Has anyone ever had a online consultation with Dr. Ramieri?

[fleurybobby]

How was the consultation? Did he give you an appointment or a follow up? And is it all online or how does it work?

 

[longjohnmong]

yeah, it's a consultation. he'll lay out a general plan of action and if you want to proceed you'll have another online meeting with him or you can go see him in person, i guess. i opted to not pursue treatment with him

 

[Deleted member 33030]

1/3 of total surgical fees to even get him to start PLANNING. Lol totally not sus

 

[fleurybobby]

yeah, it's a consultation. he'll lay out a general plan of action and if you want to proceed you'll have another online meeting with him or you can go see him in person, i guess. i opted to not pursue treatment with him

Why didnt you do the treatment with him?

 

[fleurybobby]

1/3 of total surgical fees to even get him to start PLANNING. Lol totally not sus

What does this mean? He scams or something?

 

[longjohnmong]

Why didnt you do the treatment with him?

because he didn't think I needed bimax. he said he'd do it if i had premolars extracted and braces to decompensate (which he recommends to a lot of people) but it was more like "if you insist..." than something he actually wanted to do. what he actually wanted to do was 10k custom genio, which is more than i paid for trimax in Turkey

 

[Deleted member 33030]

Why didnt you do the treatment with him?

Oh shit nvm. I thought you were talking about Pag. Ramieri is decent

 

[fleurybobby]

because he didn't think I needed bimax. he said he'd do it if i had premolars extracted and braces to decompensate (which he recommends to a lot of people) but it was more like "if you insist..." than something he actually wanted to do. what he actually wanted to do was 10k custom genio, which is more than i paid for trimax in Turkey

Oh i see. I also think i need decomp since ive had invaislign before to fix overjet. How was the trimax in turkey tho? And you mind sharing the surgeon?

 

[fleurybobby]

Oh shit nvm. I thought you were talking about Pag. Ramieri is decent

you got good experience with ramieri?

 

[Deleted member 33030]

you got good experience with ramieri?

Nah not really. I had a consult with him but decided not to go since he doesn’t do surgery first for bimax. Also doesn’t do saddled infras though I’ve heard he’s planning on introducing them in the future. So I’m going with Safi

 

[fleurybobby]

What do you think ramieri or safi?

 

[longjohnmong]

Oh i see. I also think i need decomp since ive had invaislign before to fix overjet. How was the trimax in turkey tho? And you mind sharing the surgeon?

it was fine

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[Deleted member 38639]

What do you think ramieri or safi?

Ramieri. Safi botches genios hard

 

[Mr Test]

Ramieri. Safi botches genios hard

Wdym with „botches hard“?

 

[Oxygen]

Wdym with „botches hard“?

I think ram tends to be more conservative and realistic with his movements, meaning his botch rate is low but the results arent as "chadifying". Safi is known for insane movements. Besides that, idk

 

[Deleted member 38639]

Wdym with „botches hard“?

He just sucks ass at genios

 

[PrimoMaxxer]

He just sucks ass at genios

Surgeons can be bad at genios? I thought they were easy af. Do you know if ramieris genios are good?

 

[Deleted member 38639]

Surgeons can be bad at genios? I thought they were easy af. Do you know if ramieris genios are good?

Ramieri does a pretty good job. He’s a solid choice overall

 

[ascenscionisnear]

Nah not really. I had a consult with him but decided not to go since he doesn’t do surgery first for bimax. Also doesn’t do saddled infras though I’ve heard he’s planning on introducing them in the future. So I’m going with Safi

He definitely does do surgery first. He just determined your occlusion wasn’t good enough for that.

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

He definitely does do surgery first. He just determined your occlusion wasn’t good enough for that.

Yeah, I had trimax with him very recently, and it was surgery first. My occlusion was good but not perfect. He gave me the choice and said that doing decompensation and braces would allow for slightly more mandible advancement and a more natural looking lip position

 

[Deleted member 38639]

Nah not really. I had a consult with him but decided not to go since he doesn’t do surgery first for bimax. Also doesn’t do saddled infras though I’ve heard he’s planning on introducing them in the future. So I’m going with Safi

He does do surgery first. He saw my scans/bite (compensated class 1, skeletal class 2) and asked 'when do you want Bimax?' JFL. It just depends how stable your current occlusion is

 

[ascenscionisnear]

Yeah, I had trimax with him very recently, and it was surgery first. My occlusion was good but not perfect. He gave me the choice and said that doing decompensation and braces would allow for slightly more mandible advancement and a more natural looking lip position

How are your results like if you don’t mind me asking?

 

[Deleted member 33030]

He does do surgery first. He saw my scans/bite (compensated class 1, skeletal class 2) and asked 'when do you want Bimax?' JFL. It just depends how stable your current occlusion is

When did you have a consult with him? Maybe he changed his stance.

I know that a while back at least he was against performing bimax on patients that had gone through compensation orthodontics.

This is my bite:

 

[ImmortalBarbie]

Oh shit nvm. I thought you were talking about Pag. Ramieri is decent

whats wrong with pagnoni

 

[Deleted member 38639]

When did you have a consult with him? Maybe he changed his stance.

I know that a while back at least he was against performing bimax on patients that had gone through compensation orthodontics.

This is my bite:View attachment 2783541

Back in September 2023

 

[Deleted member 38639]

When did you have a consult with him? Maybe he changed his stance.

I know that a while back at least he was against performing bimax on patients that had gone through compensation orthodontics.

This is my bite:View attachment 2783541

Well I never had ortho, just a naturally compensated class II. May be different in this case

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

How are your results like if you don’t mind me asking?

I’m pretty happy with them.

Front and smile also improved hugely due to fixing SFS but cba to share full face at the moment. I may post about my experience, but I’ve been waiting for swelling to go down. The after pic is about 1 month post-op.

 

[PrimoMaxxer]

I’m pretty happy with them.
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Front and smile also improved hugely due to fixing SFS but cba to share full face at the moment. I may post about my experience, but I’ve been waiting for swelling to go down. The after pic is about 1 month post-op.

Holy fucking shit you owe him your life

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

Holy fucking shit you owe him your life

The funny thing is some people I saw recently that I haven’t seen in months didn’t even seem to notice. But the be fair, I used to jutfraud a lot, but my subhumanity was exposed if I had to talk or smile jfl

 

[PrimoMaxxer]

The funny thing is some people I saw recently that I haven’t seen in months didn’t even seem to notice. But the be fair, I used to jutfraud a lot, but my subhumanity was exposed if I had to talk or smile jfl

They must be mentally retarded, you look like a completely different person just from profile

 

[ascenscionisnear]

I’m pretty happy with them.
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Front and smile also improved hugely due to fixing SFS but cba to share full face at the moment. I may post about my experience, but I’ve been waiting for swelling to go down. The after pic is about 1 month post-op.

Looks fantastic!

 

[sorrowfulsad]

I’m pretty happy with them.
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Front and smile also improved hugely due to fixing SFS but cba to share full face at the moment. I may post about my experience, but I’ve been waiting for swelling to go down. The after pic is about 1 month post-op.

how the fuck is your jawline/jaw so mich more visible? what exactly did you have done and what movements?

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

how the fuck is your jawline/jaw so mich more visible? what exactly did you have done and what movements?

I think perhaps the lighting is more favourable in the after pic, but definition is for sure a lot better at all times due to the skin stretch I guess. It was trimax + ramus widening (only ~1-2mm I think). I actually don't know all the exact movements; some of it changed on the day as there was an issue with my custom plates not fitting, resulting in them being used on the mandible only, with standard plates on the maxilla, and I think I ended up with more advancement than originally planned. I didn't really understand the Doc's explanation tbh.

However, I do know the mandible advancement was about 11mm on one side and 9mm on the other (correcting asymmetry). Maybe about 5-6mm advancement on the maxilla with a 4.5mm downgraft with tiny bit of clockwise roation. Can't remember genio movements but was mostly just vertical. Total increase in facial height of about 15mm apparently, which I imagine adds to the skin stretch effect.

Also I just realised one of the images is of my other side and flipped jfl. Not that it makes much difference anyway.

 

[user123456]

I’m pretty happy with them.
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Front and smile also improved hugely due to fixing SFS but cba to share full face at the moment. I may post about my experience, but I’ve been waiting for swelling to go down. The after pic is about 1 month post-op.

Nust going to ask did ypur front profile improve and how mcuh?

 

[fleurybobby]

I’m pretty happy with them.
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Front and smile also improved hugely due to fixing SFS but cba to share full face at the moment. I may post about my experience, but I’ve been waiting for swelling to go down. The after pic is about 1 month post-op.

Just to confirm, this is with Ramieri right? Insane ascension btw

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

Nust going to ask did ypur front profile improve and how mcuh?

Yeah, I think it did quite a bit mainly from the vertical movements because I had short face syndrome.

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

Just to confirm, this is with Ramieri right? Insane ascension btw

Thanks. Yes, it was with Ramieri.

 

[lookmaxxer998]

I’m pretty happy with them.
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Front and smile also improved hugely due to fixing SFS but cba to share full face at the moment. I may post about my experience, but I’ve been waiting for swelling to go down. The after pic is about 1 month post-op.

Bro, personally give him a BJ. Personally. Bc that italian pasta eating mf ascended you to chad side profile status so hard it’s actually unreal.

 

[Chris2001]

I’m pretty happy with them.
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Front and smile also improved hugely due to fixing SFS but cba to share full face at the moment. I may post about my experience, but I’ve been waiting for swelling to go down. The after pic is about 1 month post-op.

I honestly think you are one of his best results, very nice one bro. most of his cases are under advanced. short face cases are always so good. your dating life is going to change

 

[BlackpilledPlatypus]

I honestly think you are one of his best results, very nice one bro. most of his cases are under advanced. short face cases are always so good. your dating life is going to change

Thanks bro. I suppose I was advanced ever so slightly more than planned, as explained earlier in the thread. Still, I also had got a plan from Pagnoni and it had less advancement than Ramieri’s plan. Perhaps because I expressed my main concern as SFS. Pags plan had bigger vertical movements though which inspired me to ask Ramieri for more vertical movement too, which he agreed to do.

 

[ascenscionisnear]

I honestly think you are one of his best results, very nice one bro. most of his cases are under advanced. short face cases are always so good. your dating life is going to change

Is that true about the under advancement? I feel like I’ve seen some of his cases get crazy advancement. Overall his results seem balanced.

 

[Deleted member 38639]

I’m pretty happy with them.
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Front and smile also improved hugely due to fixing SFS but cba to share full face at the moment. I may post about my experience, but I’ve been waiting for swelling to go down. The after pic is about 1 month post-op.

Beautiful results. I seriously considered Ramieri, but went with Giant instead since it's a much much better deal for all the stuff I'm getting.

 

[fleurybobby]

Beautiful results. I seriously considered Ramieri, but went with Giant instead since it's a much much better deal for all the stuff I'm getting.

How is your experience with Giant so far?

 

[Deleted member 38639]

How is your experience with Giant so far?

Overall pretty good. He’s extremely busy, but he usually answers my questions instantly or within an hour or two. Gives very detailed responses to questions, too. I’ll update y’all with post-op care and such soon after my surgery.

 

[fleurybobby]

Overall pretty good. He’s extremely busy, but he usually answers my questions instantly or within an hour or two. Gives very detailed responses to questions, too. I’ll update y’all with post-op care and such soon after my surgery.

Im a bit confused on if Giant is a surgeon or just an implant designer. If hes just a implant designer then do you know what surgeon you are going with to put the implants in?

 

[Deleted member 38639]

Im a bit confused on if Giant is a surgeon or just an implant designer. If hes just an implant designer then do you know what surgeon you are going with to put the implants in?

Liam is an implant and osteotomy designer. I believe he’s studying to be a craniofacial surgeon, too. Celal and Dr. Serder will be installing the implants, but Liam will be supervising and assisting in the operating room

 

[fleurybobby]

Liam is an implant and osteotomy designer. I believe he’s studying to be a craniofacial surgeon, too. Celal and Dr. Serder will be installing the implants, but Liam will be supervising and assisting in the operating room

And I imagine Liam is from Giant? And im also almost sure that Giant is realsurgerymax

 

[Deleted member 38639]

And I imagine Liam is from Giant? And im also almost sure that Giant is realsurgerymax

Liam = Giant = RealSurgeryMax lol

 

[Dele Alli Regen]

Overall pretty good. He’s extremely busy, but he usually answers my questions instantly or within an hour or two. Gives very detailed responses to questions, too. I’ll update y’all with post-op care and such soon after my surgery.

update me bro. also pm me with what are you getting done and your face rn if ur comfortable.

 

[bolshevik37]

Liam is an implant and osteotomy designer. I believe he’s studying to be a craniofacial surgeon, too. Celal and Dr. Serder will be installing the implants, but Liam will be supervising and assisting in the operating room

Celal has a lot of negative reviews online, both Turkish and international. Is there any reason Giant is working with him? Also does he plan bimax and trimaxes without implants? Thanks in advance btw!