IM ABOUT TO START HGH (DISCUSSION) (gtfih if you've used it before)

[confirmgy]

Mirin tf out of the effort, Only really cared to read blue font but keep us updated on this journey. I'm 18 too and hoping to grow to 6'4

I've grown recently so they're not closed just dont know how close they are to closing. It'd be nice to see if you actually grow at 18 too

nice, how tall are you now? I’ve grown recently too

 

[confirmgy]

To get that bit of jaw projection you are going to need a shit ton more, almost double.

Beside idk how hgh only is bc i used it with test and ai.

During my depressions with the methyltren, hgh, test and ai i grew around 2cm and the rest of 8cm with hgh and test

Very interesting… I don’t wanna cycle test because then I’d have to use it for life unless I can be bothered learning post cycle therapies. Surely the benefits would start to top out at 8ius which many would consider a gigadose already

 

[Kojo]

nice, how tall are you now? I’ve grown recently too

188cm, (6ft2)

 

[confirmgy]

188cm, (6ft2)

Ah cool bro that’s definitely achievable since ur still growing, especially if ur planning on exogenous hormones like I am

 

[Kojo]

Ah cool bro that’s definitely achievable since ur still growing, especially if ur planning on exogenous hormones like I am

lol yeah, I'll stay natty though. I want the extra 2 inches but I don't care for it too much to use exo hormones. Good luck on your journey bhai

 

[ihateevb]

Very interesting… I don’t wanna cycle test because then I’d have to use it for life unless I can be bothered learning post cycle therapies. Surely the benefits would start to top out at 8ius which many would consider a gigadose already

No one considers 8ius a megadose, and if you dont want to add test its best yoi do nothing

 

[ihateevb]

On my momma androgens do more for height than gh istg
All the actual real anecdotes I’ve read about documented height growth was while on supra doses of androgens and gh, none are from gh solo

Btw how was methyltren for you

Literall hell

 

[UrFavNarcis]

Hmmm yea it’s logical and probably does to a certain degree.
GHK activates collagen remodeling through your FOXO and AMPK gene pathways which battles against your mTOR expression while GH and other androgens do the complete opposite.

However I don’t think it’s that big of a deal, my igf was 3x out of range even on megadoses of ghk so it’s negligible.

If u were to pin ghk natty with no other method of boosting ur mTOR u might get a little cooked but ur artificially increasing both pathways so nothing to worry about imo

Megadose ghk first month and then move to a regular dose eod and no issues imo

Im lowk retarded so ima cycle it off cuz i reconstituted with bac water instead of psd. Again thank you for the info

Hmmm yea it’s logical and probably does to a certain degree.
GHK activates collagen remodeling through your FOXO and AMPK gene pathways which battles against your mTOR expression while GH and other androgens do the complete opposite.

However I don’t think it’s that big of a deal, my igf was 3x out of range even on megadoses of ghk so it’s negligible.

If u were to pin ghk natty with no other method of boosting ur mTOR u might get a little cooked but ur artificially increasing both pathways so nothing to worry about imo

Megadose ghk first month and then move to a regular dose eod and no issues imo

Well rn im only gonna be on reta and hgh cause i dont understand roids enough. They will close my growth plates early right? (They may be already closed (didnt get x ray and im taking hgh not for height more for clavicles (im 195cm).

 

[UrFavNarcis]

Btw i

Hmmm yea it’s logical and probably does to a certain degree.
GHK activates collagen remodeling through your FOXO and AMPK gene pathways which battles against your mTOR expression while GH and other androgens do the complete opposite.

However I don’t think it’s that big of a deal, my igf was 3x out of range even on megadoses of ghk so it’s negligible.

If u were to pin ghk natty with no other method of boosting ur mTOR u might get a little cooked but ur artificially increasing both pathways so nothing to worry about imo

Megadose ghk first month and then move to a regular dose eod and no issues imo

Btw timing doesnt matter right? I mean i pinned reta and hgh at the same time (night)

 

[ltnburger]

how many iu did you take

6

 

[Punjabi Waffen]

have you used hgh before? the jaw is nearly the most sensitive region to hgh, every study and source says hgh has huge impacts on the jaw. even google.

your genes dont have the "chad gene" to let you grow it into a chad's jaw. you will end up like this

 

[growth_forward7777]

your genes dont have the "chad gene" to let you grow it into a chad's jaw. you will end up like this
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U really think you will look like that after 8iu for 6 months? No

 

[Kojo]

-- BEFORE YOU DNR --
red font = my own research
blue font = my plan (please answer if you've used hgh before)
green font = questions for experienced users (please answer if you've used hgh before)

I've already made a thread about this but it was kinda bad so making another.

I have done a fair bit of research into the effects, but I have never pinned before so I would love some anecdotes and advice from people who have pinned hgh.


What I think hgh improves if young enough:
- height (around 9cm for hgh deficient users on moderate dose (4ius/day for years))
- hand and foot size
- skull forward growth (maxilla)
- jaw (chin breadth, gonion width and mandibular projection)
- clavicle length
- recovery (less sleep to get the same amount of recovery and cognition abilities)
- muscle growth and muscle recovery

The potential risks:
- carpal tunnel syndrome (rare except in high doses (7+ius/day))
- joint pain (temporary and expected with skeletal growth)
- tumor growth acceleration (if you already have tumours then the rate of growth may be accelerated, however this means it will get spotted faster anyway and is extremely rare so not a concern of mine)

My hgh plan:
- On my 18th birthday in around 1 month, I am going to start an hgh cycle since I get access to a child trust fund with around £4200 or $5500 for American readers
- I will order the 720 iu box from QSC to my home in the UK
- I will pin 8ius / day for 90 days (this is subject to change if I think the dose should be lowered. I am unlikely to increase the dose without significant reason)
- I am considering adding an aromatase inhibitor to the stack, however the only compound I plan on injecting is hgh so it would just be for my natural estrogen production which may be slightly raised by hgh, to keep my growth plates open as long as possible if they still are.

What I'm hoping to get from the cycle:

Likely to get:
- improved sleep since I have exams within the 90 days
- muscle recovery
- slight growth of frame (via clavicles / scapular expanding since those plates usually don't fully ossify until around 25)

Unlikely to get:
- height growth. (since I will be turning 18 its unlikely my growth plates will still be open. However I have reason to believe they might be. I have definitely grown at least 2cm in the last 6 months and I am 5'10 with a 6'4 dad and 5'8 mum so genetically I should be 6'3-6'6).
- chin growth. (another indicator my plates aren't fully closed is my chin is narrow and recessed indicating deficiency and delayed ossification . I am hoping for a few mm in mandible, some breadth in chin and maybe some gonion projection)
- brow ridge growth
- neck growth (neck size is directly locked to the anatomy underneath it. I have put on as much muscle as possible on my neck already)
- maxilla growth and projection (extremely unlikely)

Questions for experienced users:
- Are the effects I detailed as likely as I suggest they are?
- Can you please give anecdotes of your usage? (How your skeletal structure changed, how old you were, what your stack consisted of)
- Did I miss out or get any effects wrong?
- What else could I add / subtract from the stack to get peak benefits?

My prioritisation of benefits:
1. height (even though I've given up on it pretty much)
2. jaw growth
3. frame
4. other facial structure changes
5. muscles etc


VERY HIGH EFFORT POST SO PLEASE REP / BUMP WHENEVER YOU CAN

It's been 2 months, what's the progress boyo?

 

[anondude]

I don’t think u included insulin sensitivity as a risk watch out for that on such a high dose

 

[wavocs]

-- BEFORE YOU DNR --
red font = my own research
blue font = my plan (please answer if you've used hgh before)
green font = questions for experienced users (please answer if you've used hgh before)

I've already made a thread about this but it was kinda bad so making another.

I have done a fair bit of research into the effects, but I have never pinned before so I would love some anecdotes and advice from people who have pinned hgh.


What I think hgh improves if young enough:
- height (around 9cm for hgh deficient users on moderate dose (4ius/day for years))
- hand and foot size
- skull forward growth (maxilla)
- jaw (chin breadth, gonion width and mandibular projection)
- clavicle length
- recovery (less sleep to get the same amount of recovery and cognition abilities)
- muscle growth and muscle recovery

The potential risks:
- carpal tunnel syndrome (rare except in high doses (7+ius/day))
- joint pain (temporary and expected with skeletal growth)
- tumor growth acceleration (if you already have tumours then the rate of growth may be accelerated, however this means it will get spotted faster anyway and is extremely rare so not a concern of mine)

My hgh plan:
- On my 18th birthday in around 1 month, I am going to start an hgh cycle since I get access to a child trust fund with around £4200 or $5500 for American readers
- I will order the 720 iu box from QSC to my home in the UK
- I will pin 8ius / day for 90 days (this is subject to change if I think the dose should be lowered. I am unlikely to increase the dose without significant reason)
- I am considering adding an aromatase inhibitor to the stack, however the only compound I plan on injecting is hgh so it would just be for my natural estrogen production which may be slightly raised by hgh, to keep my growth plates open as long as possible if they still are.

What I'm hoping to get from the cycle:

Likely to get:
- improved sleep since I have exams within the 90 days
- muscle recovery
- slight growth of frame (via clavicles / scapular expanding since those plates usually don't fully ossify until around 25)

Unlikely to get:
- height growth. (since I will be turning 18 its unlikely my growth plates will still be open. However I have reason to believe they might be. I have definitely grown at least 2cm in the last 6 months and I am 5'10 with a 6'4 dad and 5'8 mum so genetically I should be 6'3-6'6).
- chin growth. (another indicator my plates aren't fully closed is my chin is narrow and recessed indicating deficiency and delayed ossification . I am hoping for a few mm in mandible, some breadth in chin and maybe some gonion projection)
- brow ridge growth
- neck growth (neck size is directly locked to the anatomy underneath it. I have put on as much muscle as possible on my neck already)
- maxilla growth and projection (extremely unlikely)

Questions for experienced users:
- Are the effects I detailed as likely as I suggest they are?
- Can you please give anecdotes of your usage? (How your skeletal structure changed, how old you were, what your stack consisted of)
- Did I miss out or get any effects wrong?
- What else could I add / subtract from the stack to get peak benefits?

My prioritisation of benefits:
1. height (even though I've given up on it pretty much)
2. jaw growth
3. frame
4. other facial structure changes
5. muscles etc


VERY HIGH EFFORT POST SO PLEASE REP / BUMP WHENEVER YOU CAN

Is QSC a good source also if it is can you send me link