Hardmaxx decision

[infraorbitalwanter]

I have around 40k saved up should I get chin and jaw implants or bimax? I think bimax could help with my eyebags by bringing upper jaw foward.

 

[Assymetry]

Bimax won’t do shit about your eyebags. You need saddled infras + fat grafting.

 

[tweaqo]

Mouthpill once again

@lurking truecel

 

[infraorbitalwanter]

Mouthpill once again

@lurking truecel

I keep getting denied marpe bro

 

[tweaqo]

I keep getting denied marpe bro

That will not widen your mouth width.

 

[infraorbitalwanter]

That will not widen your mouth width.

That will not widen your mouth width.

Makes no sense

 

[vermicel]

Makes no sense

MARPE will widen your palate, but not your mouth (= your commissure and vermilion).

The picture in the OP has been taken too close to your face and therefore gives us a distorted sense of reality. Try to take another one with the camera set further away (5-7 feet / 1,50-2,00m). Provide a complementary side profile for a more reliable assessment.
Nonetheless, based on that picture, if I had to guess, I would say that you're downgrown, with a recessed mandible and chin, and your maxilla is probably poorly projected as well (tilted forward and upward ?). Your infraorbital bone seems recessed too, and the supraorbital seems to droop ; these flaws fuck up your eye region, with eyebags (poor infra support), and negatively tilted eyes & eyebrows.
You would need extensive surgeries for the lower third (bimax + genio, maybe implants) and the eye region (infraorbital implants, maybe supraorbital implants or a temporal brow lift for the right eye, canthoplasty, maybe fat grafting).

How is your dental occlusion ? Do you have a CT scan of your face ?

 

[BimaxPLZ]

you have really small jaw, work on that first

 

[lurking truecel]

Mouthpill once again

@lurking truecel

Yea 1 to 1 is brutal

 

[tweaqo]

Makes no sense

Yes it does, your palate will widen, but your mouth (lips) will not.

 

[AustrianMogger]

I have around 40k saved up should I get chin and jaw implants or bimax? I think bimax could help with my eyebags by bringing upper jaw foward.

Get commisuroplasty with me bro

 

[vermicel]

You would need extensive surgeries for the lower third (bimax + genio, maybe implants) and the eye region (infraorbital implants, maybe supraorbital implants or a temporal brow lift for the right eye, canthoplasty, maybe fat grafting).

Just for fun, keeping in mind that the picture most likely distorts your face, here's a morph illustrating roughly what these surgeries could achieve :

The second picture shows approximately the effects of a bimax + genioplasty, infraorbital implants, canthoplasty, brow lift for the right eye, and periorbital fat grafting.

The third picture shows all the above + a wraparound jaw implant.

As noticed by others, you have a narrow mouth (the picture may exaggerate that). So, when it comes to overall facial harmony, it doesn't really make sense to give you a wide chin and a wide jaw (bigonial width), as it will accentuate the narrowness of your mouth. Based on that perspective, I think the second picture could be a more reasonable goal than the third.

 

[Grievous]

Just for fun, keeping in mind that the picture most likely distorts your face, here's a morph illustrating roughly what these surgeries could achieve :

View attachment 4416291

The second picture shows approximately the effects of a bimax + genioplasty, infraorbital implants, canthoplasty, brow lift for the right eye, and periorbital fat grafting.

The third picture shows all the above + a wraparound jaw implant.

As noticed by others, you have a narrow mouth (the picture may exaggerate that). So, when it comes to overall facial harmony, it doesn't really make sense to give you a wide chin and a wide jaw (bigonial width), as it will accentuate the narrowness of your mouth. Based on that perspective, I think the second picture could be a more reasonable and better-looking goal than the third.

gawd damn this dudes put in alot of effort to help
Nigga sjould ne thanking him

Needs to work on his features too tho not js surgery

 

[infraorbitalwanter]

Just for fun, keeping in mind that the picture most likely distorts your face, here's a morph illustrating roughly what these surgeries could achieve :

View attachment 4416291

The second picture shows approximately the effects of a bimax + genioplasty, infraorbital implants, canthoplasty, brow lift for the right eye, and periorbital fat grafting.

The third picture shows all the above + a wraparound jaw implant.

As noticed by others, you have a narrow mouth (the picture may exaggerate that). So, when it comes to overall facial harmony, it doesn't really make sense to give you a wide chin and a wide jaw (bigonial width), as it will accentuate the narrowness of your mouth. Based on that perspective, I think the second picture could be a more reasonable goal

MARPE will widen your palate, but not your mouth (= your commissure and vermilion).

The picture in the OP has been taken too close to your face and therefore gives us a distorted sense of reality. Try to take another one with the camera set further away (5-7 feet / 1,50-2,00m). Provide a complementary side profile for a more reliable assessment.
Nonetheless, based on that picture, if I had to guess, I would say that you're downgrown, with a recessed mandible and chin, and your maxilla is probably poorly projected as well (tilted forward and upward ?). Your infraorbital bone seems recessed too, and the supraorbital seems to droop ; these flaws fuck up your eye region, with eyebags (poor infra support), and negatively tilted eyes & eyebrows.
You would need extensive surgeries for the lower third (bimax + genio, maybe implants) and the eye region (infraorbital implants, maybe supraorbital implants or a temporal brow lift for the right eye, canthoplasty, maybe fat grafting).

How is your dental occlusion ? Do you have a CT scan of your face ?

I have very bad occlusion I get Invisalign at end of the month. You have any surgeon recommendations?

 

[vermicel]

I have very bad occlusion I get Invisalign at end of the month. You have any surgeon recommendations?

You should discuss your surgical plan with your orthodontist. Not only might he/she be able to recommend a maxillofacial surgeon specialized in orthognathics ( -> bimax), but, ideally, you would want them to work together so the whole process will be planned in an optimal fashion, i.e. the orthognathic surgeon may prefer your teeth/occlusion to be a certain way for surgery, and will reduce as much as possible the need for braces before and after the bimax.

For the eye region, you'll have to consult an ophtalmologist or a maxfac surgeon specialized in occuloplastics. Ideally, that doctor would be able to carry every procedure at once, including the temporal brow lift for the right eye (assuming it will be necessary for an optimal result).

Depending on your location and choices, a ~40K budget (be it euros or USD) will be way enough to cover everything. ~25-30K could even do it. Much less if you're European and get a State-sponsored bimax.