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*DISCLAIMER*This is a very grey thread and before any of you say I know I am in a much better position that many people on this forum
Sorry for all who clicked on this thread expecting a subhuman post but I have become really insecure about how I look recently more than I really ever have been before and really need some advice on where to begin with any maxxes.My experience with foids has not been the best only time I have interacted with one was this stupid school ballroom dancing thing around two years ago and I have not spoken to one or been approached since then so I have 0 slays.Flaws that I can notice are my really thin lips and these contribute to my long philtrum that coupled with an almost non existent lower third makes my jaw region fucked,I have no Ogee curve what so ever even though I have relatively high set cheek bones they are not prominent at all and that really decreases my dimorphism.I don't really have any idea of how to tackle the lower third problem and some advice would be appreciated.I have started going to the gym to help with my lack of muscle mass and frame also I am currently growing out my hair.
Height:186cm/6,1
BF% and Weight:63kg 17% on the eye test would like an opinion on this
Front ratios I will use the second picture for these because it is the least lens distorted but I can add the fourth picture's ratios in the comments if asked to.
FACIAL THIRDS
Top Third:34.99%
Middle Third:33.87%
Lower Third:31.15%
FACE SHAPE
FWHR:1.87x
TWHR:1.31x
Mid face ratio:1.01x
Bitemporal width:94%
Cheekbone height:87.10%
EYES
Eyebrow lowsetedness:0.87x
Eye aspect ratio:2.81x
Brow length to face width ratio:0.65
ESR:45.7%
One eye apart test:0.98x
Lateral Canthal tilt:6.51 degrees
Eyebrow tilt:7.16 degrees
NOSE
Nose bridge to nose width:2.3
Intercanthal-nasal width ratio:1.02x
Ipsilateral Alar angle:86.29 degrees
Nose tip position:2.12mm
Deviation of IAA and JFA:0.15 degrees
MOUTH
Lower lip to upper lip ratio:couldn't get an accurate answer for this
Mouth width to nose width ratio:1.57x
Interpulpillary-mouth width ratio:0.78x
Cupids bow depth:2.12mm
Chin to Philtrum ratio:2.05x but I get different readings everytime
Mouth corner position:2.65mm
JAW
Jaw slope:148.55 degrees
Lower third proportion:34.53%
Bigonial width:87.2%
JFA:86.43 degrees
EARS
Ear protrusion angle:13.39 degrees
Ear protrusion ratio:12.43%
NECK
Neck width:79.87% very bad but neck training is relatively straightforward
OVERALL FRONTAL HARMONY AROUND 65-71%
SIDE RATIOS
UPPER THIRD
Nasofrontal angle:135.77 degrees
Upper forehead slope:4.11 degrees
Browridge inclination angle:20.35 degrees
FACIAL PROFILE
facial convexity(glabella):166.03 degrees
interior mid face projection angle(maxilla):63.43 degrees
Orbital vector: -1.45mm
Facial convexity(Nasion)160.77 degrees
Anterior facial depth:62.62 degrees
Total facial convexity(nasal tip to browridge):140.97 degrees
Facial depth to height ratio:1.35x
Z angle:78.07 degrees
NOSE
Nasolabial angle:121.91 degrees
Nasofacial angle:29.09 degrees
Nasal projection:0.69x
Nasal tip rotation angle:23.65 degrees
Nasal tip angle:136.76 degrees
Nasomental angle:129.57 degrees
Nasal Width to height ratio:0.78x
Frankfort tip angle:37.02 degrees
LIPS
Upper lip s-line position:3.27mm
Upper lip burnstone line: -0.62mm
Lower lip s-line position:2.49mm
Lower lip burnstone line: -0.21mm
Upper lip e-line postion:6.22mm
Lower lip e-line position:4.5mm
Holdaway H line:0.22mm
Mentolabial angle:124.55 degrees
JAW
Gonion to mouth line:11.10mm
Recession relative to frankfort plane: -1.45mm mandible is too short
Gonial angle:116.09 degrees my gonion is not actually very angular not sure on how to fix that though
Mandibular plane angle:19.88 degrees
Ramus to mandible ratio:0.65x
NECK
Submental cervical angle:98.85 degrees
FINAL Note.I am a bit of a volcel and don't have the best mental health rn.
Sorry for all who clicked on this thread expecting a subhuman post but I have become really insecure about how I look recently more than I really ever have been before and really need some advice on where to begin with any maxxes.My experience with foids has not been the best only time I have interacted with one was this stupid school ballroom dancing thing around two years ago and I have not spoken to one or been approached since then so I have 0 slays.Flaws that I can notice are my really thin lips and these contribute to my long philtrum that coupled with an almost non existent lower third makes my jaw region fucked,I have no Ogee curve what so ever even though I have relatively high set cheek bones they are not prominent at all and that really decreases my dimorphism.I don't really have any idea of how to tackle the lower third problem and some advice would be appreciated.I have started going to the gym to help with my lack of muscle mass and frame also I am currently growing out my hair.
Height:186cm/6,1
BF% and Weight:63kg 17% on the eye test would like an opinion on this
Front ratios I will use the second picture for these because it is the least lens distorted but I can add the fourth picture's ratios in the comments if asked to.
FACIAL THIRDS
Top Third:34.99%
Middle Third:33.87%
Lower Third:31.15%
FACE SHAPE
FWHR:1.87x
TWHR:1.31x
Mid face ratio:1.01x
Bitemporal width:94%
Cheekbone height:87.10%
EYES
Eyebrow lowsetedness:0.87x
Eye aspect ratio:2.81x
Brow length to face width ratio:0.65
ESR:45.7%
One eye apart test:0.98x
Lateral Canthal tilt:6.51 degrees
Eyebrow tilt:7.16 degrees
NOSE
Nose bridge to nose width:2.3
Intercanthal-nasal width ratio:1.02x
Ipsilateral Alar angle:86.29 degrees
Nose tip position:2.12mm
Deviation of IAA and JFA:0.15 degrees
MOUTH
Lower lip to upper lip ratio:couldn't get an accurate answer for this
Mouth width to nose width ratio:1.57x
Interpulpillary-mouth width ratio:0.78x
Cupids bow depth:2.12mm
Chin to Philtrum ratio:2.05x but I get different readings everytime
Mouth corner position:2.65mm
JAW
Jaw slope:148.55 degrees
Lower third proportion:34.53%
Bigonial width:87.2%
JFA:86.43 degrees
EARS
Ear protrusion angle:13.39 degrees
Ear protrusion ratio:12.43%
NECK
Neck width:79.87% very bad but neck training is relatively straightforward
OVERALL FRONTAL HARMONY AROUND 65-71%
SIDE RATIOS
UPPER THIRD
Nasofrontal angle:135.77 degrees
Upper forehead slope:4.11 degrees
Browridge inclination angle:20.35 degrees
FACIAL PROFILE
facial convexity(glabella):166.03 degrees
interior mid face projection angle(maxilla):63.43 degrees
Orbital vector: -1.45mm
Facial convexity(Nasion)160.77 degrees
Anterior facial depth:62.62 degrees
Total facial convexity(nasal tip to browridge):140.97 degrees
Facial depth to height ratio:1.35x
Z angle:78.07 degrees
NOSE
Nasolabial angle:121.91 degrees
Nasofacial angle:29.09 degrees
Nasal projection:0.69x
Nasal tip rotation angle:23.65 degrees
Nasal tip angle:136.76 degrees
Nasomental angle:129.57 degrees
Nasal Width to height ratio:0.78x
Frankfort tip angle:37.02 degrees
LIPS
Upper lip s-line position:3.27mm
Upper lip burnstone line: -0.62mm
Lower lip s-line position:2.49mm
Lower lip burnstone line: -0.21mm
Upper lip e-line postion:6.22mm
Lower lip e-line position:4.5mm
Holdaway H line:0.22mm
Mentolabial angle:124.55 degrees
JAW
Gonion to mouth line:11.10mm
Recession relative to frankfort plane: -1.45mm mandible is too short
Gonial angle:116.09 degrees my gonion is not actually very angular not sure on how to fix that though
Mandibular plane angle:19.88 degrees
Ramus to mandible ratio:0.65x
NECK
Submental cervical angle:98.85 degrees
FINAL Note.I am a bit of a volcel and don't have the best mental health rn.