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I've seen many people on here interested in this. I learned a lot about this since I studied alot of this to go into pharma. Long read btw but very very informative for anyone actually interested in learning, I'm ready for the DNR replies lol
1. MK677
Youll often see people saying things like MK677 can increase height especially here. For 99.9% of people it will not. Yes, it will help nearly double your baseline GH levels but you will have the same bloat as with HGH, with barley 5% the results. Yes you can grow IN THEORY but will you? Probably not. You are better off not taking it then risking getting diabetes from it (yes it is a side).
2. Additional Sups
CHATGPT lol
Here are some supplements that may support natural growth (especially if growth plates are still open):
What I've seen that most people don't understand that injecting majority of exogenous hormones will lead to the surpression of natural production. What does this mean? If you inject GH, your body will lower natural production, if you inject test, your body will lower natural production. Why? Because of something called a negative feedback loop. Your body sees that it has an excess of whatever it is you are supplementing and stops production (in simple terms).
There are exceptions of course, however this means that once you stop taking, your body will take some time to recover to your previous, natural levels. Sometimes, you will not recover at all which is why many bodybuilders resort to taking HRT or TRT for the remainder of their lives, just to be able to get hard or retain muscle, which comes with its own list of sides.
Knowing this, you should know that this could happen to you and if for some reason you decide to stop, you might not grow anymore since unlike with test where something called a PCT exists, nothing as such exists with HGH. Finally, while everyone is different, HGH injection won't make you 6'5 chad with bonemass of an african silverback gorrila. It isn't some miracle drug where you will grow 8 inches in 1 year of usage. No, you wont go from 5'8 to 6'3. You might be able to add on 2-3 inches AT MOST. Again, everyone is different, so take what I say with a grain of salt. Maybe you will grow to be 6'9 who knows.
You should know, sleep, diet and lifestyle will all have much more result than this. If you are sleeping at 2 am and waking up at 8 am for school and wondering why you are not growing, don't even continue reading lol. If you are fat and excess estrogen is being converted, get your health in line.
You much have all 3 in check before you even attempt to read this. This guide should only be used as a boost to those already doing everything else correctly.
There are exceptions of course, however this means that once you stop taking, your body will take some time to recover to your previous, natural levels. Sometimes, you will not recover at all which is why many bodybuilders resort to taking HRT or TRT for the remainder of their lives, just to be able to get hard or retain muscle, which comes with its own list of sides.
Knowing this, you should know that this could happen to you and if for some reason you decide to stop, you might not grow anymore since unlike with test where something called a PCT exists, nothing as such exists with HGH. Finally, while everyone is different, HGH injection won't make you 6'5 chad with bonemass of an african silverback gorrila. It isn't some miracle drug where you will grow 8 inches in 1 year of usage. No, you wont go from 5'8 to 6'3. You might be able to add on 2-3 inches AT MOST. Again, everyone is different, so take what I say with a grain of salt. Maybe you will grow to be 6'9 who knows.
You should know, sleep, diet and lifestyle will all have much more result than this. If you are sleeping at 2 am and waking up at 8 am for school and wondering why you are not growing, don't even continue reading lol. If you are fat and excess estrogen is being converted, get your health in line.
You much have all 3 in check before you even attempt to read this. This guide should only be used as a boost to those already doing everything else correctly.
First of all you should know if your growth plates are open or not. You can check if your growth plates by getting an x-ray. On an X-ray, growth plates appear as dark lines at the ends of the bones. In the final stages of growth, when the cartilage has hardened into bone, these dark lines are no longer visible on the X-ray. At this point, the growth plates are considered closed. For most males (99% of the ppl reading this), they close between 15-17, but abnormalities exist, I've seen up to 25..
If they are closed, you will not grow a single cm for the rest of your life without LLS (leg lengthening surgery). Anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or its cope. You can stop reading this now and instead focus on other aspects of your life or save up the 100k needed for LLS.
If they are open, good job. You still have a chance to grow. When you get the x-ray the scan will probably tell you your bone age. If it is behind your current age, you have more time, if it is above you will have less - you can delay the closure by using an AI (aromatase inhibitor - more on this later). Knowing this, you can move onto PT2.
If they are closed, you will not grow a single cm for the rest of your life without LLS (leg lengthening surgery). Anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or its cope. You can stop reading this now and instead focus on other aspects of your life or save up the 100k needed for LLS.
If they are open, good job. You still have a chance to grow. When you get the x-ray the scan will probably tell you your bone age. If it is behind your current age, you have more time, if it is above you will have less - you can delay the closure by using an AI (aromatase inhibitor - more on this later). Knowing this, you can move onto PT2.
Honestly, this depends on many factors (the person, where you live, money). But as a general standpoint, this will cost money/it will not be cheap. Some may be slightly higher or lower but consider that a known source sells HGH 10x10iu vials 2 kits, each kit at $75. You should also add in the price for bacteriostatic water, needles.
1. AI
First off, and maybe most importantly is you want to delay the closure of your growth plates. You can do this by taking an AI. The three most common are
First off, and maybe most importantly is you want to delay the closure of your growth plates. You can do this by taking an AI. The three most common are
- Arimidex
- Aromasin
With Letrozole being the most powerful, Arimidex being a middle ground, and Aromasin being the least potent. Arimidex and Letrozole are non-steroidal reversible inhibitors, while Aromasin is a steroidal irreversible inhibitor. It means Arimidex and Letrozole temporarily block estrogen production, while Aromasin permanently disables the enzyme that makes estrogen. Meaning, if you stop Arimidex or Letrozole, estrogen production usually resumes. With Aromasin, it may take longer, but production can still recover over time.
Personally, I take 1mg Arimidex every 3rd day. The important thing to note is that you don't want to NUKE your estrogen to zero since its responsible for many systems and even brain development. We just want to lower how much is converted from testosterone which will delay the time growth plates take to close.
2. GH
You will need to find a high quality, reputable source. You dont want your HGH to be bunk or even worse something that could harm you. There are lots of sources, many people say "I live in eastern EU its impossible to find" but dont rope yet. There are always sources everywhere. Sweden has some of the harshest laws about roids use, police can come into gyms and drug test you, yet you will still see guys on gear there. So yes, it may be harder, but it does exist if you look hard enough. If you live in NA it is very easy to source but there are many bunk products so as I mentioned, make sure its not fake. Often, real sources provide Janoshik testing which is generally the gold standard and you can mostly trust these sources.
As for dosage, its generally said you would want over 4IU per day to see results. For a 60 kg person, daily HGH dose is typically 6 to 8 IU (0.1 to 0.3 IU/kg). - Chatgpt. It should also be noted that you might want to inject lower amounts per injection, multiple times a day. Multiple smaller daily HGH injections mimic natural hormone pulses, improving effectiveness and reducing side effects.
I wont into detail on how to pin, there are so many guides out there, even here so just search it up lol.
Personally, I take 1mg Arimidex every 3rd day. The important thing to note is that you don't want to NUKE your estrogen to zero since its responsible for many systems and even brain development. We just want to lower how much is converted from testosterone which will delay the time growth plates take to close.
2. GH
You will need to find a high quality, reputable source. You dont want your HGH to be bunk or even worse something that could harm you. There are lots of sources, many people say "I live in eastern EU its impossible to find" but dont rope yet. There are always sources everywhere. Sweden has some of the harshest laws about roids use, police can come into gyms and drug test you, yet you will still see guys on gear there. So yes, it may be harder, but it does exist if you look hard enough. If you live in NA it is very easy to source but there are many bunk products so as I mentioned, make sure its not fake. Often, real sources provide Janoshik testing which is generally the gold standard and you can mostly trust these sources.
As for dosage, its generally said you would want over 4IU per day to see results. For a 60 kg person, daily HGH dose is typically 6 to 8 IU (0.1 to 0.3 IU/kg). - Chatgpt. It should also be noted that you might want to inject lower amounts per injection, multiple times a day. Multiple smaller daily HGH injections mimic natural hormone pulses, improving effectiveness and reducing side effects.
I wont into detail on how to pin, there are so many guides out there, even here so just search it up lol.
Most people dont even really care but there are dangerous side effects for both.
1. HGH
Btw, these are only some of the potentials, there are many more. If you are fine with these risks, move on..
1. HGH
- Suppressed Natural HGH Production – Due to negative feedback; recovery may be slow or incomplete after stopping.
- Acromegaly (in adults or prolonged high doses) – Abnormal bone growth in hands, feet, jaw.
- Edema – Water retention, swelling in hands/feet.
- Joint and Muscle Pain – Common at higher doses.
- Insulin Resistance / Increased Blood Sugar – Risk of type 2 diabetes with long-term use.
- Carpal Tunnel Syndrome – Numbness or pain in hands/wrists.
- Headaches – Linked to increased intracranial pressure.
- Organ Growth – Enlarged heart, kidneys, etc., with prolonged abuse.
- Estrogen Crash – Can cause fatigue, low libido, depression, brain fog.
- Bone Density Loss – Estrogen is essential for bone maintenance.
- Impaired Cholesterol Profile – Lower HDL ("good" cholesterol).
- Joint Pain and Dryness – Common with strong AIs like Letrozole.
Btw, these are only some of the potentials, there are many more. If you are fine with these risks, move on..
Youll often see people saying things like MK677 can increase height especially here. For 99.9% of people it will not. Yes, it will help nearly double your baseline GH levels but you will have the same bloat as with HGH, with barley 5% the results. Yes you can grow IN THEORY but will you? Probably not. You are better off not taking it then risking getting diabetes from it (yes it is a side).
2. Additional Sups
CHATGPT lol
Here are some supplements that may support natural growth (especially if growth plates are still open):
- Vitamin D3 – Supports bone health and growth hormone function.
- Zinc – Essential for growth, hormone production, and immune function.
- Magnesium – Helps with sleep, recovery, and hormone balance.
- Calcium – Supports bone development.
- Arginine & Ornithine – May slightly boost natural HGH levels.
- L-lysine – Often combined with arginine for synergistic effect.
- Melatonin – Improves sleep quality, which enhances natural HGH release.
- GABA – May stimulate HGH production during sleep.
- Ashwagandha – Supports stress reduction and hormone balance.
- Multivitamin – To fill any nutrient gaps.
The number 1 thing is consistency. This is not a overnight thing, not even a monthly thing. You will probably need 6+ months to see results. It costs a lot. If your parents are not on board with this it might be difficult to do, maybe impossible. You are always at risk of the sides, maybe 30 years down the line you will get cancer because of this, who knows. We are not cancermaxxing so be aware of the risks, and proceed knowing them..
Also here is a great thread with more info:
https://looksmax.org/threads/hgh-101-everything-you-need-to-know.1423722/
Also here is a great thread with more info:
https://looksmax.org/threads/hgh-101-everything-you-need-to-know.1423722/
