Has anyone actually ascended?

10-12 mm seems like a lot , considering the average chin height is slightly above 2 cm.
BiMax is considered more or less safe to perform. I think , that genio Isn't cope for people with short head (brachycephalic) like mine
Yeah it is a lot. But check this thread from realself:


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"A 10 to 12mm vertical increase would be common in many cases of vertical chin lengthening. The vertical bony gap created is filled with an interpositional allogeneic bone graft. If you want to aesthetically know how much vertical chin lengthening you need, open your mouth and set the chin where its length looks good to you…and then measure the distance between your front teeth. That distance will be how much your chin needs to be vertically lengthened to achieve you aesthetic goals."

I don't think you need that much vertical length and even then it won't make as much difference as you think. I guess you might improve 0.25-0.5 PSL from genio. Genio isn't cope for you as your jaws are well developed just a bit deficient vertically. It's a cope for people with legitimate recession. It still improves them just not to the extent bimax does.
 
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Gl morphs.
Front is more of a implant morph. You can achieve more width with a bimax as well but idk if that’s a good solution and I don’t think it’s easy to find a surgeon who does bimax widening anyways.

chinwise it’s easily doable with a genio.

The 3/4 seems. Like you gave yourself a better ogee and a better maxilla. That won’t happen unless you get zygo implants as well.

I mean if you wanna do a bimax it’s up to you and if you can find a surgeon. I doubt it but whatever. Also bimax has risks. Aesthetic risks as well. You don’t have to end up better looking. We also have BDD induced bimax cases who failed and now look far worse on this forum.
 
Gl morphs.
Front is more of a implant morph. You can achieve more width with a bimax as well but idk if that’s a good solution and I don’t think it’s easy to find a surgeon who does bimax widening anyways.

chinwise it’s easily doable with a genio.

The 3/4 seems. Like you gave yourself a better ogee and a better maxilla. That won’t happen unless you get zygo implants as well.

I mean if you wanna do a bimax it’s up to you and if you can find a surgeon. I doubt it but whatever. Also bimax has risks. Aesthetic risks as well. You don’t have to end up better looking. We also have BDD induced bimax cases who failed and now look far worse on this forum.
I don't get the chin part. Just checked with paint and the chin length/shape barely changed. I think he used the small nose and cheekbone filters in faceapp.
 
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Front is more of a implant morph. You can achieve more width with a bimax as well but idk if that’s a good solution and I don’t think it’s easy to find a surgeon who does bimax widening anyways.

chinwise it’s easily doable with a genio.

The 3/4 seems. Like you gave yourself a better ogee and a better maxilla. That won’t happen unless you get zygo implants as well.

I mean if you wanna do a bimax it’s up to you and if you can find a surgeon. I doubt it but whatever. Also bimax has risks. Aesthetic risks as well. You don’t have to end up better looking. We also have BDD induced bimax cases who failed and now look far worse on this forum.

I don't get the chin part. Just checked with paint and the chin length/shape barely changed. I think he used the small nose and cheekbone filters in faceapp.
Yes , only that
 
Gl morphs.
Front is more of a implant morph. You can achieve more width with a bimax as well but idk if that’s a good solution and I don’t think it’s easy to find a surgeon who does bimax widening anyways.

chinwise it’s easily doable with a genio.

The 3/4 seems. Like you gave yourself a better ogee and a better maxilla. That won’t happen unless you get zygo implants as well.

I mean if you wanna do a bimax it’s up to you and if you can find a surgeon. I doubt it but whatever. Also bimax has risks. Aesthetic risks as well. You don’t have to end up better looking. We also have BDD induced bimax cases who failed and now look far worse on this forum.

Gl morphs.
Front is more of a implant morph. You can achieve more width with a bimax as well but idk if that’s a good solution and I don’t think it’s easy to find a surgeon who does bimax widening anyways.

chinwise it’s easily doable with a genio.

The 3/4 seems. Like you gave yourself a better ogee and a better maxilla. That won’t happen unless you get zygo implants as well.

I mean if you wanna do a bimax it’s up to you and if you can find a surgeon. I doubt it but whatever. Also bimax has risks. Aesthetic risks as well. You don’t have to end up better looking. We also have BDD induced bimax cases who failed and now look far worse on this forum.
When I lose the water bloat , my cheekbones are visible , I think I should try to lose the bloat or fat underneath instead of zygos implants
 

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When I lose the water bloat , my cheekbones are visible , I think I should try to lose the bloat or fat underneath instead of zygos implants
@Pakicel do you know how to deal with water retention in face ?
 
@Pakicel do you know how to deal with water retention in face ?
IDK about that. Search this forum. There's likely a thread on this. Zygo implants are very unpredictable and I don't think you need them as you have good zygos already.
 
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First pic is me in April livin in da hood with no hair and bunch of acne. Now I live in gated community and less acne and less forehead wrinkles due to my first treatment of baby Botox. Guys tell me more things to improve on other than acne scars as I’m currently scheduled to have my $15,000 treatment begin in July
Before and afters
 
Surgery is cope
 
Yes , only that
Looked to me like you fixed a small assymetry in the chin. But maybe I was imagining things since you said you wanted a genio.

either way a bimax doesn’t get you the frontal changes you morphed. side profile wise or 3/4 wise I agree your maxilla is a bit lacking but the changes your morphed won’t be the result most likely.

Bimax isn’t a surgery that should be used to perfect someone as it can go the opposite direction as well. The soft tissue could behave in a way that you look bloated or chimpmaxxed. I personally wouldn’t take the risk if I was you. Your morph is pretty specific and rather model tier bone structure and soft tissue. Bimax simply moved your bones forward. I think that morphing yourself like that is more dreaming than reality and will leave you unsatisfied.
 
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Looked to me like you fixed a small assymetry in the chin. But maybe I was imagining things since you said you wanted a genio.

either way a bimax doesn’t get you the frontal changes you morphed. side profile wise or 3/4 wise I agree your maxilla is a bit lacking but the changes your morphed won’t be the result most likely.

Bimax isn’t a surgery that should be used to perfect someone as it can go the opposite direction as well. The soft tissue could behave in a way that you look bloated or chimpmaxxed. I personally wouldn’t take the risk if I was you. Your morph is pretty specific and rather model tier bone structure and soft tissue. Bimax simply moved your bones forward. I think that morphing yourself like that is more dreaming than reality and will leave you unsatisfied.
Yeah, agree with this one , the best I can do for now is genioplasty and softmaxxing (hairstyle , skin ,bf% , water retention), and maybe small non invasive cosmetic procedures with fillers . The results are never predictable , in the end I might end up looking better or worse than the morph , only time and looksmaxxing dedication will show
 
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I've never seen anyone ascend from Normie to Chad with a single surgery.

Was there ever anyone who did multiple surgeries and ascended from Normie to Chad? (for example BiMax then Wraparound Jaw then Infraorbitals etc.)

Has anyone ever gotten Modified Lefort 3 and what did it cost?
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uark is this LF3? Looks insane - from Subhuman to retired slayer
Normal bimax. Afaik lf3 is just a meme surgery.

I think he also got implants
 
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uark is this LF3? Looks insane - from Subhuman to retired slayer
Also I knew someone who left the looksmax Community. Went from subhuman side to Chadlite-chad side bimax only (lf1). Never seen his front tho
 
What else am I supposed to do? I have no friends or anything and it's due to me being extremely ugly in my upbringing and still only a ltn
Also I knew someone who left the looksmax Community. Went from subhuman side to Chadlite-chad side. Never seen his front tho
No one ascends from surgery’s. Chad is a chad with or without surgery
 
Also I knew someone who left the looksmax Community. Went from subhuman side to Chadlite-chad side bimax only (lf1). Never seen his front tho
How badly was his maxilla recessed? Is that the guy on reddit with blue eyes or someone else?
 
I've never seen anyone ascend from Normie to Chad with a single surgery.

Was there ever anyone who did multiple surgeries and ascended from Normie to Chad? (for example BiMax then Wraparound Jaw then Infraorbitals etc.)

Has anyone ever gotten Modified Lefort 3 and what did it cost?
Also just look into dr sailers portfolio. He ascended tons of ppl with bimax and implants. But apparently he also photoshopped the results. Dunno if that is true or not
 
How badly was his maxilla recessed?
Dunno. Was a gook. Never made it past greycel but he made a famous „just had bimax AMA“ thread. He deleted his account here and never shared his face public so you gotta take my word for it
 
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Normal bimax. Afaik lf3 is just a meme surgery.

I think he also got implants
His eye area seems to be more robust?

How did that happen or am I misguided?
 
Because the plastic surgeon I've met said it's very expensive if doing for cosmetic purposes here in Germany (he said there's no medical reasons for me to do it) , from this picture I think the maxilla is slightly behind the mandible

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I've made quick the 2 morphs in Faceapp , but somehow I have the feeling that no surgery in word will yield these results , I'd say from 4.5psl to 5/5.25

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dude you are squinting hard one this one, you look masc but don't do a squinting face like this
 
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i have ascended from ltn to chadlite

but i've done a multidude of looksmaxes, ranging from frauding (squint, suck cheek, lifts etc), softmaxxes (microblading, minoxidil, dutasteride, gymax etc) to hardmaxxes (bimax, fatgraft, buccal fat removal, steroids, HT, accutane, etc)

The entire process took couple years.

Biggest transformations (more than 2 PSL) usually come with the king of looksmaxes: bimax and leanmax.
 
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i have ascended from ltn to chadlite

but i've done a multidude of looksmax, ranging from frauding (squint, suck cheek, lifts etc) softmaxxes (microblading, minoxidil, dutasteride, gymax etc) to hardmaxxes (bimax, fatgraft, buccal fat removal, steroids, HT, accutane, etc)

The entire process took couple years.
Can you send pics?

I'm in a similar situation starting my ascension.

Also, what surgery made the most difference to you?

What advice would you give to your younger self in retrospect?
 
I've never seen anyone ascend from Normie to Chad with a single surgery.

Was there ever anyone who did multiple surgeries and ascended from Normie to Chad? (for example BiMax then Wraparound Jaw then Infraorbitals etc.)

Has anyone ever gotten Modified Lefort 3 and what did it cost?
Salludon ascended
 
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Can you send pics?

I'm in a similar situation starting my ascension.

Also, what surgery made the most difference to you?

What advice would you give to your younger self in retrospect?

Surgery would be when i did bimax + rhino + fatgraft on undereye+zygo (they've been done in just one process).

But the most ascension PSL wise from one procedure came from leanmax.
 
i have ascended from ltn to chadlite

but i've done a multidude of looksmaxes, ranging from frauding (squint, suck cheek, lifts etc), softmaxxes (microblading, minoxidil, dutasteride, gymax etc) to hardmaxxes (bimax, fatgraft, buccal fat removal, steroids, HT, accutane, etc)

The entire process took couple years.

Biggest transformations (more than 2 PSL) usually come with the king of looksmaxes: bimax and leanmax.
Yeah can you share pics in dm ? Im about to get a bimax in 4 months. Kinda need that motivation
 
I've never seen anyone ascend from Normie to Chad with a single surgery.
Yes but that’s to be expected, no? Unless you were very good looking prior and only had one feature that was fucking you up major like a horrid looking nose but that’s not the case for most people.m
Was there ever anyone who did multiple surgeries and ascended from Normie to Chad? (for example BiMax then Wraparound Jaw then Infraorbitals etc.)
I think so, I’ve seen some good before and afters though a lot of people never quite become Chad but perhaps Chadlite?
 
After 10 years of looksmaxing and gymmaxing, with near perfect nutrition, sleep, skincare, supplementation, mewing, hard chewing, NT maxing, meditation, nofap, cold approach, etc. I hooked up with a few attractive girls at parties and things, although they were crazy emotionally unstable druggies, and I didn't enjoy the sex much because there was no emotional connection, they sounded and felt fake, even during sex, and they'd say dumb shit they heard in porn like "do like that?" the whole time, or try to hook up with me within view of their male roomates that had crushes on them, or any number of crazy sociopathic shit. And this is rare to get, with tons of effort and putting myself in dangerous situations. BTW I never kissed a girl or even flirted with a girl in real life, until many years after college.

I now think it's not worth the effort, but keep looks maxing to feel better about myself when I look in the mirror. Trying to money max so I can afford new looksmaxing solutions, and anti aging, as they pass human trials and get approved. I enjoy this forum, and still learn new things from time to time.
 
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I've never seen anyone ascend from Normie to Chad with a single surgery.

Was there ever anyone who did multiple surgeries and ascended from Normie to Chad? (for example BiMax then Wraparound Jaw then Infraorbitals etc.)

Has anyone ever gotten Modified Lefort 3 and what did it cost?
I have, read my threads history.
 
I've never seen anyone ascend from Normie to Chad with a single surgery.
Well, no fucking shit. Odds are they were already Chadlite if that was the case.
I´d say there have been a sizeable portion of people that have ascended. Though most that ascend wont bother posting their ascension for others to see.
 

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