Help me transition from soft to HARDMAXXING.

[iblameerfan]

I just don’t really get it, I am doing everything I can, nothing works, I feel really demotivated and ugly, I want to become even better looking, it just isn’t enough for me to even get a girlfriend.

I got more stylish with high-brand clothes, because I thought that was the problem, and I banged all my money on clothes such as Prada, CP-Company, Gucci and so on,

I don’t know but guys uglier than me slay girls while I am here and just lost, I tried slaying this one girl but pussied out and didn’t talk to her much, because I got nervous.

Please tell me how to improve even further, even if it’s surgery or hardmaxxing as long as it improves me.

Information:
17 Years old
1.80cm
Shoulder width: around 40cm
Weight: 53kg

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[iblameerfan]

I just don’t really get it, I am doing everything I can, nothing works, I feel really demotivated and ugly, I want to become even better looking, it just isn’t enough for me to even get a girlfriend.

I got more stylish with high-brand clothes, because I thought that was the problem, and I banged all my money on clothes such as Prada, CP-Company, Gucci and so on,

I don’t know but guys uglier than me slay girls while I am here and just lost, I tried slaying this one girl but pussied out and didn’t talk to her much, because I got nervous.

Please tell me how to improve even further, even if it’s surgery or hardmaxxing as long as it improves me.

Information:
17 Years old
1.80cm
Shoulder width: around 40cm
Weight: 53kg

Frontview:
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Underview:
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Sideview:
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I know my nose is super bad, I’m trying to improve it at the moment.

 

[Healthymaxxer]

bro looks like the moai

 

[org3cel.RR]

 

[iblameerfan]

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bro looks like the moai

It’s over ?

 

[org3cel.RR]

It’s over ?

Ur LTN, ethnic, average height, skinny af, and your frame is dogshit, so yes, its over

 

[iblameerfan]

Ur LTN, ethnic, average height, skinny af, and your frame is dogshit, so yes, its

I am bulking since 2 weeks, hopefully I’ll reach 65kg till summer, my ethnicity I can’t do anything about it, my height I’m trying to improve in every way I possibly can like Masai Jumps and Magnesium Supplements, I could possibly grow taller due to my dad being around 1,91cm, but what could I fix facial wise ?

 

[Foreverbrad]

Grow your hair out maybe you can fraud your narrow skull

 

[org3cel.RR]

I am bulking since 2 weeks, hopefully I’ll reach 65kg till summer, my ethnicity I can’t do anything about it, my height I’m trying to improve in every way I possibly can like Masai Jumps and Magnesium Supplements, I could possibly grow taller due to my dad being around 1,91cm, but what could I fix facial wise ?

Look at this @PsychoH Total retard domination on this forum rn

 

[iblameerfan]

Grow your hair out maybe you can fraud your narrow skull

Like this ?

 

[Killtera___]

first of, get rid of the mole, second i am sorry but you biggest flaw is that your face is too fucking thin and you cannot fix it with surgery, and dont try to fix your nose because it wont change anything, sorry but you are stuck at ltn at best

 

[iblameerfan]

first of, get rid of the mole, second i am sorry but you biggest flaw is that your face is too fucking thin and you cannot fix it with surgery, and dont try to fix your nose because it wont change anything, sorry but you are stuck at ltn at best

I don’t wanna sound dumb, but I heard about thumbpulling ? Do you think it works ?

 

[Killtera___]

billion years of evolution vs your thumbs, what do you think

 

[danilioqqq]

I *think* jaw wings might help. But there's no clear way for you I believe. You would have to be willing to spend hella cash and take hella risk in order to ascent. Your eye area is decent which is good bc it's the hardest to hardmaxx

 

[iblameerfan]

first of, get rid of the mole, second i am sorry but you biggest flaw is that your face is too fucking thin and you cannot fix it with surgery, and dont try to fix your nose because it wont change anything, sorry but you are stuck at ltn at best

The Bonemass makes my face narrow right ? If that’s the case, should I just try and increase my bonemass ?

 

[danilioqqq]

I don’t wanna sound dumb, but I heard about thumbpulling ? Do you think it works ?

Measure your IMW (intermolar width). Google how to measure it but basically the distance between your first upper molars. If it's narrow and your teeth are crooked or whatever you can get a palatal expander, which is not only might help you widen your maxilla but also get you breathing and sleeping benefits for life

 

[iblameerfan]

I *think* jaw wings might help. But there's no clear way for you I believe. You would have to be willing to spend hella cash and take hella risk in order to ascent. Your eye area is decent which is good bc it's the hardest to hardmaxx

I also do a sodium flush every once in a while which makes my cheeks disappear due to my weight, do you think if I just stay bloated it will make my face look wider ?

 

[danilioqqq]

The Bonemass makes my face narrow right ? If that’s the case, should I just try and increase my bonemass ?

not the bonemass
it's bone structure

 

[danilioqqq]

I also do a sodium flush every once in a while which makes my cheeks disappear due to my weight, do you think if I just stay bloated it will make my face look wider ?

terrible idea

 

[iblameerfan]

terrible idea

How so ? My IMW is around 6-7cms if I have to guess

 

[iblameerfan]

terrible idea

I think I measured wrong, the normal IMW is 34-38mm

 

[danilioqqq]

How so ? My IMW is around 6-7cms if I have to guess

it's surely not. and also at least rep me if asking so many questions

first molars aren't the last teeth btw. Also it's distance between teeth not including teeth themselves

 

[iblameerfan]

it's surely not. and also at least rep me if asking so many questions

first molars aren't the last teeth btw. Also it's distance between teeth not including teeth themselves

Which teeth are they then ?

 

[iblameerfan]

it's surely not. and also at least rep me if asking so many questions

first molars aren't the last teeth btw. Also it's distance between teeth not including teeth themselves

I don’t think it’s because of my palate, it’s more of the floor of my mouth which is not wide.

 

[iblameerfan]

I don’t think it’s because of my palate, it’s more of the floor of my mouth which is not wide.

Never mind that doesn’t make sense.

 

[iblameerfan]

it's surely not. and also at least rep me if asking so many questions

first molars aren't the last teeth btw. Also it's distance between teeth not including teeth themselves

What do you think of a palate expander could that save me ?

 

[danilioqqq]

What do you think of a palate expander could that save me ?

could help, especially paired with BSSO. Might ascend you hard. Basically widening your skull

 

[danilioqqq]

Which teeth are they then ?

6th (google first molars)

 

[iblameerfan]

could help, especially paired with BSSO. Might ascend you hard. Basically widening your skull

How do I get one ?

 

[danilioqqq]

How do I get one ?

1) Do your research and go deep
2) Seek an airway focused ortho
3) Discuss your plans and goals
4) Do

 

[iblameerfan]

1) Do your research and go deep
2) Seek an airway focused ortho
3) Discuss your plans and goals
4) Do

Do you know about the pain? I googled and it said it isn’t painful, but a friend has one and he said it’s extremely painful.

 

[danilioqqq]

Do you know about the pain? I googled and it said it isn’t painful, but a friend has one and he said it’s extremely painful.

VERY painful until the split occurs. You are splitting your skull in half with the mechanical force, ofc it's painful. But it gets much better after the first week. You will be fine

 

[iblameerfan]

VERY painful until the split occurs. You are splitting your skull in half with the mechanical force, ofc it's painful. But it gets much better after the first week. You will be fine

Do you recommend me doing that shit ? Ofc i will also talk to a ortho but you know they always care about health rather than looks.

 

[iblameerfan]

VERY painful until the split occurs. You are splitting your skull in half with the mechanical force, ofc it's painful. But it gets much better after the first week. You will be fine

Doesn’t thumbpulling do the same thing, ? what if I do like 10 sets of widening-thumbpulling a day ? I’m willing to go ahead and do it as long as I don’t have to do that shit.

 

[danilioqqq]

Doesn’t thumbpulling do the same thing, ? what if I do like 10 sets of widening-thumbpulling a day ? I’m willing to go ahead and do it as long as I don’t have to do that shit.

not gonna split your bone with you thumbs dude

 

[blondepersonreal]

Doesn’t thumbpulling do the same thing, ? what if I do like 10 sets of widening-thumbpulling a day ? I’m willing to go ahead and do it as long as I don’t have to do that shit.

Thumbpulling is cope sorry. You should def get palate expander if you're willing to go through with it. I feel like your ipd is also narrow so if you have money maybe go to giant for obo. Idk how realistic an obo is but just a suggestion

 

[iblameerfan]

Thumbpulling is cope sorry. You should def get palate expander if you're willing to go through with it. I feel like your ipd is also narrow so if you have money maybe go to giant for obo. Idk how realistic an obo is but just a suggestion

What if I do it even hours at a time ?

 

[iblameerfan]

Thumbpulling is cope sorry. You should def get palate expander if you're willing to go through with it. I feel like your ipd is also narrow so if you have money maybe go to giant for obo. Idk how realistic an obo is but just a suggestion

I’m willing to go to hell as long as it ascends me, a palate expander doesn’t look great, and it surely won’t feel great, that’s why I’ll have to research and see.

 

[EliDKing]

Just thumppull, mew, take cold showers and youll ascend boyo!

 

[EliDKing]

I’m willing to go to hell as long as it ascends me, a palate expander doesn’t look great, and it surely won’t feel great, that’s why I’ll have to research and see.

just get the damn palate expander nigger

 

[iblameerfan]

just get the damn palate expander nigger

I don’t want my fucking skull to go through that pain.

 

[iblameerfan]

Just thumppull, mew, take cold showers and youll ascend boyo!

Thumb pull and Mew sure buddy.

 

[EliDKing]

I don’t want my fucking skull to go through that pain.

fucking nigger what the fuck.

just get the damn palate expander, better than living with a narrow as face for the rest of your life.

you could also you party with drunk girls and slay them drunk then dissapear.

alchohol warps your ratios so you look better (more chadlike).

just rape intoxicated girls theory!!!!

 

[iblameerfan]

fucking nigger what the fuck.

just get the damn palate expander, better than living with a narrow as face for the rest of your life.

you could also you party with drunk girls and slay them drunk then dissapear.

alchohol warps your ratios so you look better (more chadlike).

just rape intoxicated girls theory!!!!

Evil ass bitch, but sure buddy I will do my research.

 

[blondepersonreal]

What if I do it even hours at a time ?

Yeah it wont do anything. You cant produce enough force on your mouth with your thumbs to split your hard palate.

 

[jackreacher52]

MSE + MARPE

 

[iblameerfan]

Yeah it wont do anything. You cant produce enough force on your mouth with your thumbs to split your hard palate.

Wouldn’t that also ruin my harmony due to my eyes being closer to each other ?

 

[iblameerfan]

terrible idea

How so, staying bloated would make my face more roundy which could fraud my narrow skull.

 

[danilioqqq]

How so, staying bloated would make my face more roundy which could fraud my narrow skull.

Just reincarnate with higher IQ and better bones

 

[iblameerfan]

Just reincarnate with higher IQ and better bones

My bad, I’m 16 I just wanna know what to do now since, I just got into this shit and I’m trying to learn about these hardmaxxing stuff, I only stayed on TikTok softmaxxing videos till now.