Head shape and neurocranium splanchnocranium balance. Important overlooked trait

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Alright boyobuddies, this has been mentioned in various places, but not seriously enough considering its massive importance. Everyone makes fun of certain individuals for their large foreheads, gay alien heads, insufficient lower thirds, etc. But all these issues are closely connected to overall head shape, specifically neurocranium:splanchnocranium ratio.

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The neurocranium includes the forehead, occiput, and cranial vault. Splanchnocranium includes midface, zygos, and jaw, which many on here are obsessed with making as big as possible (for good reason).

Example:

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You can draw silhouettes of the head shapes and, from that alone, immediately see which one gets taken seriously. Never mind the detailed facial features, just the overall shape is enough. Dude on the left has a neurocranium that's over twice as large as his splanchnocranium, while Cain Velazquez on the right has a better ratio.

This is arguably more important than individual features like eye hooding and jaw definition. It has a huge effect on people's immediate impression, because it's obvious from every angle, even from very far away. In extreme cases, people will immediately decide, based on neurocranium:splanchnocranium ratio, how assertive you are allowed to act without seeming out of character.

Gay alien skull, lightbulb head, and many other deformities stem from neuro:splanchno ratio. You can get your rhinoplasties and hunter eye surgeries and do 100x100 neck training, but good luck making those work if you have a Jimmy Neutron skull.

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(http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0153083)

The splanchnocranium develops during puberty, so a dominant neurocranium signals underdevelopment including lower strength and test levels. Now, this may not actually be true (there are plenty of elite athletes, for example, that have dominant neurocraniums) but it's what your appearance signals, so people will assume it unless you either A) make your ratio look better, or B) develop compensating signs of robustness.

What to do about it
As long as you're not SUPER neuro dominant there are ways to completely remove this issue.
Note how in the above example, Cain Velazquez isn't excessively splanchno dominant. Generally, a more balanced appearance is optimal. (excessive splanchno dominance is not good either, but is rare except in some Middle Eastern phenotypes) It's far from over if you're only a little neuro dominant.

These are what I could think of. Feel free to add to the list.

1. Hairstyle. The worst cut a neurocraniumcel can get is combing it back with high volume on top which will turn you into a walking cuck beacon. But if you're only slightly neuro dominant, then the right haircut can remove this issue entirely. I've literally gotten many times more respect from both dudes and foids by combing my hair differently.

2. Beard. This goes without saying, you can use it to fraud large splanchno.

3. Sheer size. I remember this dude from my workplace who has 7" zygos and a 23" bideltoid, and was getting approached left and right by prime foids. At that point nobody cares about his large forehead or 0.57 lower-to-full-face ratio because he mogs everyone in sight.

4. Surgeries. Hairline lowering is the simplest but produces the least dramatic changes. Jaw fillers and genio with vertical lengthening are more drastic options.


Related factors
There are certain failos that can make your neuro:splanchno ratio appear off even if it's fine (or make a slight imbalance much worse).

1. A high hairline can cause the appearance of a dominant neurocranium. This can be fixed surgically, with hairstyle, or with anti-norwood methods, depending on why you have it.

2. Low set ears. These can failo you, giving the illusion of imbalance even if you're normal. I'm not sure if there's a surgery/looksmax for this, does anyone know?
 
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Head shape dpesnt matter retard. Stop coping. The person who wouldn’t get taken seriously also has a recessed maxilla and shitty mandible. Nobody actually notices what goes on behind the ears
 
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Head shape dpesnt matter retard. Stop coping. The person who wouldn’t get taken seriously also has a recessed maxilla and shitty mandible. Nobody actually notices what goes on behind the ears

Nope, completely wrong bud. You can give him Lefort 1, it'll help a little but he'll still look off. He has a round forehead, short ramus, and a multitude of suboptimal features which all stem from overall head shape.
 
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19th century anthropologists me
 
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The truth and don't ever forget it.

I just went to check out a few guys from my highschool i still have on Facebook (just to confirm a few things).

All of the school bullies and popular guys at school had normal heads.

The losers had lightbulb heads with small jaws.
Guys like that meathead on the right can get away with so much more in terms of facial imperfections, there are a subset of women will just swoon over his masculinity
 
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Over 9000 IQ thread
 
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both look like shit!
 
Brutal. I have such a retarded skull shape. Didn't really notice before that this is a death sentence but you're right.
 
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What if your skull-shape is similar to the baby in my profile picture?

Edit: forgot i have @itsOVER as my profile picture now
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Is it over for headshape like this?
 
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Can we stop obsessing over this nigga already? He has a very unconventional skullshape in almost every regard.
High cheekbones despite narrow palate, crooked nose despite nigga tier bimax... He is not representative for any kind of facial development, neither for mouthbreathers nor for nosebreathers. He's somewhere in between with a bit of 99.99th percentile genetic gifts.

And gay alien occiput actually does hurt him, he's acceptable looking despite it not because of it.
Nope, completely wrong bud. You can give him Lefort 1, it'll help a little but he'll still look off. He has a round forehead, short ramus, and a multitude of suboptimal features which all stem from overall head shape.
anyways we can consider ourselves lucky because splanchnocanium grows at a much faster rate past teenagehood, just look at acromegaly patients:


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(Andre the giant skull)


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(random nigga)


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(skulls from the same person, one when he was younger and the other when he got older and got acromgaly)


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(random niggas)
 
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anyways we can consider ourselves lucky because splanchnocanium grows at a much faster rate past teenagehood, just look at acromegaly patients:
How is it faster? Are you assuming we will induce acromegaly to ourselves?
 
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anyways we can consider ourselves lucky because splanchnocanium grows at a much faster rate past teenagehood, just look at acromegaly patients:

I'm not sure if this is always the case. Look at Peyton Manning. This is a result of years of HGH abuse.

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I hope scientists try to determine what causes neurocranium to grow instead of splanchnocranium, beyond just "muh genetics". Clearly people respond differently to various hormones at different ages and it'd be interesting to see how this affects skull development.

Yep, used effectively by many people including Dan Bilzerian and Conor McGregor. If you have good facial hair genetics go for it.

both look like shit!
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The truth and don't ever forget it.

I just went to check out a few guys from my highschool i still have on Facebook (just to confirm a few things).

All of the school bullies and popular guys at school had normal heads.

The losers had lightbulb heads with small jaws.
Guys like that meathead on the right can get away with so much more in terms of facial imperfections, there are a subset of women will just swoon over his masculinity

Yep, pretty much. The dude on the right could be scared shitless and would still look more "confident" than a coked out lightbulb head.

How severe were the losers' lightbulb heads?
 
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Can we stop obsessing over this nigga already? He has a very unconventional skullshape in almost every regard.
High cheekbones despite narrow palate, crooked nose despite nigga tier bimax... He is not representative for any kind of facial development, neither for mouthbreathers nor for nosebreathers. He's somewhere in between with a bit of 99.99th percentile genetic gifts.

And gay alien occiput actually does hurt him, he's acceptable looking despite it not because of it.

anyways we can consider ourselves lucky because splanchnocanium grows at a much faster rate past teenagehood, just look at acromegaly patients:


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(Andre the giant skull)


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(random nigga)


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(skulls from the same person, one when he was younger and the other when he got older and got acromgaly)


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(random niggas)
It's not only him. Almost every top model has a somewhat prominent occipult
 
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It's absolutely over for me. I have a large occipital bone which ruins my aesthetic completely. Do you think I should get surgery for it or not worth it? I'll post pics soon. I didn't realise it until I was with my family and my mum said "what's wrong with the back of your head?"
 
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On a side note, does anyone know if there's any correlation between the occiput and the gonial angle? I've never seen a larger occiput with a low gonial angle. Orb's was balloon tier and his angle was like 140.
 
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could the guy from your example have such a shitty neck/head because he games all day? its n0thing from csgo, a ex pro player so he obv sits on pc all day. would chin tucking or smth help? or other streches. im only talking about the connection between head and neck
 
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no appreciation for this lil joke here? No?



:(

I don't get it, too high IQ for me

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On a side note, does anyone know if there's any correlation between the occiput and the gonial angle? I've never seen a larger occiput with a low gonial angle. Orb's was balloon tier and his angle was like 140.

Lifefuel for occiputcels tbh

This is an interesting point though. I don't have a good answer, but it could just be general underdevelopment of the splanchnocranium relative to the neurocranium. A lot of people with high gonial angles have a short ramus, so their whole head ends up looking like a parallelogram.

could the guy from your example have such a shitty neck/head because he games all day? its n0thing from csgo, a ex pro player so he obv sits on pc all day. would chin tucking or smth help? or other streches. im only talking about the connection between head and neck

Neck posture does affect apparent head shape but not to his degree, even with perfect posture he'd still look like that. Shit posture during puberty can definitely affect growth though, so don't sit on your ass all day playing games if you're still growing.
 
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This is a good example of WARRIOR vs WIMP skull

muh skull doesn't matter
 
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Post example of high neocranium and low neocranium
 
large foreheads, gay alien heads, insufficient lower thirds, etc.
Underrated post, tbh

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Gay alien skull, lightbulb head, and many other deformities stem from neuro:splanchno ratio. You can get your rhinoplasties and hunter eye surgeries and do 100x100 neck training, but good luck making those work if you have a Jimmy Neutron skull.
Indeed.
 
fuckin over for him
How its over for him you dumb fuck? He mogs you and everyone here into oblivion. Shut your fucking mouth. Jesus christ.
 
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Head shape dpesnt matter retard. Stop coping. The person who wouldn’t get taken seriously also has a recessed maxilla and shitty mandible. Nobody actually notices what goes on behind the ears



Except that is connected with the cranial base which decides the rest of the face you can't isolate feautres they are all connected you can fraud however your spchlocho cranium
 
Except that is connected with the cranial base which decides the rest of the face you can't isolate feautres they are all connected you can fraud however your spchlocho cranium
Have you ever used a punctuation or comma?
 
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What to do about it
As long as you're not SUPER neuro dominant there are ways to completely remove this issue.
Note how in the above example, Cain Velazquez isn't excessively splanchno dominant. Generally, a more balanced appearance is optimal. (excessive splanchno dominance is not good either, but is rare except in some Middle Eastern phenotypes) It's far from over if you're only a little neuro dominant.

These are what I could think of. Feel free to add to the list.

1. Hairstyle. The worst cut a neurocraniumcel can get is combing it back with high volume on top which will turn you into a walking cuck beacon. But if you're only slightly neuro dominant, then the right haircut can remove this issue entirely. I've literally gotten many times more respect from both dudes and foids by combing my hair differently.

2. Beard. This goes without saying, you can use it to fraud large splanchno.

3. Sheer size. I remember this dude from my workplace who has 7" zygos and a 23" bideltoid, and was getting approached left and right by prime foids. At that point nobody cares about his large forehead or 0.57 lower-to-full-face ratio because he mogs everyone in sight.

4. Surgeries. Hairline lowering is the simplest but produces the least dramatic changes. Jaw fillers and genio with vertical lengthening are more drastic options.
Can Mewing help?
 
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External occipital protuberance size is a dimorphic trait so higher T = bigger occiput and you can not have a HUGE skull without a large occiput
 
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...you were saying...?
 
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External occipital protuberance size is a dimorphic trait so higher T = bigger occiput and you can not have a HUGE skull without a large occiput
bullshtt
 
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Balance is key. A dominant neurocranium can look high class but if it's too dominant then you turn into a lightbulb-cel like Aaron Paul. A dominant splanchnocranium can make you look high T and masculine. However, if it's too dominant then you end up looking like a neanderthal like that 7ft Russian boxer Valuev.
 
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again making absolute assumptions which is bullshit
 

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