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It would be retarded for me to even consider transmaxx when my issue is just a lack of balls and consistent personal development. But if I was a pretty looking petite white/azn boi Idk what I’d do bros
 
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@St.TikTokcel have you considered this
 
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I did
I dress like a girl when I jerk off so I can feel like I’m having sex Black mirror type shit Inf
 
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Transmaxxing doesn't make sense, even among lesbians it's rare for anyone to like mtf.
The only kind of people who enjoy mtf are below average men with questionable fetishes.
 
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Transmaxxing doesn't make sense, even among lesbians it's rare for anyone to like mtf.
The only kind of people who enjoy mtf are below average men with questionable fetishes.
That’s still a ‘gain’ for truecels
 
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That’s still a ‘gain’ for truecels
Assuming you're straight, it's not a win,And most gays would have sex with a truecel anyway, there's no point.
Paying for prostitutes is a much more dignified way out
 
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Assuming you're straight, it's not a win,And most gays would have sex with a truecel anyway, there's no point.
Paying for prostitutes is a much more dignified way out
There’s more sexual pleasure due to transmaxx. And paying for a disgusted foid isn’t any better
 
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Everytime I post here people say I look foidlike due to klinefelters but I'm too busy goonmaxing
 
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Everytime I post here people say I look foidlike due to klinefelters but I'm too busy goonmaxing
Stay masculine and marry 4 wives, it’s just more satisfying when twinks act like (and are) real men
 
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Stay masculine and marry 4 wives, it’s just more satisfying when twinks act like real men
Implying I'm attracted to women
 
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Transmaxxed incel = still incel
 
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Transmaxxing doesn't make sense, even among lesbians it's rare for anyone to like mtf.
The only kind of people who enjoy mtf are below average men with questionable fetishes.
Some women date mtf trannies
 
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I thought about this ages ago
A way out of manletism
 
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Transmaxxing only works for guys with thin skeletal structure, after female fat distribution gains from estrogen they likely become desirable
 
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Transmaxxing doesn't make sense, even among lesbians it's rare for anyone to like mtf.
The only kind of people who enjoy mtf are below average men with questionable fetishes.
You will lose your sex drive so you won't care
 
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Assuming you're straight, it's not a win,And most gays would have sex with a truecel anyway, there's no point.
Paying for prostitutes is a much more dignified way out
theres this thing called pseudobisexuality, and its better than nothing for truecels
 
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I’d imagine sexuality would change once you experience being a vulnerable little girl being played with by a man and the sheer deluge of hormones that come with it. Too bad I have no choice but to try and become that man instead
It's not gonna make you develop sexual attraction to men, rather meta attraction from identity reaffirmation
 
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Wtf never do this
 
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No seriously you should kill yourself before transmaxxong I can't believe this what ppl have to resort to
I was meming when I encouraged this but In all seriousness this is some sick shit
 
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cope . happens to me

Meta attraction, pseudobisexuality
The thought of a boyfriend reaffirmed you female identity which aroused you
 
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I'd rather go ER than become trans
 
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As someone who used to consider a path like this let me lay out a few reasons why this isn't going to work the way you think it is. Note that write this post with incels who think transmaxxing is going to save them from inceldom in mind. Not people dealing with legitimate gender dysphoria.

What are some reasons people consider transmaxxing:

- for a chance to feel less ugly about themselves
- for a chance at social validations
- for a chance at sexual validation
- escaping the standards given to men

Now to pick apart these

You're probably not going to be pretty

Too many people are sold this false idea that they're going to become pretty as a girl. Maybe they've seen too many postings of passing pretty transwomen or transmaxxers. Maybe you have a recessed facial structure and think that it will pass as a girl. Whilst this may be the case for some there's a very big chance that it isn't the case for you.

Trans spic

Trans brazil

Trans korean


These are the trans equivalents of male chads. Do you think you'll become a chad the moment you wear some fashionable clothes and get yourself a tiktok hairstyle? No you won't. Most transwomen who pass are usually: Asian, Latam or Black. This is because the first two groups have much less sexual dimorphism between the two sexes (they're way more neotenous), and black women usually already look like guys. These three races coincidentally rarely frequent this site. There's a good chance you don't belong to them. You're probably white, curry or MENA. Whilst passing trans women exist in all races your chances of passing will drop greatly as these races. You'll need a certain amount of neotony to be able to pass which there's a good chance you don't have. I reiterate, those who both pass and look good are the equivalent of male chads, don't think just because they look good that you will too.

There's a good chance you'll look like this:

Trans timelines


Take note of something? None of these people have any ounce of dimorphism, yet none of them pass in the slightest. The best looking in the bottom right at best looks like a femboy. Even if you're boneless there's still a good chance your skull has enough sexual dimorphism to ensure you'll never pass. And often the ones that almost look like they pass is usually because they're heavily frauding their pics with angles, filters, and makeup. There's a good chance they can be clocked in motion with ease.

There's a reason why a long midface is one of the worst failos there is. It is very hard to reduce bone mass effectively, there's only so much you can shave down and as far as modern surgery goes there is no way to genuinely shorten your midface, you can only augment other areas to offset it's appearance. In short you're probably not obtaining neoteny no matter what you do. If you could we'd see a lot more passing trans women.

Social and sexual validation

From what, from whom? Do you want to know what it's like to get hit on by curries or what? If you're decent enough looking you're just going to become a plaything for other men, if you're ugly then you're only going to be a curry's dumpster dive loot. If you're really that starved for sexual validation that you'll resort to seeking it from guys then just pretend to be gay, they'll still fuck you even if you're subhuman and treat you with affection as they would any other gay guy. If you're going to fake being trans just to find a sex life just take the easier step and fake being gay, what's the difference. The only difference is that you'll run the possibility of attracting some straight guys with a fetish because let me iterate this, there's a really good chance that cis women want nothing to do with you. I rarely know trans women who have good social ties with cis women. Your social life is going to be flipped on it's head at maximum force. Your family will probably abandon you, relatives won't see you the same. Trans people are pretty tightknit so there's that but I'm not writing this for trans people. I'm writing this for incels who think this is a way of ascending. You'd have to start living a lie to the only community that'll take you under it's wing.

Male social standards

Not gonna lie these kinda suck. All I'd have to ask is are you sure you'd rather become someone's plaything and an overal societal reject at large just to escape these.




Schizo rambler over just to give a quick reality slap to anything considering this. I can't stop you but these are things to consider. It's too easy to imagine and ponder the best outcome that will probably never happen.
 
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As someone who used to consider a path like this let me lay out a few reasons why this isn't going to work the way you think it is. Note that write this post with incels who think transmaxxing is going to save them from inceldom in mind. Not people dealing with legitimate gender dysphoria.

What are some reasons people consider transmaxxing:

- for a chance to feel less ugly about themselves
- for a chance at social validations
- for a chance at sexual validation
- escaping the standards given to men

Now to pick apart these

You're probably not going to be pretty

Too many people are sold this false idea that they're going to become pretty as a girl. Maybe they've seen too many postings of passing pretty transwomen or transmaxxers. Maybe you have a recessed facial structure and think that it will pass as a girl. Whilst this may be the case for some there's a very big chance that it isn't the case for you.

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These are the trans equivalents of male chads. Do you think you'll become a chad the moment you wear some fashionable clothes and get yourself a tiktok hairstyle? No you won't. Most transwomen who pass are usually: Asian, Latam or Black. This is because the first two groups have much less sexual dimorphism between the two sexes (they're way more neotenous), and black women usually already look like guys. These three races coincidentally rarely frequent this site. There's a good chance you don't belong to them. You're probably white, curry or MENA. Whilst passing trans women exist in all races your chances of passing will drop greatly as these races. You'll need a certain amount of neotony to be able to pass which there's a good chance you don't have. I reiterate, those who both pass and look good are the equivalent of male chads, don't think just because they look good that you will too.

There's a good chance you'll look like this:

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Take note of something? None of these people have any ounce of dimorphism, yet none of them pass in the slightest. The best looking in the bottom right at best looks like a femboy. Even if you're boneless there's still a good chance your skull has enough sexual dimorphism to ensure you'll never pass. And often the ones that almost look like they pass is usually because they're heavily frauding their pics with angles, filters, and makeup. There's a good chance they can be clocked in motion with ease.

There's a reason why a long midface is one of the worst failos there is. It is very hard to reduce bone mass effectively, there's only so much you can shave down and as far as modern surgery goes there is no way to genuinely shorten your midface, you can only augment other areas to offset it's appearance. In short you're probably not obtaining neoteny no matter what you do. If you could we'd see a lot more passing trans women.

Social and sexual validation

From what, from whom? Do you want to know what it's like to get hit on by curries or what? If you're decent enough looking you're just going to become a plaything for other men, if you're ugly then you're only going to be a curry's dumpster dive loot. If you're really that starved for sexual validation that you'll resort to seeking it from guys then just pretend to be gay, they'll still fuck you even if you're subhuman and treat you with affection as they would any other gay guy. If you're going to fake being trans just to find a sex life just take the easier step and fake being gay, what's the difference. The only difference is that you'll run the possibility of attracting some straight guys with a fetish because let me iterate this, there's a really good chance that cis women want nothing to do with you. I rarely know trans women who have good social ties with cis women. Your social life is going to be flipped on it's head at maximum force. Your family will probably abandon you, relatives won't see you the same. Trans people are pretty tightknit so there's that but I'm not writing this for trans people. I'm writing this for incels who think this is a way of ascending. You'd have to start living a lie to the only community that'll take you under it's wing.

Male social standards

Not gonna lie these kinda suck. All I'd have to ask is are you sure you'd rather become someone's plaything and an overal societal reject at large just to escape these.




Schizo rambler over just to give a quick reality slap to anything considering this. I can't stop you but these are things to consider. It's too easy to imagine and ponder the best outcome that will probably never happen.

Is this a copypaste or did u really write a post this long and detailed?

For op: go er.
 
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Can't say that I have. I've never felt particularly male nor female and my gender presentation merely reflects how I feel authentically about myself. I'd say most cis people are more transmaxxing than I am since they conform to societal norms and expectations in regards to what's demanded of carriers of their birth-assigned sex.
 
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Is this a copypaste or did u really write a post this long and detailed?

For op: go er.
Not a copy pasta, I went schizo and wrote it. Now to return to my cell in the Mumbai insane asylum.
 
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Not a copy pasta, I went schizo and wrote it. Now to return to my cell in the Mumbai insane asylum.

Please copy and paste it into a new thread! You deserve to get more attention and rep for your hard work.
 
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Please copy and paste it into a new thread! You deserve to get more attention and rep for your hard work.
Thanks bhai. But I rushed that out in a couple minutes. I'd fix it up more if I gave it it's own thread.
 
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It doesn't work, when God designed men he wanted us to suffer, and he made damn sure to find solutions to any attempt for men to try to escape the suffering
 
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As someone who used to consider a path like this let me lay out a few reasons why this isn't going to work the way you think it is. Note that write this post with incels who think transmaxxing is going to save them from inceldom in mind. Not people dealing with legitimate gender dysphoria.

What are some reasons people consider transmaxxing:

- for a chance to feel less ugly about themselves
- for a chance at social validations
- for a chance at sexual validation
- escaping the standards given to men

Now to pick apart these

You're probably not going to be pretty

Too many people are sold this false idea that they're going to become pretty as a girl. Maybe they've seen too many postings of passing pretty transwomen or transmaxxers. Maybe you have a recessed facial structure and think that it will pass as a girl. Whilst this may be the case for some there's a very big chance that it isn't the case for you.

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These are the trans equivalents of male chads. Do you think you'll become a chad the moment you wear some fashionable clothes and get yourself a tiktok hairstyle? No you won't. Most transwomen who pass are usually: Asian, Latam or Black. This is because the first two groups have much less sexual dimorphism between the two sexes (they're way more neotenous), and black women usually already look like guys. These three races coincidentally rarely frequent this site. There's a good chance you don't belong to them. You're probably white, curry or MENA. Whilst passing trans women exist in all races your chances of passing will drop greatly as these races. You'll need a certain amount of neotony to be able to pass which there's a good chance you don't have. I reiterate, those who both pass and look good are the equivalent of male chads, don't think just because they look good that you will too.

There's a good chance you'll look like this:

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Take note of something? None of these people have any ounce of dimorphism, yet none of them pass in the slightest. The best looking in the bottom right at best looks like a femboy. Even if you're boneless there's still a good chance your skull has enough sexual dimorphism to ensure you'll never pass. And often the ones that almost look like they pass is usually because they're heavily frauding their pics with angles, filters, and makeup. There's a good chance they can be clocked in motion with ease.

There's a reason why a long midface is one of the worst failos there is. It is very hard to reduce bone mass effectively, there's only so much you can shave down and as far as modern surgery goes there is no way to genuinely shorten your midface, you can only augment other areas to offset it's appearance. In short you're probably not obtaining neoteny no matter what you do. If you could we'd see a lot more passing trans women.

Social and sexual validation

From what, from whom? Do you want to know what it's like to get hit on by curries or what? If you're decent enough looking you're just going to become a plaything for other men, if you're ugly then you're only going to be a curry's dumpster dive loot. If you're really that starved for sexual validation that you'll resort to seeking it from guys then just pretend to be gay, they'll still fuck you even if you're subhuman and treat you with affection as they would any other gay guy. If you're going to fake being trans just to find a sex life just take the easier step and fake being gay, what's the difference. The only difference is that you'll run the possibility of attracting some straight guys with a fetish because let me iterate this, there's a really good chance that cis women want nothing to do with you. I rarely know trans women who have good social ties with cis women. Your social life is going to be flipped on it's head at maximum force. Your family will probably abandon you, relatives won't see you the same. Trans people are pretty tightknit so there's that but I'm not writing this for trans people. I'm writing this for incels who think this is a way of ascending. You'd have to start living a lie to the only community that'll take you under it's wing.

Male social standards

Not gonna lie these kinda suck. All I'd have to ask is are you sure you'd rather become someone's plaything and an overal societal reject at large just to escape these.




Schizo rambler over just to give a quick reality slap to anything considering this. I can't stop you but these are things to consider. It's too easy to imagine and ponder the best outcome that will probably never happen.
But being a cute girl wearing cute clothes and doing cute girly stuff is hot by itself tho
 
It doesn't work, when God designed men he wanted us to suffer, and he made damn sure to find solutions to any attempt for men to try to escape the suffering
Indeed, that is why we get 72 virgins in heaven, we are built to suffer here first brutally and mercilessly
 
But being a cute girl wearing cute clothes and doing cute girly stuff is hot by itself tho
You'd be throwing away a lot just to feel like a cute gal. Really good chance you won't be much of a "cute" gal either.
 
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What are some reasons people consider transmaxxing:

- for a chance to feel less ugly about themselves
- for a chance at social validations
- for a chance at sexual validation
- escaping the standards given to men

Now to pick apart these

Not just validation. Social life advantages. Socialization abundance. You don’t have to work hard to obtain friendships (even getting true acquaintances is challenging as a sub-5 male). You don’t have to build your social value just to go to parties. Women can’t be lonely!

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The video above shows how hard it is for men and, comparatively, how much easier women have it such that they can’t relate to men’s loneliness.

The video below shows you what you can do if you’re a woman. You wanna party on a yacht? You can have it. The social world is your oyster. You can pretty much manifest any social experience that you desire.





Most transwomen who pass are usually: Asian, Latam or Black. This is because the first two groups have much less sexual dimorphism between the two sexes (they're way more neotenous), and black women usually already look like guys.

Asians are more neotenous and have less sexual dimorphism.

Latinos, not really. They have the same amount of sexual dimorphism as Caucasians from what I’ve seen.

I’m surprised you say it’s easier for Black trans women to pass. I think it’s more difficult because Sub-Saharan Africans have more sexual dimorphism. It’s harder for you to pass if you look like a Tyrone than if you look like a K-Pop guy.

Black women don’t look like guys. You think Black trans women have an easier time passing because your perception of Black women in general is warped. It’s hard for them to pass because of how feminine Black women look and how masculine Black men are.



Trans timelines


Take note of something? None of these people have any ounce of dimorphism, yet none of them pass in the slightest. The best looking in the bottom right at best looks like a femboy.

Your warped perception strikes again. The one at the top left is the best looking. She passes. I’m not sure how you think the bottom-right one looks better than her.

You know why the rest don’t pass? Dimorphism. How can you say “none of these people have any ounce of dimorphism”? Their male dimorphic features are the reason why they don’t pass.
  • Top right has a masculine jaw because of the tall chin. She’d completely pass if only her chin were shorter.
  • Middle left doesn’t pass because of her facial hair shadow and her Norwooded hairline. Without them, she’d pass.
  • Middle right doesn’t pass because of her facial hair shadow, her masc brow ridge, and her tall chin. Without them, she’d pass.
  • Can’t be arsed to continue. Similar issues in the bottom row.


If you're really that starved for sexual validation that you'll resort to seeking it from guys then just pretend to be gay, they'll still fuck you even if you're subhuman and treat you with affection as they would any other gay guy.

Getting with men as a woman versus as a gay man are worlds apart:
  • The woman feels more pleasure. Female hormones intensify the experience; male hormones blunt the feelings.
  • The gay man has a higher risk of STDs.
  • Anal comes with a higher risk of infection and injury. Very dangerous if you have hemorrhoids, anal fissures, or other problems.
  • The gay man doesn’t get the luxury of feeling hot and desirable, getting approached by multiple men on the daily. The gay man must actively seek out other gay men, while the woman gets pursued (gets way more validation than the gay man).
If you gaymax, you won’t get to experience:
  • being in a club and making flirtatious eye contact towards Chad and he walks over to you and buys you drinks
  • sitting at a bar, lifting up your skirt for a moment, and Chad follows you to the bathroom
  • walking down the street, getting catcalled and approached nonstop, and calling the cops on the harassers to boost your ego and feel empowered in the gynocentric soyciety
  • being able to get a 6-figure job in STEM simply by being a woman, and it even helps to not pass because SoyTech JewCorp wants more LGBT representation
  • https://looksmax.org/threads/female-vs-male-privilege.203596


 
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You guys are actually considering trannymaxing? I thought it was just a joke.
I take the piss out on this a lot but masculinity actually is on the inside. "Looking like a man" is just a beauty contest. just appearances.
 
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Not just validation. Social life advantages. Socialization abundance. You don’t have to work hard to obtain friendships (even getting true acquaintances is challenging as a sub-5 male). You don’t have to build your social value just to go to parties. Women can’t be lonely!

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The video above shows how hard it is for men and, comparatively, how much easier women have it such that they can’t relate to men’s loneliness.

The video below shows you what you can do if you’re a woman. You wanna party on a yacht? You can have it. The social world is your oyster. You can pretty much manifest any social experience that you desire.


This mostly applies if you're a cis women. Again you're being sold a false goal of womenhood that you'll probably never reach. That is the life of someone who was either born a woman or the select few (be it transwomen or transmaxxers) who pass as women. You're probably going to live the life of a hun (non passing trans woman). Most huns live isolating lives casted to the outskirts where their only friends are other fellow huns and members of the LGBTQ+ community. Most cishet women won't want anything to do with you. Lots of men will show outward contempt for you. The only cis women who might take you in are probably bi. Your only sexual options will mostly boil down to straight guys who wanna experiment, bi guys, or other huns.





Asians are more neotenous and have less sexual dimorphism.
Yes
Latinos, not really. They have the same amount of sexual dimorphism as Caucasians from what I’ve seen.
Latinos are a genetic mixture of natives who are mongoloid (like East Asians) and Europeans (who are Caucasoid). A lot won't pass well, but a decent amount due and it's usually due to this neotenous genetic admixture. It's also why they're visually different from Arabs (who are of Caucasoid and Negroid admixture) and curries (who are of Caucasoid or Dravidian descent or admixture).
I’m surprised you say it’s easier for Black trans women to pass. I think it’s more difficult because Sub-Saharan Africans have more sexual dimorphism. It’s harder for you to pass if you look like a Tyrone than if you look like a K-Pop guy.

Black women don’t look like guys. You think Black trans women have an easier time passing because your perception of Black women in general is warped. It’s hard for them to pass because of how feminine Black women are.
>It's hard for them to pass because of how feminine black women are

Cagefuel.

I can't really think of strong feminine features that black women possess other than maybe being curvy? People already dunk on black women for being too masculine. The biological bar for femininity isn't as far to reach as it is for other races of women.
Your warped perception strikes again. The one at the top left is the best looking. She passes. I’m not sure how you think the bottom-right one looks better than her.
She doesn't pass. Bottom right has softer features.
You know why the rest don’t pass? Dimorphism. How can you say “none of these people have any ounce of dimorphism”? Their male dimorphic features are the reason why they don’t pass.
  • Top right has a masculine jaw because of the tall chin. She’d completely pass if only her chin were shorter.
  • Middle left doesn’t pass because of her facial hair shadow and her Norwooded hairline. Without them, she’d pass.
  • Middle right doesn’t pass because of her facial hair shadow, her masc brow ridge, and her tall chin. Without them, she’d pass.
  • Can’t be arsed to continue. Similar issues in the bottom row.
Yeah you proved my point, that was the whole point of that section. Despite looking like blobs with 0 dimorphism when compared to good looking men. They're usually still way too dimorphic to pass as women. Most guys will fall underneath this level of dimorphism. Guys who think they can escape their recession with transmaxxing usually still overlook the fact they still have too much dimorphism to pass.



Getting with men as a woman versus as a gay man are worlds apart:
  • The woman feels more pleasure. Female hormones intensify the experience; male hormones blunt the feelings.
  • The gay man has a higher risk of STDs.
  • Anal comes with a higher risk of infection and injury. Very dangerous if you have hemorrhoids, anal fissures, or other problems.
  • The gay man doesn’t get the luxury of feeling hot and desirable, getting approached by multiple men on the daily. The gay man must actively seek out other gay men, while the woman gets pursued (gets way more validation than the gay man).
If you gaymax, you won’t get to experience:
  • being in a club and making flirtatious eye contact towards Chad and he walks over to you and buys you drinks
  • sitting at a bar, lifting up your skirt for a moment, and Chad follows you to the bathroom
  • walking down the street, getting catcalled and approached nonstop, and calling the cops on the harassers to boost your ego and feel empowered in the gynocentric soyciety
  • being able to get a 6-figure job in STEM simply by being a woman, and it even helps to not pass because SoyTech JewCorp wants more LGBT representation
  • https://looksmax.org/threads/female-vs-male-privilege.203596


I can't argue with this if you legit want to experience being hit on by several guys. JFL if you legit want to be stalked and catcalled.


Only pros here are the lower risk of STD's, intensity of sexual pleasure if you really care about that, and being hired by Google to do janny work.


Overally fantasising about transmaxxing is the male equivalent of women thinking about how much life would be easier as a guy. They're not thinking about the life of a sub-5, they're thinking about the life of a chad. Forget being good looking (since you don't need to be that GL as a woman for easy validation), people who ponder transmaxxing are usually thinking about the life of someone who passes, someone who's small, cute, and gets to wear kawaii outfits. They're not thinking about the average life of a hun.
 
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This mostly applies if you're a cis women. Again you're being sold a false goal of womenhood that you'll probably never reach. That is the life of someone who was either born a woman or the select few (be it transwomen or transmaxxers) who pass as women. You're probably going to live the life of a hun (non passing trans woman). Most huns live isolating lives casted to the outskirts where their only friends are other fellow huns and members of the LGBTQ+ community. Most cishet women won't want anything to do with you. Lots of men will show outward contempt for you. The only cis women who might take you in are probably bi. Your only sexual options will mostly boil down to straight guys who wanna experiment, bi guys, or other huns.

I agree with this 100%. But I think that the reward from being a passing woman is so great that it’s worth a shot even if you have a 5% chance of passing.



Latinos are a genetic mixture of natives who are mongoloid (like East Asians) and Europeans (who are Caucasoid). A lot won't pass well, but a decent amount due and it's usually due to this neotenous genetic admixture. It's also why they're visually different from Arabs (who are of Caucasoid and Negroid admixture) and curries (who are of Caucasoid or Dravidian descent or admixture).

I don’t agree that all Mongoloids are neotenous like Asians are. Although Native Americans are considered Mongoloids, they look very different from East Asian Mongoloids. I think that Native Americans are way more dimorphic than East Asians. Like how Polynesians (mostly Mongoloid) are also way more dimorphic than East Asians. Different kinds of Mongoloids don’t all have equal dimorphism levels. East Asian is the only subtype of Mongoloid that has remarkably low dimorphism.



People already dunk on black women for being too masculine.

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The biological bar for femininity isn't as far to reach as it is for other races of women.

Low IQ. The bar for what’s perceived as feminine has nothing to do with the race of the woman but rather has to do with the taste of the man. You admitted that most Black women, to you, do not meet your bar for femininity, which is why you perceive them to “look like guys”.

Even if you’re right—let’s grant for the sake of argument that Black women have a lower biological bar of femininity to reach—you have to factor in that the starting point of being a Black male is more masculine.

The difficulty of passing is not determined just by the level of femininity to reach; it’s determined by the difference between the starting point (how masculine you are to begin with) and the destination (the “biological bar for femininity”).

Black trans women have harder times passing because Black males are more masculine, which makes them have longer distances to cover in terms of physically transitioning.



She doesn't pass. Bottom right has softer features.

She passes. Bottom right looks like a boy.

Seems like your perception of femininity is very centered around neoteny and soft features. Mine isn’t, and I don’t think most men’s tastes in women focus that heavily on soft features and neoteny.

I find it shocking how many men in this forum have such strong preferences for neoteny that they’re obsessed with JBs and find women who look like the one below are “too masculine”:

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muh soft features. JFL if you think right fogs left:
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Yeah you proved my point, that was the whole point of that section. Despite looking like blobs with 0 dimorphism when compared to good looking men.

But that’s absurd. They have average dimorphism. Do you really think average guys look like blobs with 0 dimorphism when compared to Chads?



I can't argue with this if you legit want to experience being hit on by several guys. JFL if you legit want to be stalked and catcalled.

I was going along with your point about gaymaxing. Of course most incels don’t want to gaymax. But if one does—if you’re so desperate that you’d gaymax, why wouldn’t you want to gaymax in the most advantageous way?

Ego is a major component of human happiness. Ain’t no better way to have your ego boosted to the Moon than to live as a woman.



Only pros here are the lower risk of STD's
yeah bro who cares about dying from AIDS

intensity of sexual pleasure if you really care about that
yeah I wonder who da fuq gives a fuq about sexual pleasure. must be really unimportant to incels. not a big deal that women’s orgasms last longer and are full-body, right?

and being hired by Google to do janny work
and make 200K per year
 
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I agree with this 100%. But I think that the reward from being a passing woman is so great that it’s worth a shot even if you have a 5% chance of passing.
It's probably a good life to live if you're part of the 5%, if you're good looking, passing, surrounded by accepting people. Though there's a good chance most of these won't line up and I think it's important for people who consider this to take everything into consideration.
I don’t agree that all Mongoloids are neotenous like Asians are. Although Native Americans are considered Mongoloids, they look very different from East Asian Mongoloids. I think that Native Americans are way more dimorphic than East Asians. Like how Polynesians (mostly Mongoloid) are also way more dimorphic than East Asians. Different kinds of Mongoloids don’t all have equal dimorphism levels. East Asian is the only subtype of Mongoloid that has remarkably low dimorphism.
Whilst they're not as neotenous as East Asians they'll usually have a bit more neoteny or at least less differences in sexual dimorphism than most men and women of entirely or heavily Caucasian admixture. East Asians will pass the easiest, Latinos are a mixed bag (the reasons I listed earlier are the reason why they're a mixed bag), Caucasians tend to struggle the most to pass due to having some of the largest differences in sexual dimorphism between men and women.
only incel forum dwellers and redpill ChudJaks

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Low IQ. The bar for what’s perceived as feminine has nothing to do with the race of the woman but rather has to do with the taste of the man. You admitted that most Black women, to you, do not meet your bar for femininity, which is why you perceive them to “look like guys”.

Even if you’re right—let’s grant for the sake of argument that Black women have a lower biological bar of femininity to reach—you have to factor in that the starting point of being a Black male is more masculine.

The difficulty of passing is not determined just by the level of femininity to reach; it’s determined by the difference between the starting point (how masculine you are to begin with) and the destination (the “biological bar for femininity”).

Black trans women have harder times passing because Black males are more masculine, which makes them have longer distances to cover in terms of physically transitioning.
This would only be true if levels of sexual dimorphism where just as high as they were for say Caucasians. Sexual dimorphism according to an online definition is listed as follows: distinct difference in size or appearance between the sexes of an animal in addition to difference between the sexual organs themselves.

Caucasians from what recall have the highest levels of sexual dimorphism, meaning the gap between Caucasian man and woman is the largest than it is amongst any other race. Meaning that difference between a caucasian man and a caucasian woman is huge when compared to the sexual dimorphism between other races. For Asians and blacks these differences aren't nearly as distinct. Asian women are usually quite neotenous, due to lower levels of dimorphism that'll leave the average asian man a bit more neotenous. Blacks are the opposite side of the coin of this. The bridge of sexual dimorphism to cross for asians and blacks is a lot shorter than it is for caucasians, for which the men are much larger built than the average caucasian woman.

Varying levels of sexual dimorphism isn't just present in humans either. You can also observe this phenomena amongst animals with some animals almost being indistinguishable amongst the two sexes whilst some animals are different as night and day if you compare the two.

She passes. Bottom right looks like a boy.
Neither pass (for the first her high hairline is the smoking gun), but the bottom right would've had the benefit of running femboy game.
Seems like your perception of femininity is very centered around neoteny and soft features. Mine isn’t, and I don’t think most men’s tastes in women focus that heavily on soft features and neoteny.

I find it shocking how many men in this forum have such strong preferences for neoteny that they’re obsessed with JBs and find women who look like the one below are “too masculine”:

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I don't put neoteny on a pedestal. I prefer women with more robust looks. But, robust woman =/= non-passing trans.
muh soft features. JFL if you think right fogs left:
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She doesn't fog because she doesn't pass.
But that’s absurd. They have average dimorphism. Do you really think average guys look like blobs with 0 dimorphism when compared to Chads?
Yeah. Most guys aren't that defined when paired with chad. Mogs are brutal.
I was going along with your point about gaymaxing. Of course most incels don’t want to gaymax. But if one does—if you’re so desperate that you’d gaymax, why wouldn’t you want to gaymax in the most advantageous way?

Ego is a major component of human happiness. Ain’t no better way to have your ego boosted to the Moon than to live as a woman.
One pro of gaymaxxing is that you can remain cishet passing in a society. You run the risk of becoming a noticeable hun to all around you if you transition and don't quite pass. You're shooting for the 5% vs. get guaranteed validation as a guy from other men and still live the other half your life normally. As a fake hun you're entire life becomes your transmaxxing journey. There's no escape from it.
yeah bro who cares about dying from AIDS
I listed it as a pro.
yeah I wonder who da fuq gives a fuq about sexual pleasure. must be really unimportant to incels. not a big deal that women’s orgasms last longer and are full-body, right?
Me, I'm asexual.
and make 200K per year
Again I listed these as pros so what's your point..
 
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As someone who used to consider a path like this let me lay out a few reasons why this isn't going to work the way you think it is. Note that write this post with incels who think transmaxxing is going to save them from inceldom in mind. Not people dealing with legitimate gender dysphoria.

What are some reasons people consider transmaxxing:

- for a chance to feel less ugly about themselves
- for a chance at social validations
- for a chance at sexual validation
- escaping the standards given to men

Now to pick apart these

You're probably not going to be pretty

Too many people are sold this false idea that they're going to become pretty as a girl. Maybe they've seen too many postings of passing pretty transwomen or transmaxxers. Maybe you have a recessed facial structure and think that it will pass as a girl. Whilst this may be the case for some there's a very big chance that it isn't the case for you.

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These are the trans equivalents of male chads. Do you think you'll become a chad the moment you wear some fashionable clothes and get yourself a tiktok hairstyle? No you won't. Most transwomen who pass are usually: Asian, Latam or Black. This is because the first two groups have much less sexual dimorphism between the two sexes (they're way more neotenous), and black women usually already look like guys. These three races coincidentally rarely frequent this site. There's a good chance you don't belong to them. You're probably white, curry or MENA. Whilst passing trans women exist in all races your chances of passing will drop greatly as these races. You'll need a certain amount of neotony to be able to pass which there's a good chance you don't have. I reiterate, those who both pass and look good are the equivalent of male chads, don't think just because they look good that you will too.

There's a good chance you'll look like this:

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Take note of something? None of these people have any ounce of dimorphism, yet none of them pass in the slightest. The best looking in the bottom right at best looks like a femboy. Even if you're boneless there's still a good chance your skull has enough sexual dimorphism to ensure you'll never pass. And often the ones that almost look like they pass is usually because they're heavily frauding their pics with angles, filters, and makeup. There's a good chance they can be clocked in motion with ease.

There's a reason why a long midface is one of the worst failos there is. It is very hard to reduce bone mass effectively, there's only so much you can shave down and as far as modern surgery goes there is no way to genuinely shorten your midface, you can only augment other areas to offset it's appearance. In short you're probably not obtaining neoteny no matter what you do. If you could we'd see a lot more passing trans women.

Social and sexual validation

From what, from whom? Do you want to know what it's like to get hit on by curries or what? If you're decent enough looking you're just going to become a plaything for other men, if you're ugly then you're only going to be a curry's dumpster dive loot. If you're really that starved for sexual validation that you'll resort to seeking it from guys then just pretend to be gay, they'll still fuck you even if you're subhuman and treat you with affection as they would any other gay guy. If you're going to fake being trans just to find a sex life just take the easier step and fake being gay, what's the difference. The only difference is that you'll run the possibility of attracting some straight guys with a fetish because let me iterate this, there's a really good chance that cis women want nothing to do with you. I rarely know trans women who have good social ties with cis women. Your social life is going to be flipped on it's head at maximum force. Your family will probably abandon you, relatives won't see you the same. Trans people are pretty tightknit so there's that but I'm not writing this for trans people. I'm writing this for incels who think this is a way of ascending. You'd have to start living a lie to the only community that'll take you under it's wing.

Male social standards

Not gonna lie these kinda suck. All I'd have to ask is are you sure you'd rather become someone's plaything and an overal societal reject at large just to escape these.




Schizo rambler over just to give a quick reality slap to anything considering this. I can't stop you but these are things to consider. It's too easy to imagine and ponder the best outcome that will probably never happen.
Actual high IQ counter and reason why trans maxxing is cope rather than just be le man
You guys are actually considering trannymaxing? I thought it was just a joke.
I take the piss out on this a lot but masculinity actually is on the inside. "Looking like a man" is just a beauty contest. just appearances.
This too. Masculinity comes from within and comes in many forms it’s not about being generic bigman
 
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