Having confidence is important

[JamesHowlett]

A confident ugly person will get more girls than a shy ugly person e.g. 10 vs 5

A confident normie will get more girls than a shy normie e.g. 50 vs 30

A confident chad will get more girls than a shy chad e.g. 100 vs 80

This doesn’t contradict the blackpill/lookspill because you’d still get more girls the better looking you are (5 vs 30 vs 80 as an example).

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Yeah it's just lots of idiots out there think confidence and game can replace looks

 

[rentfreegigachad]

A confident ugly person will get more girls than a shy ugly person e.g. 10 vs 5

A confident normie will get more girls than a shy normie e.g. 50 vs 30

A confident chad will get more girls than a shy chad e.g. 100 vs 80

This doesn’t contradict the blackpill/lookspill because you’d still get more girls the better looking you are (5 vs 30 vs 80 as an example).

easy to say for a gigachad

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

The data doesnt support this, ugly/unattractive men who are confident are seen as less appealing than unattractive men who are reserved and inhibited. This type of behavior is perceived as a negative, creepy behavior from an ugly man, and positive, confident behavior from an attractive man. There is a looks threshold that has to be met for things like this to be effective, so beloe that threshold it is detrimental but above the threshold its advantageous

 

[Deleted member 5258]

 

[JamesHowlett]

The data doesnt support this, ugly/unattractive men who are confident are seen as less appealing than unattractive men who are reserved and inhibited. This type of behavior is perceived as a negative, creepy behavior from an ugly man, and positive, confident behavior from an attractive man. There is a looks threshold that has to be met for things like this to be effective, so beloe that threshold it is detrimental but above the threshold its advantageous

I’ve seen ugly men who can talk for England pull in bars tbh

Would you say the threshold is normie?

 

[JamesHowlett]

easy to say for a gigachad

No joke, just be confident legit works for me, I get nothing if I act shy around girls.

 

[rentfreegigachad]

No joke, just be confident legit works for me, I get nothing if I act shy around girls.

no confidence on dating apps

 

[JamesHowlett]

no confidence on dating apps

Brutally true, have to get them IRL

 

[rentfreegigachad]

Brutally true, have to get them IRL

do you think i would slay if i was low inhib

 

[Ocelot]

how do you even act confident tbh

 

[Deleted member 10172]

how do you even act confident tbh

You can't, this shit is all cope.From the height pill perspective u can't be confident being a manlet

 

[Deleted member 10185]

I have seen tons of Chadlites crying about not getting women because they arent confidence and their social skills sucks.

 

[Ocelot]

You can't, this shit is all cope.From the height pill perspective u can't be confident being a manlet

brb getting LL

 

[Deleted member 10185]

how do you even act confident tbh

When you dont to cope near women. Dont say Im ugly. Dont complain about anything. Make them laugh.

 

[Madhate]

I'm 4.5 psl and I get 0 if i'm not confident jfl
confidence is all for me at my psl

 

[Deleted member 275]

How to become confident though.

'just be confident' is worthless advice.
to me it just points towards the personalitypill that is even more brutal than the lookspill since personality is almost impossible to change.

 

[Norwooder]

You can't, this shit is all cope.From the height pill perspective u can't be confident being a manlet

You can't act confident, the reason why it's so hard to do is becuase it is against nature
proper confidence comes from validation
delusional confidence never works, people will be confused and think 'Geez who let you get so confident' and will proceed to put you in your place

 

[Deleted member 5385]

Confidence comes from look (90%) and talents, skulls(10%) in both you have feeling you are better than others and that a confidence.
Being confident as a bad looking guy is pathetic

 

[optimisticzoomer]

How to become confident though.

'just be confident' is worthless advice.
to me it just points towards the personalitypill that is even more brutal than the lookspill since personality is almost impossible to change.

No, I feel personality is quite flexible. For example, when I am feeling down I act quiet and like a bitch to others, whereas when I'm in a better mood, I think I'm alright no be around. Your personality largely depends on your mood and also on your experiences. For example, if you have a hobby you enjoy, you're gonna have a better personality than if you just sit around complaining

 

[Deleted member 275]

No, I feel personality is quite flexible. For example, when I am feeling down I act quiet and like a bitch to others, whereas when I'm in a better mood, I think I'm alright no be around. Your personality largely depends on your mood and also on your experiences. For example, if you have a hobby you enjoy, you're gonna have a better personality than if you just sit around complaining

Yeah but your overall mood is your personality. Being able to enjoy certain hobbies is your personality. Being comfortable in certain situations is your personality, etc.

 

[johncruz12345]

Yeah but your overall mood is your personality. Being able to enjoy certain hobbies is your personality. Being comfortable in certain situations is your personality, etc.

This is conplete cope. I thought this as all well, but its possible to change your personality.

 

[Deleted member 275]

This is conplete cope. I thought this as all well, but its possible to change your personality.

then explain, cuz ive tried and failed miserably time and time again

 

[optimisticzoomer]

then explain, cuz ive tried and failed miserably time and time again

Because you spend your time on this site lol. What you do in your everyday life and who u surround urself with affects your personality. I took a long break from this site and became happier, now I'm back but only to spend minimal time and for looksmaxing

 

[Deleted member 275]

Because you spend your time on this site lol. What you do in your everyday life and who u surround urself with affects your personality. I took a long break from this site and became happier, now I'm back but only to spend minimal time and for looksmaxing

you dont know anything about me

 

[optimisticzoomer]

you dont know anything about me

"Joined: September 8, 2018"

 

[Deleted member 275]

"Joined: September 8, 2018"

So? What do you know about what I was doing before september 8, 2018?

You think I didn't go to school, have hobbies, socialize, play sports like any other normal kid? I ended up here anyways.

I am 25yo bro. At some point you realize its over and you have fought too much with 0 results.

 

[Deusmaximus]

Dating 2020 = tinder = 99,9% of what matters is looks = when you are attractive you just invite girls to your home. Its that easy. Jfl at guys still trying to cold approach in bars/clubs/social circle. Imagine wasting energy on a girl that maybe doesnt like your face, or is not even single. Its so stupid. Tinder or die trying.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

So? What do you know about what I was doing before september 8, 2018?

You think I didn't go to school, have hobbies, socialize, play sports like any other normal kid? I ended up here anyways.

I am 25yo bro. At some point you realize its over and you have fought too much with 0 results.

Yeah you ended up here, hence why u dont do anything anymore

 

[Deleted member 275]

Yeah you ended up here, hence why u dont do anything anymore

> what you do in your everyday life and who u surround urself with affects your personality.

so whats with this cope then. jfl bluecel moment

 

[optimisticzoomer]

> what you do in your everyday life and who u surround urself with affects your personality.

so whats with this cope then. jfl bluecel moment

You can't be helped, sorry

 

[Deleted member 275]

You can't be helped, sorry

ok

 

[Carl-o]

Hmmmm

 

[Matheus]

ok

I think the other guy expressed himself poorly but he was right on the content. If you spend 6h/day on this forum what do you do for 6h every day ? Compare yourself to every chad out there, overanalyze every single one of your flaw. Obviously some personality traits are defined by your looks and you can only be as confident as your looks allow, overall, as it can vary in some situations. But what if instead of spending 6 hours here you played on your strengths and, say, you wrote a book because you're good at writing ? Your personality would have changed. You would be that guy who wrote a book. You have an outlet, if the world becomes unbearable you can just say fuck it and go write a book. You're less dependent on unstable factors (looks) for validation. It makes you more calm, less anxious. This transpires in your interactions and the way you interact with people. This change has emerged from what you've DONE. We are what we repeatedly do. Women are judged on what they are, men on what they do.

Your looks and personality have to match. A truecel can only really have the personality of a truecel, but a normie's can range from truecel to normie. Chads have an edge, obviously, because they can have chad personalities. But most people here are huge mentalcels and have a supbar behaviour compared to their looks. That can be adjusted by doing stuff.

Basically there's three types of things : easy things, hard things and impossible things. Pursuing the first will only give immediate pleasure and gives no self-esteem (eating, jerking off…) ; impossible things gives way to frustration (trying to become chad, etc). Hard things you must put effort into, gives less intense and more diffuse pleasure, and give lasting self-esteem. Reaching your perfect looksmax falls either in the hard or impossible category. For most people who LDAR here their perfect looksmax is unreachable. Set yourself a looksmax goal, find stuff to do on the side and when you've reached your goal quit looksmaxing.

Not saying looks don't matter ; they do and more than personality when it comes to attracting foids. But if you're decent looking and have a shit personality you're cockblocking yourself.

 

[NormieKilla]

I will definitely become more confident..after rhinoplasty and ears reduction surgery.

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