health markers are the most important thing for looks?

One of the most important
 
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One of the most important
if it doesn't look natural and healthy then it is bad

thats why gymcell look so akward, to be fair even most looksmaxers here don't look good but akward with their hollow cheeks
 
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if it doesn't look natural and healthy then it is bad

thats why gymcell look so akward, to be fair even most looksmaxers here don't look good but akward with their hollow cheeks
You need effortless natural looks
 
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its important, but no where near the most

also why is this in offtopic lmao?:lul:
 
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Nah I used to think this too
But women prefer guys who do try
What makes you say that?
Everything I've seen says otherwise.
 
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Nah I used to think this too
But women prefer guys who do try
cope
the more effortless you show yourself, the more appealing you would be to the general population which includes women
 
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What makes you say that?
Everything I've seen says otherwise.
cope
the more effortless you show yourself, the more appealing you would be to the general population which includes women
Nah you're wrong
Yeah @Eltrē , you'd expect natural = less tryhard, better perceived genes. It's similar argument to the guy who didn't revise for an exam
They say that so if they did try, they'd look even better
But women are more influenced by the now, the actual results in front of them

Also, how they're attracted is different to men.

I wrote a few posts explaining this in the following thread:

Also check this:
 
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Nah you're wrong
Yeah @Eltrē , you'd expect natural = less tryhard, better perceived genes. It's similar argument to the guy who didn't revise for an exam
They say that so if they did try, they'd look even better
But women are more influenced by the now, the actual results in front of them

Also, how they're attracted is different to men.

I wrote a few posts explaining this in the following thread:

Also check this:
I mean it's an interesting perspective, but I don't know, your examples of that are on social media.
They'd look tryhard in-person.

I guess you could say they fill out some certain niche, but for mass appeal, effortless looks will always come on top.
 
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Nah I used to think this too
But women prefer guys who do try
Cope if a women saw you eating pizza and asked:
“how are you so lean and fit but you this” If you said

You say: “this is just a cheat meal, I have a very strict diet counting ever single grain of calories and I usually cry myself to sleep every night”.

She would think it’s over for you genetically. As opposed to

“I always eat whatever I want, I’ve always been shredded, sometimes I get even more shredded after a big meal lol, and I never had acne”.

She would get immediately aroused
If she had children with you they would have a higher chance of never worrying about weight and acne, along with allergies.
 
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