help hardstuck hmtn fix some flaws - apologies for the low effort formatting but any tips are greatly appreciated

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Here's the list. - btw i know this account was made recently but i've been on the forum since ************* leaked it back in 2023 so i know quite a lot of shit i wouldnt call myself a newgen. (regardless of all my flaws when i do a few softmaxxes before going out i am EASILY in hmtn territory and i want to fix these to ensure that i will reach htn.) any pharmacutical advice or compounds you may recommend would be appreciated too since that is the one part of lm that I have very little knowledge about since ive never considered it.

-I UNDERSTAND THAT SEEING MY FACE WOULD BE EASIER HOWEVER I AM NOT POSTING IT DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T DELETE THREADS. if you would like to see my face than add me on discord - woghitter44

ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO READ ALL OF THIS, YOU COULD SIMPLY READ ONLY ONE FLAW AND PROVIDE ANY THREAD/ADVICE AND IT WOULD BE HUGELY APPRECIATED. - im looking for high iq threads and advice though please don't provide water advice because I'm most likely aware of it.

-poor zygo projection both laterally and forwards

-my chin projection isnt necessarily a flaw but i need much more

-ik this is the same bs that all retard 14 year olds ask but any tips that truly work for forward growth of the maxilla and ccw rotation for better nasal tip projection and a shorter midface would be HUGELY APPRECIATED.

-VERY NARROW PALATE AND AIRWAYS, LIKELY THE REASON FOR MY SLIGHT DOWNGROWTH ALTHOUGH NOW I AM BARELY DOWNGROWN - i am unable to mew

-absolutely FUCKED my septum and cartilage by pushing my nasal tip temporarily to make it appear more upturned ( i am trying to get a septoplasty in the next 3 months) im 15 5months so this is a huge problem - assymetrical pressure from nasal breathing resulting in my left side being more developed than my right.
-slightly downgrown maxilla and therefore my nose isnt upturned like my mothers
-not much bonemass, nothing in my face is particularly striking except for my eye area on some days. (t50cel though)

-inward gonions, negative hooding on eyes, my sclera isnt white however i have a great thread for fixing it and it is working.

fairly narrow lips although they are ideal otherwise and i have a prominent cupids bow - i will thumbpull laterally to hopefully gain some width and potentially create microtears with a blade for a few mm of lip width.

-im pretty aware of most softmaxes honestly, i'd only say my colouring is a flaw since im a browncel. i will order kojic acid and alpha arbutin serum to lighten and use coloured contacts, fix my sclera and that should be enough.

i have started chewing on my premolars( its given promising results on my right regardless of inconsistency), doing suture loosening techniques, i will start thumbpulling soon idgaf if its cope - i got rpe rejected by 3 orthos when i was 14, i could potentially get marpe at 17 however regardless of poor habits and mouth breathing every night, my maxilla is not recessed at all, only slightly downgrown and i want that projection as it could definitely put me in htn territory.

i have a gym membership obviously im not training super hard but i would like a decent frame because my clavicles are pretty wide

only 5'9, i can fraud 5'10.5 with shoes and i could try lifts but i would like to reach 6'0 - my parents aren't short.

btw my parents have fed me pretty well growing up and ensured good habits (except oral ones) thus i am not recessed

everything i haven't listed e.g eyebrows, eyelashes, skin are either not flaws or i am already fully aware on how i will fix them.
 
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bump, i will rep anyone with helpful advice
 
Here's the list. - btw i know this account was made recently but i've been on the forum since ************* leaked it back in 2023 so i know quite a lot of shit i wouldnt call myself a newgen. (regardless of all my flaws when i do a few softmaxxes before going out i am EASILY in hmtn territory and i want to fix these to ensure that i will reach htn.) any pharmacutical advice or compounds you may recommend would be appreciated too since that is the one part of lm that I have very little knowledge about since ive never considered it.

-I UNDERSTAND THAT SEEING MY FACE WOULD BE EASIER HOWEVER I AM NOT POSTING IT DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T DELETE THREADS. if you would like to see my face than add me on discord - woghitter44

ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO READ ALL OF THIS, YOU COULD SIMPLY READ ONLY ONE FLAW AND PROVIDE ANY THREAD/ADVICE AND IT WOULD BE HUGELY APPRECIATED. - im looking for high iq threads and advice though please don't provide water advice because I'm most likely aware of it.

-poor zygo projection both laterally and forwards

-my chin projection isnt necessarily a flaw but i need much more

-ik this is the same bs that all retard 14 year olds ask but any tips that truly work for forward growth of the maxilla and ccw rotation for better nasal tip projection and a shorter midface would be HUGELY APPRECIATED.

-VERY NARROW PALATE AND AIRWAYS, LIKELY THE REASON FOR MY SLIGHT DOWNGROWTH ALTHOUGH NOW I AM BARELY DOWNGROWN - i am unable to mew

-absolutely FUCKED my septum and cartilage by pushing my nasal tip temporarily to make it appear more upturned ( i am trying to get a septoplasty in the next 3 months) im 15 5months so this is a huge problem - assymetrical pressure from nasal breathing resulting in my left side being more developed than my right.
-slightly downgrown maxilla and therefore my nose isnt upturned like my mothers
-not much bonemass, nothing in my face is particularly striking except for my eye area on some days. (t50cel though)

-inward gonions, negative hooding on eyes, my sclera isnt white however i have a great thread for fixing it and it is working.

fairly narrow lips although they are ideal otherwise and i have a prominent cupids bow - i will thumbpull laterally to hopefully gain some width and potentially create microtears with a blade for a few mm of lip width.

-im pretty aware of most softmaxes honestly, i'd only say my colouring is a flaw since im a browncel. i will order kojic acid and alpha arbutin serum to lighten and use coloured contacts, fix my sclera and that should be enough.

i have started chewing on my premolars( its given promising results on my right regardless of inconsistency), doing suture loosening techniques, i will start thumbpulling soon idgaf if its cope - i got rpe rejected by 3 orthos when i was 14, i could potentially get marpe at 17 however regardless of poor habits and mouth breathing every night, my maxilla is not recessed at all, only slightly downgrown and i want that projection as it could definitely put me in htn territory.

i have a gym membership obviously im not training super hard but i would like a decent frame because my clavicles are pretty wide

only 5'9, i can fraud 5'10.5 with shoes and i could try lifts but i would like to reach 6'0 - my parents aren't short.

btw my parents have fed me pretty well growing up and ensured good habits (except oral ones) thus i am not recessed

everything i haven't listed e.g eyebrows, eyelashes, skin are either not flaws or i am already fully aware on how i will fix them.
so many words:forcedsmile:
 
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the most obvious thing would be to get a palatal expander of any kind it will fix some of your flaws
thumbpulling is cope
get that septoplasty
besides softmaxxes I do not see what else u could do
 
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lowering bf for slightly better looking zygos is obv, u could bonesmash before going out to fraud a bit of inflamation and projecction for the rest of the day but the bruising looks goofy so ud prolly need to use makeup, fraud ur height if u want but 5'10 ain't horrid
 
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mse + thumpull + hgh + latisse to burn fat and gain lahes
 
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