head posture and recessed jaw correlation

[goo25]

Does forward head posture make you look less recessed than you actually are or Is jaw recession that helds you in a bad posture?

 

[Deleted member 18879]

both are true

someone who is recessed with good posture will look recessed (it may be impossible for them to achieve depending on gonial angle and airways), and bad posture results from shit bones

 

[goo25]

both are true

someone who is recessed with good posture will look recessed (it may be impossible for them to achieve depending on gonial angle and airways), and bad posture results from shit bones

like some people on here told me that my jaw isn't recessed or is just slightly, and i don't Need bimax but genioplasty. But i have shit neck posture and if I try to be in a good posture i look giga-recessed

 

[Deleted member 31024]

Bad posture + mouth breathing makes you recessed which long term makes it impossible to have good posture

 

[goo25]

Bad posture + mouth breathing makes you recessed which long term makes it impossible to have good posture

yea but actually what Is your real grade of recession when you have shit body posture? Like Is It when you are in good posture?

 

[Deleted member 31024]

yea but actually what Is your real grade of recession when you have shit body posture? Like Is It when you are in good posture?

Wdym

 

[Jhon Smith]

 

[goo25]

Wdym

I posted some pics of my side and most of people told me that my jaw isn't recessed or it's Just slightly, but if I try to be in good posture I look giga recessed, Is that how really my recession Is or is just because I cannot have good body posture even if my jaw Is slightly recessed? I know it's hard to understand

 

[goo25]

bump Need answers

 

[Deleted member 18879]

bump Need answers

 

[goo25]

wtf

 

[Bewusst]

It's the latter. All parts of the body are intricately linked and the body will always try to compensate to maintain homeostais. Unfortunately, conventional medicine and orthodontics falsely regards these compensating mechanisms as disease itself and often makes things worse through symptomatic treatment

 

[goo25]

It's the latter. All parts of the body are intricately linked and the body will always try to compensate to maintain homeostais. Unfortunately, conventional medicine and orthodontics falsely regards these compensating mechanisms as disease itself and often makes things worse through symptomatic treatment

thanks man, what you think about this?

I posted some pics of my side and most of people told me that my jaw isn't recessed or it's Just slightly, but if I try to be in good posture I look giga recessed, Is that how really my recession Is or is just because I cannot have good body posture even if my jaw Is slightly recessed? I know it's hard to understand

 

[Bewusst]

thanks man, what you think about this?

Need pics for reference

 

[goo25]

Need pics for reference

what Is my gonial angle?

Can someone calcolate It? Do i Need bimax or genio? https://ibb.co/7Xz2SQK https://ibb.co/2SZkSx5

looksmax.org

look at this, there are even other pics if you scroll, I know my chin Is recessed Just wanna know how much my jaw is

 

[goo25]

up

 

[goo25]

@Bewusst have u seen the pics?

 

[goo25]

bump

 

[Bewusst]

@Bewusst have u seen the pics?

Your maxilla doesn't look recessed, but it looks like you have some kind of malocclusion and low hyoid position. Do or did you have an overjet? Orthodontic treatment in the past?

 

[goo25]

Your maxilla doesn't look recessed, but it looks like you have some kind of malocclusion and low hyoid position. Do or did you have an overjet? Orthodontic treatment in the past?

I have a 2nd class malocclusion and the low hyoid could be caused by the fact that my chin Is recessed, I didn't have any ortho treatment btw

 

[Deleted member 24770]

Does forward head posture make you look less recessed than you actually are or Is jaw recession that helds you in a bad posture?

I’ve had bad head posture and my jaw is very forwardly grown. It makes me look more downgrown than anything else lol, not recessed tbh

 

[goo25]

I’ve had bad head posture and my jaw is very forwardly grown. It makes me look more downgrown than anything else lol, not recessed tbh

no I didn't Say that bad posture makes you look more recessed but I asked if It makes you look less recessed than you actually are

 

[Deleted member 24770]

no I didn't Say that bad posture makes you look more recessed but I asked if It makes you look less recessed than you actually are

Nope lol I feel its the opposite infact. It becomes laughably visible for me when someones not got proper head posture . Like a couple of my black friends making goofy faces their chins look very weak still, cant create bone no matter what. Bones= life

 

[goo25]

bu

Nope lol I feel its the opposite infact. It becomes laughably visible for me when someones not got proper head posture . Like a couple of my black friends making goofy faces their chins look very weak still, cant create bone no matter what. Bones=Life

but recessed people can't have a good head posture

 

[Deleted member 24770]

bu

but recessed people can't have a good head posture

Not true. Recession is almost always because of genetics lol. Head posture is environmental/ because of yourself

 

[goo25]

Not true. Recession is almost always because of genetics lol. Head posture is environmental

@anticel what do u think

 

[goo25]

Not true. Recession is almost always because of genetics lol. Head posture is environmental/ because of yourself

and people with recessed jaws tilt their head forward to open their airways. Btw recession Is a lot of times because of bad habits not genetics

 

[Deleted member 24770]

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and people with recessed jaws tilt their head forward to open their airways. Btw recession Is a lot of times because of bad habits not genetics

Lol keep coping. Most black people are genetically recessed because they have extremely prominent maxillas. I’ve had terrible habits but im not recessed at all and its mainly genetic

 

[Bewusst]

I have a 2nd class malocclusion and the low hyoid could be caused by the fact that my chin Is recessed, I didn't have any ortho treatment btw

That explains your "recessed" appearance with good posture. Your mandible is too far back, which also causes the low hyoid due to bad tongue posture. My advice: Start chewing gum religiously with your front teeth only (incisors, canines and premolars) and sleep on your side (both sides) to prevent your mandible from falling back at night in order to increase resting superior masseter and lateral pterygoid muscle tone, which will bring your mandible forward over time. You don't need to use gum excessively. An hour at a time is enough, whatever you're comfortable with. Just make it a daily habit. No need for tough gum like mastic either, normal gum is fine. Use 2-3 pieces at a time, depending on size. If you get digestive issues like gas or diarrhea, switch to gum without sugar alcohols like sorbitol, mannitol or xylitol (which can have a laxative effect in high amounts). But avoid anything with titanium dioxide, which is really bad.

You're so lucky that you didn't have orthodontic treatment. Orthodontics screwed me over big time. But then again, I was just a clueless 11 yo with no knowledge and say. Best of luck to you and don't listen to the people on here; most of them have no idea what they're talking about. You do not need jaw surgery. Pm whenever you need help

 

[goo25]

That explains your "recessed" appearance with good posture. Your mandible is too far back, which also causes the low hyoid due to bad tongue posture. My advice: Start chewing gum religiously with your front teeth only (incisors, canines and premolars) and sleep on your side (both sides) to prevent your mandible from falling back at night in order to increase resting superior masseter and lateral pterygoid muscle tone, which will bring your mandible forward over time. You don't need to use gum excessively. An hour at a time is enough, whatever you're comfortable with. Just make it a daily habit. No need for tough gum like mastic either, normal gum is fine. Use 2-3 pieces at a time, depending on size. If you get digestive issues like gas or diarrhea, switch to gum without sugar alcohols like sorbitol, mannitol or xylitol (which can have a laxative effect in high amounts). But avoid anything with titanium dioxide, which is really bad.

You're so lucky that you didn't have orthodontic treatment. Orthodontics screwed me over big time. But then again, I was just a clueless 11 yo with no knowledge and say. Best of luck to you and don't listen to the people on here; most of them have no idea what they're talking about. You do not need jaw surgery. Pm whenever you need help

thank you very much, in reality I was undergoing an ortho treatment in these months but luckily I've found some things on the internet that were saying to not get elastics or any retractive methods so I told the ortho to stop my treatment even if I've already paid for that. But at the moment I still have braces on the upper teeth and distal jet under my palate so I can't do mewing good. I'll try to chew gum, but my side profile makes me feel insecure so I was thinking about getting a genioplasty idk

 

[Bewusst]

thank you very much, in reality I was undergoing an ortho treatment in these months but luckily I've found some things on the internet that were saying to not get elastics or any retractive methods so I told the ortho to stop my treatment even if I've already paid for that. But at the moment I still have braces on the upper teeth and distal jet under my palate so I can't do mewing good. I'll try to chew gum, but my side profile makes me feel insecure so I was thinking about getting a genioplasty idk

NEVER EVER put on these elastics! If you have braces for crooked or crowded teeth, the damage may still be within reasonable limits, but elastics are an absolute no-no! I gave you my best advice as someone who has been completely fucked by orthodontics and done a lot of research on this topic. It's affecting my whole body head to toe, not just in terms of looks. Do whatever you want, but I hope you'll never end up like me

 

[goo25]

NEVER EVER put on these elastics! If you have braces for crooked or crowded teeth, the damage may still be within reasonable limits, but elastics are an absolute no-no! I gave you my best advice as someone who has been completely fucked by orthodontics and done a lot of research on this topic. It's affecting my whole body head to toe, not just in terms of looks. Do whatever you want, but I hope you'll never end up like me

thank you, I surely wont put elastics, Just wanna found some way to make me feel comfortable with my side profile

 

[Bewusst]

thank you, I surely wont put elastics, Just wanna found some way to make me feel comfortable with my side profile

Patience!

 

[actualunderstander]

Idk cause I use to have pretty bad posture but has a good jaw bone

 

[spark]

Lol keep coping. Most black people are genetically recessed because they have extremely prominent maxillas. I’ve had terrible habits but im not recessed at all and its mainly genetic

90% of humans have a malocclusion while almost no animals do and nor did our primitive ancestors. So unless you believe we sexually selected for recession and thus evolved to be all recessed you're making no sense whatsoever. Also "habits" account for nothing so I don't really have an idea what you're trying to say.

 

[Deleted member 24770]

90% of humans have a malocclusion while almost no animals do and nor did our primitive ancestors. So unless you believe we sexually selected for recession and thus evolved to be all recessed you're making no sense whatsoever. Also "habits" account for nothing so I don't really have an idea what you're trying to say.

Exactly LMFAO retard I was trying to counterargue, he brought up the habits bullshit if u can learn how to read fucking ape. We didn’t sexually select for recession, but some skills shapes have differences. Black people have recessed chins mostly because of their extremely projected maxillas so their chins never reach/shoot past the base of the nose. Hope this clears it for you, fucking moron

 

[spark]

Exactly LMFAO retard I was trying to counterargue, he brought up the habits bullshit if u can learn how to read fucking ape. We didn’t sexually select for recession, but some skills shapes have differences. Black people have recessed chins mostly because of their extremely projected maxillas so their chins never reach/shoot past the base of the nose. Hope this clears it for you, fucking moron

What is this incel rage you're typing lmao.

90% of modern day humans have some sort of a malocclusion. Our primitive ancestors rarely did. It's due to our modern day lifestyle and nutrition.

There is only two ways out of your nonsensical argument:

A) Deny our ancestors were properly grown (quite difficult given we actually have ancient skulls)
B) Claim we sexually selected for recession (this is what Coceancig is trying to do). That however goes against Darwinism.

I tried not insulting you because you've already embarrassed yourself beyond belief on your own.

 

[goo25]

Exactly LMFAO retard I was trying to counterargue, he brought up the habits bullshit if u can learn how to read fucking ape. We didn’t sexually select for recession, but some skills shapes have differences. Black people have recessed chins mostly because of their extremely projected maxillas so their chins never reach/shoot past the base of the nose. Hope this clears it for you, fucking moron

I can 100% Say it's also because of habits as no One in my family Is recessed and I mouthbreathed since I was a kid and I'm recessed

 

[BrownEyesWD]

It’s important to keep in mind that most peoples hyoid bone are not actually low but it appears low either due to lack of vertical growth or the head being tilted up because of bad posture. The latter is much more common.

 

[goo25]

It’s important to keep in mind that most peoples hyoid bone are not actually low but it appears low either due to lack of vertical growth or the head being tilted up because of bad posture. The latter is much more common.

I do have low hyoid do you know If I can fix that?

 

[Deleted member 24770]

What is this incel rage you're typing lmao.

90% of modern day humans have some sort of a malocclusion. Our primitive ancestors rarely did. It's due to our modern day lifestyle and nutrition.

There is only two ways out of your nonsensical argument:

A) Deny our ancestors were properly grown (quite difficult given we actually have ancient skulls)
B) Claim we sexually selected for recession (this is what Coceancig is trying to do). That however goes against Darwinism.

I tried not insulting you because you've already embarrassed yourself beyond belief on your own.

Ur dumb asf different cultures also have had different standards for beauty. If Darwinism was legit wouldn’t all black people have good chins too? But why don’t they? You dodged my question and you’re just spouting some other nonsense. Calling me incel is crazy when you’re one lol this is literally looksmax and u believe in fucking Darwinism calling me incel jfl at this retard
Yes our Hunter gatherer ancestors were forwardly grown but since the transition into farming a lot has changed, faces less robust and forward grown, average height lessened. Less bones overall. We aren’t pure hunter gatherers anymore jfl.

 

[anticel]

@anticel what do u think

Not true. Recession is almost always because of genetics lol. Head posture is environmental/ because of yourself

that s the dumbest shit i ve heard. both obviously not true. recession is caused by genetic but mostly environmental factors while bad head posture is mostly caused by recession

 

[Deleted member 95659]

Your maxilla doesn't look recessed, but it looks like you have some kind of malocclusion and low hyoid position. Do or did you have an overjet? Orthodontic treatment in the past?

Hello, my lower jaw is indented and I received orthodontic treatment, can you help me?