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[Marsiere214]

I believe since God is a just God, everyone was and will be given an equal chance to turn to God, with their situations not having an impact on their choice (100% equal). this is hard for us to comprehend, as we cannot understand how Jesus offers these chances equally. But he is just. Read more on this as well:
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i really need to debate with Christians
i swear the more i read about Christianity the more i feel like turning away from Christianity (no offense)
(in a polite way)

 

[Feminineboi]

Only people who turn to Jesus receive his spirit, that dwells within them. And as you probably know... us believers face a different type of conviction, more intense than that of a random person who feels a moral, earthly conviction, upon doing something bad.

I began feeling convicted whenever I would lie, only when I became a christian. i didn't experience this before.


You're correct. I'm not saying the Bible isn't God's words through the apostles. I am saying that we should give preference to listening the holy spirit MORE, than the book. You see, any Muslim or atheist can read the bible, but they can twist it for their own deeds/beliefs.

The Bible on it's own is nothing powerful, but mere anecdotal evidence to give Christians an 'insight' to what holy living is and about the prophecies of Jesus' return, judgement, etc. HOWEVER, the conviction of the holy spirit is something nobody other than a true Christian could experience.

This is why I kinda discourage people form always being scripture nerds and not turning to the Holy Spirit (which is God).

Those who simply 'pray' for hours aren't doing any good to them, although it is nice. A true Christian keeps god's commandments and blesses those who persecute him... regardless of the fact of whether how many hours he sits with a book, or in prayer. lip confessions mean nothing unless they are followed with a mature repentance... demonstrated through your actions and behavior.



If you will truly follow Jesus, the temptations will get less stronger and you will feel less tempted to feel dead serious. You will be victorious over sin, just like Jesus, by the end of your life. Listen to me. It's all about your willpower and what choice you make now.

My problem is I have never been able to hear the holy spirit and/or have it guide me. I've always felt like the good I've done has been because of the morals my parents have taught me. Don't get me wrong, I like doing good. It's just that I've never consciously linked my actions to the holy spirit's doing.

Just like you, I've also experienced the same feelings of convictions. I fail to discern whether or not they haunt me on account of the Holy Spirit, or rather a deeply engrained message engraved upon me by my upbringing.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

This sounds like cope ngl, all chads are being hedonistic and sleeping with as many girls as they can right now, why the fuck did God gave them good looks then

 

[Feminineboi]

So why does God allows people to ascend then
Amnesia was born ugly, got surgery and now looks like a model and slays like crazy

Because God gave freewill to everyone, what amnesia does is by his own accord

 

[Marsiere214]

@john2
@Feminineboi
why cant all powerful jesus forgive someones sins after they die?

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Because God gave freewill to everyone, what amnesia does is by his own accord

But what is the point then
If God made him Ugly to prevent him from being hedonistic then why God allowed him to become GL

 

[Feminineboi]

i really need to debate with Christians
i swear the more i read about Christianity the more i feel like turning away from Christianity (no offense)
(in a polite way)

Tell me, why do you feel like turning away?

 

[Marsiere214]

Tell me, why do you feel like turning away?

i was always away
i my grandparent was a luciferian
but lucifer offers much more benefits than jesus
he shows signs of being more powerful than him too
after all satan was able to convince most of the world population to follow him

 

[Deleted member 5189]

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[Feminineboi]

But what is the point then
If God made him Ugly to prevent him from being hedonistic then why God allowed him to become GL

God doesn't make people ugly to prevent them from hedonism, thats a little silly. Christians are taught God gives different people different gifts and to not be envious of eachother.

Also, once conceived, the mother can have an effect on the child's looks and so can the environment outside the womb.

The biblical God doesn't place as much importance into the looks depertment as we do

 

[Feminineboi]

i was always away
i my grandparent was a luciferian
but lucifer offers much more benefits than jesus
he shows signs of being more powerful than him too
after all satan was able to convince most of the world population to follow him

If there's one thing that keeps me believing in God, it's the spiritual world and how dangerous it is. Tread very carefully in dealings with anything satanic. I myself have seen a spirit (a woman with long black hair that appeared all white, with no face, standing in front of my closet) 7 feet or so in front of me in bed. I freaked out like crazy, sat there in shock, and slowly sat up to turn my lights on. As I was doing so, it moved into my closet. Satanism is no joke

 

[Marsiere214]

If there's one thing that keeps me believing in God, it's the spiritual world and how dangerous it is. Tread very carefully in dealings with anything satanic. I myself have seen a spirit (a woman with long black hair that appeared all white, with no face, standing in front of my closet) 7 feet or so in front of me in bed. I freaked out like crazy, sat there in shock, and slowly sat up to turn my lights on. As I was doing so, it moved into my closet. Satanism is no joke

i know my grandma was a satanist
i guess its like inherited religion
i do mess with spirits. infact, i used to talk to one as a kid.
but its always good to be careful

 

[Feminineboi]

i know my grandma was a satanist
i guess its like inherited religion
i do mess with spirits. infact, i used to talk to one as a kid.
but its always good to be careful

Good lord man, stay away from that. How did you end up christian?

 

[Marsiere214]

Good lord man, stay away from that. How did you end up christian?

im not christian
officially im not
im trying to convert but i cant

 

[Feminineboi]

im not christian
officially im not
im trying to convert but i cant

What called you to the religion?

 

[Marsiere214]

What called you to the religion?

i dont know it was when i found out about christianity that i realized to who i was talking to
but it was too late, it was modern music that did.
I did a ritual (black mass) where u read the bible upside down from the last word and letter and you give up christianity
i did much more. i got spells casted on me at this point.

satanists always say ur born into it

 

[Deleted member 1338]

Yeah.

But the poor and ugly guy has the choice to sin or not at the end.
If he fails to resist temptation he will burn. The same goes with the gl, rich guy.


There's a question among every non believer that 'if there are so many denominations... which one is right?'

The thing is that actually... at the end, those who followed Jesus (the good shepherd) and obeyed him... will be saved. No matter what denomination they are of. If he tells you to leave something, or stop doing something in your life, you obey. Those who rebel will perish.

So many Christians are 'men of the book' and Idolize the Bible, when in fact Jesus is God's true word. They would rather turn to the Bible, than the holy spirit, which dwells within them for conviction and guidance.

"Is masturbation a sin?... oh well, the Bible says nothing about it... so lemme keep jerking off". Just lol at this.

The true followers of Christ form the TRUE body of the ONE TRUE CHURCH. Not the so called 'catholic church' or anything else.

God You are such a tool!!!

 

[randomuser2407]

Religions didn't exist back in the prehistoric age, that is because they were invented by humans later on to control other humans and create stable mind controlled societies where nobody has free will. I'm glad that Christian churches have lost their power over the years because their methods go against what makes us human. Having sex, having wild fantasies, having pride and having the desire to improve yourself to get access to a better life, all those things should never be seen as sins.

Religions are just coping mechanisms, spineless losers pray instead of taking action in trying to change their life, they beg a false god to fix their problems because they are too lazy to do it themselves. Religions also create division by telling people that they must follow the rules even if it goes against their own needs, desires and what makes them happy. It is because of Christianity that black people were treated like they were not even human, and it's because of Christianity and Islam that there is homophobia. However, the Pagans, the Greeks, and even the Romans weren't homophobic at all.

I could list even more reasons why I hate and don't respect religions. I don't judge or mock those who are religious though (as long as they don't shove it in my face).

Also, if there is a hell, we are already in it. As for the theories about death, I follow the science not the man made stories about a man that never even existed. The big bang is more real and important than any god of any religion. In a way, science is my religion, which may not be very surprising since after all, I was tested at an IQ of 120.

 

[Feminineboi]

i dont know it was when i found out about christianity that i realized to who i was talking to
but it was too late, it was modern music that did.
I did a ritual (black mass) where u read the bible upside down from the last word and letter and you give up christianity
i did much more. i got spells casted on me at this point.

satanists always say ur born into it

Remember, it's never too late to turn to Christianity. Saul (later named paul) denounced and hated God, killing tons and tons of Christians. God still forgave him, and saul become Christian.

Judas betrayed Jesus, turning him into the romans for money, Jesus was crucified, and yet still forgave Judas.

There is not one single sin that is irredeemable in the eyes of God.

My pastor once spoke of a woman who attends our church (he kept her identity a secret at her wish) who used to be a Wiccan. She saw the cross upon our church and felt something, she repented and was baptized through the Holy spirit.

Don't ever think it's too late, because it's not.

Admittedly, what you did was not good. But this is why Jesus died on the Cross, to forgive us our sins.
He forgives you, do not forget that

 

[Marsiere214]

Remember, it's never too late to turn to Christianity. Saul (later named paul) denounced and hated God, killing tons and tons of Christians. God still forgave him, and saul become Christian.

Judas betrayed Jesus, turning him into the romans for money, Jesus was crucified, and yet still forgave Judas.

There is not one single sin that is irredeemable in the eyes of God.

My pastor once spoke of a woman who attends our church (he kept her identity a secret at her wish) who used to be a Wiccan. She saw the cross upon our church and felt something, she repented and was baptized through the Holy spirit.

Don't ever think it's too late, because it's not.

Admittedly, what you did was not good. But this is why Jesus died on the Cross, to forgive us our sins.
He forgives you, do not forget that

but
i dont feel like converting
i want to do it in my brain
but i cant get it emotionally. I grew up with lucifer afterall.
i keep trying but nothing works. Its so bad to the point where i get headaches and stomach pain and a weird feeling on my hands when entering a church

 

[Feminineboi]

@Marsiere214 notice how communities that live through God's are peaceful. Look at the world now: whoredom/adultery is tolerated, blasphemy is encouraged, false idols are worshipped, jealousy/envy ensues, and the like.

 

[Marsiere214]

@Marsiere214 notice how communities that live through God's are peaceful. Look at the world now: whoredom/adultery is tolerated, blasphemy is encouraged, false idols are worshipped, jealousy/envy ensues, and the like.

that dosent solve the problem rather proves whos more powerful

 

[Feminineboi]

but
i dont feel like converting
i want to do it in my brain
but i cant get it emotionally. I grew up with lucifer afterall.
i keep trying but nothing works. Its so bad to the point where i get headaches and stomach pain and a weird feeling on my hands when entering a church

I'll message you in pms

 

[Feminineboi]

that dosent solve the problem rather proves whos more powerful

Power does not equal good

 

[Marsiere214]

Power does not equal good

i'll answer ur pms tomorrow gn

 

[Deleted member 5385]

Alright... I'll try to be as nice as I could now.



What you wrote was a bunch of 20th century heresy of 'Annihilationism' that got it's way in the church. It preaches that sinners who go to hell will rather be wiped out forever, they'll cease to exist and suffer in hell.

This is nothing but a comforting lie to tell you 'oh, who cares... if i don't make it to heaven, i'll simply cease to exist... i'll just suffer for another time before being vanished out forever'.

If hell isn't eternal, then why should heaven be eternal???

Hell is in fact, eternal. The fire burns there forever and so do the lost souls. The same way you have eternal life (in God's presence). There are many verses in the Bible which describe about an eternal place of torment. I can pull them out to support it.
We were created in the image of God, the most highest of all honors. God is eternal and so is your soul.

If you -

• fail to fully repent from your sins, no matter whether you call yourself a 'christian' or an 'atheist' (or whatever) AND
• fail to receive the forgiveness of the crimes (aka sins) you have committed against the one true, Eternal Lord, from the only person who can forgive a man's sins (aka Jesus Christ who is God himself).

... then I am sorry....

You will burn and weep forever in hell, begging for mercy... praying and fasting in hell for a single moment of relief from the everlasting fire.

The "God is love" is such a misunderstood doctrine. Sure, Jesus is the lamb of God. But he also known as the Lion of Judah... due to his just and righteous nature, which makes him intolerant towards sin. God is loving in the sense that - He is ready to forgive you of all your sins and help you repent from your sinful life DURING your lifetime... so that you will not face the wrathful side of his nature (on the day of judgement).

And how merciful is the Lord...
He is letting you live and give you a chance to prove your repentance... EVEN though you are constantly sinning against him every day.
You know what happened with Lucifer? He sinned only once and then he was judged for all of eternity. he didn't even get a chance to repent or ask for forgiveness. Hell was created for him and the angels who rebelled against God, with him. So you are VERY fortunate.

Jesus is loving in the sense that he has paid the penalty for your sins and has made a way for you to come to him and have eternal life. And that way is also known as the narrow path. If you aren't walking on the narrow path... you are walking along with the world who is on it's way to eternal hellfire.

Those souls crying Jesus' name in hell have no more sacrifice left to save them... since they are forever condemned now. Nothing could save them from their everlasting misery. Only hopelessness and intensifying pain is left for them to bear for all of eternity.

This is why you should repent and work out your own salvation with fear and trembling ~ Philippians 2:12. @Gargantuan, @Kingkellz .

I am sorry , but trying to find the truth is do hard especially those days. If you think about me I already repent to Jezus to save my soul and life ...
To me it doesn't matter if hell is temporary or eternal cause I want eternal life on heaven enough to feel bad and repent for my sins.
Same some catholics can say that rapture is a 19 century doctrine but actually rapture is really good "doctrine" cause it motivates people to have sinless life close to Jezus Christ.

 

[john2]

that dosent solve the problem rather proves whos more powerful

People give into the devil's temptations... people are weak. So is satan, in front of God.
Lol, if he was all powerful, then he would have overthrown Elohim himself when he rebelled in heaven.

My problem is I have never been able to hear the holy spirit and/or have it guide me. I've always felt like the good I've done has been because of the morals my parents have taught me. Don't get me wrong, I like doing good. It's just that I've never consciously linked my actions to the holy spirit's doing.

Just like you, I've also experienced the same feelings of convictions. I fail to discern whether or not they haunt me on account of the Holy Spirit, or rather a deeply engrained message engraved upon me by my upbringing.

Your case is much better since the holy spirit's conviction goes hand in hand with your upbringing. You should continue living in holiness. God will answer your prayers (which are spiritually beneficial for you). The holy spirit doesn't speak audibly btw. It speaks spiritually and it will evoke your consciousness before or after you commit a sin. Make sure that you are truly born again and have a relationship with YAH.

@john2
@Feminineboi
why cant all powerful jesus forgive someones sins after they die?

Because after you die, it is too late and judgement will have fallen on you. Jesus already gives people a chance to repent...but if they refuse, the won't be saved. Just because Jesus is powerful doesn't mean he'll turn a blind eye to the sinner's crime and unrighteous-ly save him.

So why does God allows people to ascend then
Amnesia was born ugly, got surgery and now looks like a model and slays like crazy

Wdym 'why does god allows people to ascend' ???
God won't intervene magically and stop you from doing whatever you please. He won't mess with your free will at all. If you want to sin, go on and do it... let me warn you that there are eternal consequences to it, however. That's @Amnesia 's choice that he's ascended and is slaying. I'm pretty sure he's a Christian too.

Judas betrayed Jesus, turning him into the romans for money, Jesus was crucified, and yet still forgave Judas.

Judas is in hell, from what I discern. He literally roped, rather than repenting. I could be wrong, but we'll find out once we die.

i keep trying but nothing works. Its so bad to the point where i get headaches and stomach pain and a weird feeling on my hands when entering a church

Lol, that's Lucifer trying to keep you away from God so that he can deceive you in hell and torture you for all of eternity. He wants to win your soul. Go to a pastor/exorcist if you can, be baptized and saved. The demons will be cast out of you and you'll love God. The devil will give you whatever you want in this life... he can seem powerful... but he is the deceiver, he'll ruin your eternal fate. Open your eyes.

 

[Deleted member 5385]

People give into the devil's temptations... people are weak. So is satan, in front of God.
Lol, if he was all powerful, then he would have overthrown Elohim himself when he rebelled in heaven.


Your case is much better since the holy spirit's conviction goes hand in hand with your upbringing. You should continue living in holiness. God will answer your prayers (which are spiritually beneficial for you). The holy spirit doesn't speak audibly btw. It speaks spiritually and it will evoke your consciousness before or after you commit a sin. Make sure that you are truly born again and have a relationship with YAH.


Because after you die, it is too late and judgement will have fallen on you. Jesus already gives people a chance to repent...but if they refuse, the won't be saved. Just because Jesus is powerful doesn't mean he'll turn a blind eye to the sinner's crime and unrighteous-ly save him.


Wdym 'why does god allows people to ascend' ???
God won't intervene magically and stop you from doing whatever you please. He won't mess with your free will at all. If you want to sin, go on and do it... let me warn you that there are eternal consequences to it, however. That's @Amnesia 's choice that he's ascended and is slaying. I'm pretty sure he's a Christian too.


Judas is in hell, from what I discern. He literally roped, rather than repenting. I could be wrong, but we'll find out once we die.


Lol, that's Lucifer trying to keep you away from God so that he can deceive you in hell and torture you for all of eternity. He wants to win your soul. Go to a pastor/exorcist if you can, be baptized and saved. The demons will be cast out of you and you'll love God. The devil will give you whatever you want in this life... he can seem powerful... but he is the deceiver, he'll ruin your eternal fate. Open your eyes.

I agree with all except two
- Amnesia is definietly not a christian, he put most of his effort into having casual sex and them describe this with details on this forum. Everyone is disgusted by homosexuals but he do exacly the same- have casual sex and many sexual partners, if you think this is Christian behaviour... Its like saying Lady Gaga or Katy Perry are Christians because once they said pray to God and after show their naked body and satanic symbols in their music
- Only what Lucifer can give you is material wealth like in music industry, Hollywood etc. He can't give you hapiness, powers( only material power not like controlling elements of nature etc.) and he won't give you that what most users here would sold soul for APPERANCE! Devil won't give you shorter midface, wide clavicles and narrow hips, hunter eyes, forward growth and all this what makes you look handsome, only God would give you that and he will after death if you Reach heaven when you will get new body which will be perfect

 

[john2]

I agree with all except two
- Amnesia is definietly not a christian, he put most of his effort into having casual sex and them describe this with details on this forum. Everyone is disgusted by homosexuals but he do exacly the same- have casual sex and many sexual partners, if you think this is Christian behaviour... Its like saying Lady Gaga or Katy Perry are Christians because once they said pray to God and after show their naked body and satanic symbols in their music
- Only what Lucifer can give you is material wealth like in music industry, Hollywood etc. He can't give you hapiness, powers( only material power not like controlling elements of nature etc.) and he won't give you that what most users here would sold soul for APPERANCE! Devil won't give you shorter midface, wide clavicles and narrow hips, hunter eyes, forward growth and all this what makes you look handsome, only God would give you that and he will after death if you Reach heaven when you will get new body which will be perfect

I completely agree with both of the points you posted tbh.

You can't be a slayer (((adulterer/fornicator))) and a true Christian at once. So yeah, Amnesia is lukewarm. And yes, you may get material wealth and power... but you won't get true happiness from Lucifer, only God can give you that.

 

[Deleted member 5385]

Bumo cause interesting

 

[Secretariat12]

There are no gods or afterlife jfl at this afterlife cope.

 

[Gazzamogga]

All I know is that if it's real, it will be just as muhhumad said: 99% full of women.

It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allah ibn ‘Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I was shown Hell and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it. And I saw that the majority of its people are women.” They said, “Why, O Messenger of Allah?” He said, “Because of their ingratitude (kufr).” It was said, “Are they ungrateful to Allah?” He said, “They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, ‘I have never had anything good from you.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1052)

 

[Golang]

Didn’t read, if God was loving he wouldn’t have made ethnics

 

[Golang]

It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allah ibn ‘Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I was shown Hell and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it. And I saw that the majority of its people are women.” They said, “Why, O Messenger of Allah?” He said, “Because of their ingratitude (kufr).” It was said, “Are they ungrateful to Allah?” He said, “They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, ‘I have never had anything good from you.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1052)

Arabs knew their women were white men’s whore back then

 

[Lasko123]

i dont know it was when i found out about christianity that i realized to who i was talking to
but it was too late, it was modern music that did.
I did a ritual (black mass) where u read the bible upside down from the last word and letter and you give up christianity
i did much more. i got spells casted on me at this point.

satanists always say ur born into it

 

[Marsiere214]

A Call For An Uprising

If you have ever had a feeling in the pit of your stomach that something was seriously wrong with the world that we live in, but you couldn't figure out what...

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[Black Pill Prophet]

So much wrong with this post.