Have I escaped LTN hell?

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americanpakitruvcel

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I posted here a while back and the general consensus was that I was around HLTN, so I decided to take the advice I got and grew out my hair, also got a little leaner and started cleaning my beard better, I do think I look noticeably better and have gotten compliments by people who know me, I’m still worse looking than most guys my age who aren’t obese but I’d like to know if I’m definitely at least LMTN in other peoples eyes, I’m not really looksmaxxing for female attention anymore because I’m a manlet and a framelet and curry JFL but I don’t wanna suffer from the horn affect at school and work, otherwise the way I look isn’t really an obstacle to 99% of my goals so I’m chilling. DJS would def ascend me since I’m downgrown as fuck but I can’t afford it for the forseeable future, maybe in like 5 years hopefully. I’m getting rhino soon as well so that’ll also help my harmony a lot. Anyway I’d like some honest ratings
 

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Would say about lmtn
 
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get a rhino unc
 
Sub 5
 
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TrueScandinavian said:
Based on what? He is not even close to lmtn, explain your reasoning.
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Average dude is hltn-Lmtn, I have literally never been discriminated against for my looks, and have been actively complimented for shit like my hair, and most people treat me completely normally, there’s no way I’m not at least HLTN by definition lol unless you’re using some other metric
 
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MTN if you fixed nose
 
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Bunny__ said:
Only looked at first pic side is shit hltn
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Side matters much less than front imo but I appreciate the honesty, I’m getting rhino very soon so hopefully that saves my side
 
americanpakitruvcel said:
Average dude is hltn-Lmtn, I have literally never been discriminated against for my looks, and have been actively complimented for shit like my hair, and most people treat me completely normally, there’s no way I’m not at least HLTN by definition lol unless you’re using some other metric
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Your real life ''Expirence'' have no power when rating your face. Your well below average thats it. Guessing by your name your live in America which is not a easy country to compete against the average.
 
TrueScandinavian said:
Your real life ''Expirence'' have no power when rating your face. Your well below average thats it. Guessing by your name your live in America which is not an easy country to compete against the average.
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That’s bullshit lol, face ratings are useless if they don’t somewhat line up with reality. If a guy is considered terrible looking on here but has a face consistently rated highly by women irl, then it’s the raters that are missing something, not reality. I’ve seen how truly ugly people are treated and that just never happens to me JFL
 
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americanpakitruvcel said:
That’s bullshit lol, face ratings are useless if they don’t somewhat line up with reality. If a guy is considered terrible looking on here but has a face consistently rated highly by women irl, then it’s the raters that are missing something, not reality. I’ve seen how truly ugly people are treated and that just never happens to me JFL
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Whatever helps you sleep at night bhai
 
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americanpakitruvcel said:
I posted here a while back and the general consensus was that I was around HLTN, so I decided to take the advice I got and grew out my hair, also got a little leaner and started cleaning my beard better, I do think I look noticeably better and have gotten compliments by people who know me, I’m still worse looking than most guys my age who aren’t obese but I’d like to know if I’m definitely at least LMTN in other peoples eyes, I’m not really looksmaxxing for female attention anymore because I’m a manlet and a framelet and curry JFL but I don’t wanna suffer from the horn affect at school and work, otherwise the way I look isn’t really an obstacle to 99% of my goals so I’m chilling. DJS would def ascend me since I’m downgrown as fuck but I can’t afford it for the forseeable future, maybe in like 5 years hopefully. I’m getting rhino soon as well so that’ll also help my harmony a lot. Anyway I’d like some honest ratings
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not mtn, get a better haircut that makes ur forehead smaller and ur going to be hltn
 
americanpakitruvcel said:
Average dude is hltn-Lmtn, I have literally never been discriminated against for my looks, and have been actively complimented for shit like my hair, and most people treat me completely normally, there’s no way I’m not at least HLTN by definition lol unless you’re using some other metric
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You're a safe hltn, maybe even a lmtn.
 
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l(scaresdahuzz)n
 
americanpakitruvcel said:
I posted here a while back and the general consensus was that I was around HLTN, so I decided to take the advice I got and grew out my hair, also got a little leaner and started cleaning my beard better, I do think I look noticeably better and have gotten compliments by people who know me, I’m still worse looking than most guys my age who aren’t obese but I’d like to know if I’m definitely at least LMTN in other peoples eyes, I’m not really looksmaxxing for female attention anymore because I’m a manlet and a framelet and curry JFL but I don’t wanna suffer from the horn affect at school and work, otherwise the way I look isn’t really an obstacle to 99% of my goals so I’m chilling. DJS would def ascend me since I’m downgrown as fuck but I can’t afford it for the forseeable future, maybe in like 5 years hopefully. I’m getting rhino soon as well so that’ll also help my harmony a lot. Anyway I’d like some honest ratings
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Get the hairline lowerd
 
zigeuner said:
Get the hairline lowerd
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I don’t think my hairline is that bad lol, most guys have pretty high hairlines and mine isn’t receding or anything
 
americanpakitruvcel said:
I posted here a while back and the general consensus was that I was around HLTN, so I decided to take the advice I got and grew out my hair, also got a little leaner and started cleaning my beard better, I do think I look noticeably better and have gotten compliments by people who know me, I’m still worse looking than most guys my age who aren’t obese but I’d like to know if I’m definitely at least LMTN in other peoples eyes, I’m not really looksmaxxing for female attention anymore because I’m a manlet and a framelet and curry JFL but I don’t wanna suffer from the horn affect at school and work, otherwise the way I look isn’t really an obstacle to 99% of my goals so I’m chilling. DJS would def ascend me since I’m downgrown as fuck but I can’t afford it for the forseeable future, maybe in like 5 years hopefully. I’m getting rhino soon as well so that’ll also help my harmony a lot. Anyway I’d like some honest ratings
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Still LTN
 
mltn or hltn, rhino will ascend u bro
 
No. Need rhino and no infraorbitals, recessed maxilla. Hardmaxx
 
MLTN 🫩
 
americanpakitruvcel said:
I posted here a while back and the general consensus was that I was around HLTN, so I decided to take the advice I got and grew out my hair, also got a little leaner and started cleaning my beard better, I do think I look noticeably better and have gotten compliments by people who know me, I’m still worse looking than most guys my age who aren’t obese but I’d like to know if I’m definitely at least LMTN in other peoples eyes, I’m not really looksmaxxing for female attention anymore because I’m a manlet and a framelet and curry JFL but I don’t wanna suffer from the horn affect at school and work, otherwise the way I look isn’t really an obstacle to 99% of my goals so I’m chilling. DJS would def ascend me since I’m downgrown as fuck but I can’t afford it for the forseeable future, maybe in like 5 years hopefully. I’m getting rhino soon as well so that’ll also help my harmony a lot. Anyway I’d like some honest ratings
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Hltn, ipd holding you back
 
No ur ugly as fuck dude.
 
greycelsub3 said:
Hltn, ipd holding you back
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Is ipd really that big of a deal? I’ve seen guys with extremely close set eyes and yeah that’s a flaw, but eye spacing seems to just be fine unless it’s on the really far or close end, mines def not ideal but I don’t think it’s awful
 
americanpakitruvcel said:
I posted here a while back and the general consensus was that I was around HLTN, so I decided to take the advice I got and grew out my hair, also got a little leaner and started cleaning my beard better, I do think I look noticeably better and have gotten compliments by people who know me, I’m still worse looking than most guys my age who aren’t obese but I’d like to know if I’m definitely at least LMTN in other peoples eyes, I’m not really looksmaxxing for female attention anymore because I’m a manlet and a framelet and curry JFL but I don’t wanna suffer from the horn affect at school and work, otherwise the way I look isn’t really an obstacle to 99% of my goals so I’m chilling. DJS would def ascend me since I’m downgrown as fuck but I can’t afford it for the forseeable future, maybe in like 5 years hopefully. I’m getting rhino soon as well so that’ll also help my harmony a lot. Anyway I’d like some honest ratings
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almoost
 
americanpakitruvcel said:
Is ipd really that big of a deal? I’ve seen guys with extremely close set eyes and yeah that’s a flaw, but eye spacing seems to just be fine unless it’s on the really far or close end, mines def not ideal but I don’t think it’s awful
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It’s a lesser flaw but it’s noticeable nonetheless
 
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greycelsub3 said:
It’s a lesser flaw but it’s noticeable nonetheless
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I see, funnily enough the most consistent compliments I get are on my eyes and lashes which is why I didn’t really register my IPD as a flaw at first
 
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DNR subhuman
 
americanpakitruvcel said:
I see, funnily enough the most consistent compliments I get are on my eyes and lashes which is why I didn’t really register my IPD as a flaw at first
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Then your ipd is probably within a range that it doesn’t appear to be a flaw. From what I’ve seen mild deviation of ipd isn’t an issue but extreme ipd deviation pose a big issue
 
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greycelsub3 said:
Then your ipd is probably within a range that it doesn’t appear to be a flaw. From what I’ve seen mild deviation of ipd isn’t an issue but extreme ipd deviation pose a big issue
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Yeah I agree, just gotta thank god I don’t have Ryan gosling ipd jfl
 
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greycelsub3 said:
Then your ipd is probably within a range that it doesn’t appear to be a flaw. From what I’ve seen mild deviation of ipd isn’t an issue but extreme ipd deviation pose a big issue
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I calculated my esr and it’s like 0.43 which is def close set but not terrible, I think the reason it’s not that big of a deal is because I have a pretty small skull anyways, there isn’t really much space for my eyes to move to if I got OBO for example. Although I’m definitely never getting it anyway lmao
 
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lltn its over
 
astatin said:
You're a safe hltn, maybe even a lmtn.
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So I got rhino and the result looks really great so far, very natural looking and my surgeon is very pleased with the results, it’s still swollen as fuck though for a few weeks, with a straight nose would you say I’m MMTN or no?
 
americanpakitruvcel said:
I posted here a while back and the general consensus was that I was around HLTN, so I decided to take the advice I got and grew out my hair, also got a little leaner and started cleaning my beard better, I do think I look noticeably better and have gotten compliments by people who know me, I’m still worse looking than most guys my age who aren’t obese but I’d like to know if I’m definitely at least LMTN in other peoples eyes, I’m not really looksmaxxing for female attention anymore because I’m a manlet and a framelet and curry JFL but I don’t wanna suffer from the horn affect at school and work, otherwise the way I look isn’t really an obstacle to 99% of my goals so I’m chilling. DJS would def ascend me since I’m downgrown as fuck but I can’t afford it for the forseeable future, maybe in like 5 years hopefully. I’m getting rhino soon as well so that’ll also help my harmony a lot. Anyway I’d like some honest ratings
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lltn
 
yes
 
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americanpakitruvcel said:
I posted here a while back and the general consensus was that I was around HLTN, so I decided to take the advice I got and grew out my hair, also got a little leaner and started cleaning my beard better, I do think I look noticeably better and have gotten compliments by people who know me, I’m still worse looking than most guys my age who aren’t obese but I’d like to know if I’m definitely at least LMTN in other peoples eyes, I’m not really looksmaxxing for female attention anymore because I’m a manlet and a framelet and curry JFL but I don’t wanna suffer from the horn affect at school and work, otherwise the way I look isn’t really an obstacle to 99% of my goals so I’m chilling. DJS would def ascend me since I’m downgrown as fuck but I can’t afford it for the forseeable future, maybe in like 5 years hopefully. I’m getting rhino soon as well so that’ll also help my harmony a lot. Anyway I’d like some honest ratings
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Rhyno and genio. Then yes
 
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