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I can't remember the ones needed, I'll just list the one I remember and have

  • glutathione
  • nac (glut pre cursor)
  • vitamin c
  • tudac
  • hctz
  • Arimidex
That's all I remember :feelswhy: . Anyone got some to add to the list?

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@BR32 @mohito
 
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you are not even in a oral aas why that all supplementation:unsure:
 
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Aromasin is better than arimidex as its a suicidal AI

You'll want to be taking at least 4000mg of eph/dha daily for lipids

If you are running higher doses of gear (or orals) its probably going to be necessary to use ezetimibe or rosuvistatin (if you really need it)

Raloxifene is good to have on hand in case you get early signs of gyno as you can fully reverse it. (You won't tho if you manage E2 properly and pin ED.)

Telmisartan for blood pressure (its also an ARB inhibitor which prevents and can reverse early stage left ventricular hypertrophy)

Dutasteride for hair loss prevention (or topical finasteride/ru58841)

Tadalfil is nice to have pre workout but not really necessary.

If you plan to run higher doses of gear its good to add in a beta blocker like nebivolol for RHR. And if you run 19-nors dihexa+cereybrolysin is important as they are neurotoxic.
 
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Shout out @Micrognathic

But obv it’s best to just ask someone experienced with roids and cycling
 
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Aromasin is better than arimidex as its a suicidal AI

You'll want to be taking at least 4000mg of eph/dha daily for lipids

Raloxifene is good to have on hand in case you get early signs of gyno as you can fully reverse it. (You won't tho if you manage E2 properly and pin ED.

Telmisartan for blood pressure (its also an ARB inhibitor which prevents and can reverse early stage left ventricular hypertrophy)

Dutasteride for hair loss prevention (or topical finasteride/ru58841)

Tadalfil is nice to have pre workout but not really necessary.
Shiii, time to make my fourth indian order this week:feelsez: thanks chad

Is that all that I need, or should I be adding more shiii, I have money to spare for this

I have no budget for ancillaries

 
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Shiii, time to make my fourth indian order this week:feelsez: thanks chad

Is that all that I need, or should I be adding more shiii, I have money to spare for this

I have no budget for ancillaries

What total dose of androgens do you plan to run/week?
 
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stick 30 mg of tadalafil
telmi
omega 3
any compound to hair support
dht blocker or topical antiandrogens
magnesium glycenate for sleep
which is the most importatant
 
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5ar blocker
coq10
bergamot root powder
beet root
fish oil
 
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250 test, thats all lol

maybe some hgh since I have some on the way
What I detailed above is what I'm running and I'm starting with 300 test.

I made some edits but what it was originally.

I'll DM you on disc
 
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I can't remember the ones needed, I'll just list the one I remember and have

  • glutathione
  • nac (glut pre cursor)
  • vitamin c
  • tudac
  • hctz
  • Arimidex
That's all I remember :feelswhy: . Anyone got some to add to the list?

Tag anyone who is actively on a cycle
@BR32 @mohito
You shouldn't take Arimidex or HCTZ unless your blood works shows that you have high estrogen relative to testosterone or high bp. Once you confirm that you have those you can start with very conservative doses of Arimidex or HCTZ (depends on what you treat)

I am currently running this:
Testosterone Propionate 50 mg/day
Myo-T12 5 g twice daily

For lipid protection
Berverine 500 mg three times daily before meals
Omega-3 3 g EPA/DHA
Psyllium Husk powder 10 g
Zone 2 cardio 180 min/week split into 5 times per week (also good for heart health obviously)

For liver and kidney health
Monitor and keep blood pressure below 130/80 (have a blood pressure log)

For hair loss
Topical Dutasteride 0.1%
Finasteride 1 mg/day (this is not really useful if you are using topical dutasteride, but I was taking it before the cycle too and I decided to keep taking it)
Topical Minoxidil 5%
Ketoconazole 2% shampoo (I haven't tried it yet)
It is a good ideal for all of those to start couple week before the cycle and drop them couple weeks after

Extra supplements
Creatine 5 g/day
Whey protein 50 g/day
Casein protein 30 g/day (30-60 minutes before bed)
L-cirtulline 8 g/day as a pre workout (for nitric oxide support, better gym pump and lower bp)
There are more supplements/drugs that you could take to lower bp (like beta blockers and ARBs) if it is too high because the last thing you want is to get an enlarged heart. (also don't use AIs unless necessary you can study why I'm too lazy to explain)


And most importantly...
Blood tests to actually monitor organs
Pre-cycle:
* General panel
* TIBC
* B12
* Vitamin D (25-OH D3)
* CRP
* Fasting glucose
* HbA1c
* Total cholesterol
* HDL + LDL
* Triglycerides
* AST + ALT
* TSH
* Magnesium
* Sodium + Potassium
* ALP
* Creatinine
* eGFR
* Total testosterone
* FSH + LH
* SHBG
* Albumin
* Free testosterone
* Estradiol (E2)
* Prolactin
Mid-cyle at 6 weeks:
Metabolic:

* Fasting glucose
* Fasting insulin
* HbA1c
* CBC (Hematocrite < 52%)

Lipids:
* Total cholesterol
* HDL + LDL
* Triglycerides
* Apolipoprotein B (ApoB)

Hormones:
* Total testosterone
* SHBG
* Albumin
* Free testosterone
* Estradiol (E2)
* Prolactin
Liver:
* AST + ALT
* GGT (important)
* Bilirubin
Kidney:
* Creatinine
* eGFR
* BUN
* Urine albumin/creatinine (best early marker)

Other:
* TSH + T3 + T4
* PSA

Post-cycle:
Check again everything and also do an echocardiogram and an electrocardiogram (ECG) for the heart
Also you should have planned a proper PCT (like Enclomiphene + Tamoxifen)

Note: This is from another thread that I had answer.
 
I can't remember the ones needed, I'll just list the one I remember and have

  • glutathione
  • nac (glut pre cursor)
  • vitamin c
  • tudac
  • hctz
  • Arimidex
That's all I remember :feelswhy: . Anyone got some to add to the list?

Tag anyone who is actively on a cycle
@BR32 @mohito
you definitly dont need glutha for test you basicly only need hcg arimidex and minox and maybe nac/tudca depending on dose
 
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