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below 5'4" – over beyond salvation and will be mocked for your height pretty much all the time
5'4" – not over in Asia if you look 4.5+ PSL Caucasian/lighter than average pheno, over beyond salvation elsewhere, prominent heightism and pretty much no one will date you.
5'5" – 5'6" – not over in Asia but definitely no good, small chance of being redeemed with top tier body and above average looks. Will likely face heightism and solid dating disadvantage. If you're brown/ethnic looking at this height or less, you will have a ghetto sort of aura to you and it's definitely over even in Asia unless you're ridiculously good looking. Solidly short.
5'7" – 5'8" – minimum height acceptable for a male to live normally in most places, same as above otherwise but heightism to slightly lesser degree. Disadvantageous height.
5'9" – at this point your height is neither a negative nor a positive in Asia (solid there, not shortish at all) or America, you're not short, average, but on the short end of it. Sounds short despite not being so much (Tom Hardy). You should be fine with a decent face and other things. See above for in Europe. With a tiny skull and scrawny build you can either look 5'7" or with a good build more 5'11".
5'10" – 5'11" – The better end of average and the minimum height to sound manly enough. Solid above average/tallish/tall in Asia (potentially positive), solid average in America and the 5'9" of Europe. Most claim 6'0" at this height. Can be seen as tallish at 5'11" if lanky. Height is solid and shouldn't cause any problems at all.
6'0" – The benchmark of good male height, pretty number to attract wahmen because it's nice and even although the benchmark gets reduced to 180 cm in Europe because "183 ideal" sounds stupid. Tall in Asia, solidly above average/tallish in America, very solid average in Europe and you shouldn't feel short at all at this height anywhere unless in minority regions. Height is a fair positive at this point. You can possibly still not feel "tall" at this point though and your proportions aren't much different to someone, say 5'9". Dating pool is maximum.
6'1" – Solidly tall for a male begins here. Above average pretty much everywhere. You'll be referred to as "the tall guy" often. I visualise most people of this height as lanky for some reason. Your height is solidly advantageous.
6'2" – 6'4" – Always the big guy, perfect height for athletes and girls will be mirin although you can potentially be tall for some short ones. Any taller than this and your life expectancy lowers. You mog most, if not all men. A normie at this height becomes chadlite. Optimal height advantage. 6'3" is start of very tall and the perfect height in Europe.
6'5" – 6'6" – Perfect height to be a mogger but a little bit impractical lifestyle wise and the start of too tall, you can potentially be rejected even though everyone will be mirin (not if you're not built). Height benefits start to wane.
6'6"+ – 7'2" – Extremely tall and people see you as a freak of nature but can mire you from afar. If you're not good looking and well built at this height it's over, but if you are they see you as Adonis. Solidly reduced life expectancy and very impractical lifestyle wise.
7'2"+ – Above minus the benefits.
5'4" and below - subhuman short, 5'5" – 5'8" – normal short, 5'9" – 5'11" – average, 6'0" – tallish, 6'1"+ tall, 6'6"+ too tall
Statistically the optimal height is 6'1" (185 cm) for a male so you want to be as near as possible and not under 5'8" (173 cm). Give or take an inch depending on region. Blackpill: Tom Cruise, Zac Efron and few others are this height and how much does their height get mentioned? Yeah, a lot.
"Over" here doesn't necessarily mean calling involuntary celibacy here since "many short guys get GFs". We're looking at on average chance and likelihood, not taking into account outliers.
Cope
Visit http://celebheights.com for celebrities of similar heights (most accurate source) so you can cope about it, although face > height if looks are equal. Face (6.5+) can halo anything, just go over to Dave Franco's page there and look at people mesmerized by him and trying to guess him higher because they want him to be taller.
How to measure height properly
This chart is only applicable if you're that height actually barefoot, unfrauded. To have your accurate height be measured 4 hours out of bed after normal physical activity under an accurate and sturdy stadiometer. If you don't have one you can use an aerosol and tape measure like this: or see other videos by him.
Height frauding
Most normies don't know their height or just overestimate it, on average exaggerating by 1 – 1.5 inches (make that near 2 and high probability of being called out). Surprisingly you can still actually get some of the fake perceptional benefits of a height by claiming it (5'10" instead of 5'9") although I don't have any data to support it. The thumb rule of exaggeration for this and taking into account probability of being called out seems to be 1 inch (2-3 cm).
Your proportions and other factors canaffect the height people perceive you as. A long vertical skull, relatively long legs (crotch to floor inseam/height ratio between 46 to 49%), deep voice, slightly longer than average neck), imposing and built torso of medium length, longer wingspan can make you seem taller than you are (Benedict Cumberbatch) and the opposite can make you look shorter. Although a very short torso (Giancarlo Esposito) or very long torso, short legs can make you look shorter instead.
Fixes
below 5'4" – over beyond salvation and will be mocked for your height pretty much all the time
5'4" – not over in Asia if you look 4.5+ PSL Caucasian/lighter than average pheno, over beyond salvation elsewhere, prominent heightism and pretty much no one will date you.
5'5" – 5'6" – not over in Asia but definitely no good, small chance of being redeemed with top tier body and above average looks. Will likely face heightism and solid dating disadvantage. If you're brown/ethnic looking at this height or less, you will have a ghetto sort of aura to you and it's definitely over even in Asia unless you're ridiculously good looking. Solidly short.
5'7" – 5'8" – minimum height acceptable for a male to live normally in most places, same as above otherwise but heightism to slightly lesser degree. Disadvantageous height.
5'9" – at this point your height is neither a negative nor a positive in Asia (solid there, not shortish at all) or America, you're not short, average, but on the short end of it. Sounds short despite not being so much (Tom Hardy). You should be fine with a decent face and other things. See above for in Europe. With a tiny skull and scrawny build you can either look 5'7" or with a good build more 5'11".
5'10" – 5'11" – The better end of average and the minimum height to sound manly enough. Solid above average/tallish/tall in Asia (potentially positive), solid average in America and the 5'9" of Europe. Most claim 6'0" at this height. Can be seen as tallish at 5'11" if lanky. Height is solid and shouldn't cause any problems at all.
6'0" – The benchmark of good male height, pretty number to attract wahmen because it's nice and even although the benchmark gets reduced to 180 cm in Europe because "183 ideal" sounds stupid. Tall in Asia, solidly above average/tallish in America, very solid average in Europe and you shouldn't feel short at all at this height anywhere unless in minority regions. Height is a fair positive at this point. You can possibly still not feel "tall" at this point though and your proportions aren't much different to someone, say 5'9". Dating pool is maximum.
6'1" – Solidly tall for a male begins here. Above average pretty much everywhere. You'll be referred to as "the tall guy" often. I visualise most people of this height as lanky for some reason. Your height is solidly advantageous.
6'2" – 6'4" – Always the big guy, perfect height for athletes and girls will be mirin although you can potentially be tall for some short ones. Any taller than this and your life expectancy lowers. You mog most, if not all men. A normie at this height becomes chadlite. Optimal height advantage. 6'3" is start of very tall and the perfect height in Europe.
6'5" – 6'6" – Perfect height to be a mogger but a little bit impractical lifestyle wise and the start of too tall, you can potentially be rejected even though everyone will be mirin (not if you're not built). Height benefits start to wane.
6'6"+ – 7'2" – Extremely tall and people see you as a freak of nature but can mire you from afar. If you're not good looking and well built at this height it's over, but if you are they see you as Adonis. Solidly reduced life expectancy and very impractical lifestyle wise.
7'2"+ – Above minus the benefits.
5'4" and below - subhuman short, 5'5" – 5'8" – normal short, 5'9" – 5'11" – average, 6'0" – tallish, 6'1"+ tall, 6'6"+ too tall
Statistically the optimal height is 6'1" (185 cm) for a male so you want to be as near as possible and not under 5'8" (173 cm). Give or take an inch depending on region. Blackpill: Tom Cruise, Zac Efron and few others are this height and how much does their height get mentioned? Yeah, a lot.
"Over" here doesn't necessarily mean calling involuntary celibacy here since "many short guys get GFs". We're looking at on average chance and likelihood, not taking into account outliers.
Cope
Visit http://celebheights.com for celebrities of similar heights (most accurate source) so you can cope about it, although face > height if looks are equal. Face (6.5+) can halo anything, just go over to Dave Franco's page there and look at people mesmerized by him and trying to guess him higher because they want him to be taller.
How to measure height properly
This chart is only applicable if you're that height actually barefoot, unfrauded. To have your accurate height be measured 4 hours out of bed after normal physical activity under an accurate and sturdy stadiometer. If you don't have one you can use an aerosol and tape measure like this: or see other videos by him.
Height frauding
Most normies don't know their height or just overestimate it, on average exaggerating by 1 – 1.5 inches (make that near 2 and high probability of being called out). Surprisingly you can still actually get some of the fake perceptional benefits of a height by claiming it (5'10" instead of 5'9") although I don't have any data to support it. The thumb rule of exaggeration for this and taking into account probability of being called out seems to be 1 inch (2-3 cm).
Your proportions and other factors canaffect the height people perceive you as. A long vertical skull, relatively long legs (crotch to floor inseam/height ratio between 46 to 49%), deep voice, slightly longer than average neck), imposing and built torso of medium length, longer wingspan can make you seem taller than you are (Benedict Cumberbatch) and the opposite can make you look shorter. Although a very short torso (Giancarlo Esposito) or very long torso, short legs can make you look shorter instead.
Fixes
- Elevator shoes - https://donsfootwear.com/en/ or https://www.chamaripashoes.com/ are some good brands. You want to avoid suspicious looking bulky footwear to avoid being caught as a comedic manlet trying hard and try not to go for more than models of more than 2" extra height. I don't see why you shouldn't wear them no matter how tall you are, a good boost and feels good to be taller, unless you're already 6'3". Even if you're caught wearing them, try to be indifferent and own up to it instead of being embarrassed and appearing beta as fuck. Women wear high heels, why not manlets?
- Glucosamine sulphate and posturemaxxing – Can give you a few mms and if you have scoliosis, lordosis, anterior pelvic tilt try to fix them as they're robbing you of a few significant inches that can determine how over it is.
- Leg lengthening – Definitely recommend this to goblincels and richcels under 5'7". Visit http://limblengtheningforum.com/ for more information but as a thumb rule, definitely try to use Precice Stryde because it has the best recovery and any other method is potentially agonizing and go to a good doctor like Dr. Paley, Dr. Rozbruch, Dr. Mahboubian, Dr. Parihar, Dr. Betz or Dr. Giotikas. Do not go to India (except Parihar) or Russia at all costs. Remember, safety > height. You can add 2 – 6 inches depending on finances, proportions and patience.
- Or other heightmaxxing threads here if growth plates haven't fused.
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