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Would tren cause plate closure? I researched but idk maybe something could compensate
 
yep closes them pretty much straight away along with destroying your natural test
 
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tren is a meme
 
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yep closes them pretty much straight away along with destroying your natural test
through wich mechanism if I could ask, and on what are you basing your statement?
 
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fgfr3 inhibs and ai's do that , forget and dnr everything else
Alr thats gonna block the plate closure but there is no fuel to grow? No signal sent no?
 
through wich mechanism if I could ask, and on what are you relying your statement?
through skeletal maturation due to highly active androgen receptors
 
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Bs show me evidence. :feelskek:
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lots of evidence out there but here is a simple google search. only a simple understanding on hormones is required to know this with anabolic steroids
 
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yep closes them pretty much straight away along with destroying your natural test
Run test
And letrozole
If u wanna get maximum height velocity without closing ur growth plates
 
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lots of evidence out there but here is a simple google search. only a simple understanding on hormones is required to know this with anabolic steroids
yes, lets ask AI :feelskek:

do we even have to go on with this debate?

tell me what androgens do in the (different zones of the) growth plate.
dont use AI this time buddy :lul:
 
holy fuck fgfr3 inhibitors and ai's all you need you stupid nigga i went from 5'11 to 6'4 dm me
and then buy your course, right :lul:
 
yes, lets ask AI :feelskek:

do we even have to go on with this debate?

tell me what androgens do in the (different zones of the) growth plate.
dont use AI this time buddy :lul:
are you forgetting Ai reads the whole internet including studies you moron i doubt your anything more than a midget supporting tren usage for heightmaxxing you must be stupid
 
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are you forgetting Ai reads the whole internet including studies you moron i doubt your anything more than a midget supporting tren usage for heightmaxxing you must be stupid
90% reddit posts btw :lul:
 
Unless ur going really high doses it’s unlikely to have any effect on height good or bad becuase useing is solo crushes estrogen
 
are you forgetting Ai reads the whole internet including studies you moron i doubt your anything more than a midget supporting tren usage for heightmaxxing you must be stupid
so youre just blindly following ai.

alright I think thats it then lol
 
yes, lets ask AI :feelskek:

do we even have to go on with this debate?

tell me what androgens do in the (different zones of the) growth plate.
dont use AI this time buddy :lul:
Androgens increase IGF-1 sensitivity in bones and stimulate osteoblast activity, which supports longitudinal bone growth. Estrogen is the primary hormone responsible for the eventual closure of growth plates. Children with hypogonadism and delayed puberty are often treated with androgens to increase height velocity and multiple studies have shown improvements in final adult height. So instead of saying retard try to prove me wrong next time. FAGGOT
 
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alr what about intracellular aromatization?

is that just a myth?
This doesn't change anything. Your estrogen has to be high for your growth plates to close. Why do you think men who don't convert enough estrogen can keep growing until 25?
 
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Androgens increase IGF-1 sensitivity in bones and stimulate osteoblast activity, which supports longitudinal bone growth. Estrogen is the primary hormone responsible for the eventual closure of growth plates. Children with hypogonadism and delayed puberty are often treated with androgens to increase height velocity and multiple studies have shown improvements in final adult height. So instead of saying retard try to prove me wrong next time. FAGGOT
alr just ignore my point?

you did realize I do support androgens though?

just not AROMATIZEABLE androgens.

and all the studies you seem to mean are done with non aromatizeable androgens like winstrol, halotestin, anavar etc.
 
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alright you can support tren all you want but dont be mad when you fuck up your life along with your hormones in the future(y) fair trade mate
you are a retard you havent given a single molecule of evidence that it closes plates
 
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This doesn't change anything. Your estrogen has to be high for your growth plates to close. Why do you think men who don't convert enough estrogen can keep growing until 25?
"Why do you think men who don't convert enough estrogen can keep growing until 25?" are you retarded?

because they got 0 e2, not 25pg/ml.

DYOR
 
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"Why do you think men who don't convert enough estrogen can keep growing until 25?" are you retarded?

because they got 0 e2, not 25pg/ml.

DYOR
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and your arguing abt height right now manlet?
 
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alr just ignore my point?

you did realize I do support androgens though?

just not AROMATIZEABLE androgens.

and all the studies you seem to mean are done with non aromatizeable androgens like winstrol, halotestin, anavar etc.
u do realise when ur using test u can use a extremely strong inhibitor like letrozole? Which almost reduces estrogen conversion by 97 percent
 
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"Why do you think men who don't convert enough estrogen can keep growing until 25?" are you retarded?

because they got 0 e2, not 25pg/ml.

DYOR
They wouldn't be alive if they had 0 e2 there e2 levels are around 8-15
 
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Non aromatizing androgens, no test base, high fose GH, anti estrogens and maybe fgfr3i
Tren gh aromasin edoxifen is good? And do i need andox AND aromasin? Or only one is good?
 
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u do realise when ur using test u can use a extremely strong inhibitor like letrozole? Which almost reduces estrogen conversion by 97 percent
yeah, right, but not inside the growthplate.

you know that individuals can grow normally even though their systemic igf-1 production is super low?

thats because the hormones in the growth plate matter.
 
Do u have 0 e2? If u do u must feel like shit 24/7
yeah I got 0 e2 and I feel fine the androgenic load just has to be high enough.
 
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Are u on AAs?
tren, winstrol and some other PWO androgens occasioanally, no test base, 20mg tamooxife and 2mg arimidex
 
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tren, winstrol and some other PWO androgens occasioanally, no test base, 20mg tamooxife and 2mg arimidex
Good stack
Why don't u add low dose test like 80mg to keep test in normal range
Is this stack for height or physquie?
 
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Good stack
Why don't u add low dose test like 80mg to keep test in normal range
Is this stack for height or physquie?
yeah, height, physique and face.

I dont because more e2 equals more gp closure and I dont wanna risk that.
 
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