Help me understand 🤔🤔

[.*my*.]

This is Greg Doucettes diagram, or chart, it explains how much muscle mass you can gain with good genetics or bad genetics or if you’re a woman. In the next picture you can see my 10 month transformation picture(2018-2019). Now I probably gained 1% body fat and half an inch of height between the pictures. Left was 130-135 pounds, right 160-165 pounds. So it’s safe to say that I gained at least 20-30 pounds of pure muscle (if we deduct fat and bone growth). And that doesn’t make sense according to his chart. So I’m either a genetic freak which I obviously am not, or I don’t know what else. Help me understand.

 

[.*my*.]

Bump tbh

 

[.*my*.]

B

 

[St. Wristcel]

just take advice from low t turbomanlet theorem

 

[.*my*.]

just take advice from low t turbomanlet theorem

Dude he’s Guinness world record winner.

 

[Deleted member 4106]

1 I hardly see a difference between the photos, it doesn't look like a 30 lbs difference, unless you're really tall.
2 Its graph is probably wrong, it depends on many factors, at most it is a generalization

Now that I read that you have 6'3, the taller you are, the more difficult it is to gain muscle, you did nothing wrong.
and you are still underweight, you are pure ectomorph.

 

[.*my*.]

1 I hardly see a difference between the photos, it doesn't look like a 30 lbs difference, unless you're really tall.
2 Its graph is probably wrong, it depends on many factors, at most it is a generalization

Now that I read that you have 6'3, the taller you are, the more difficult it is to gain muscle, you did nothing wrong.
and you are still underweight, you are pure ectomorph.

This was 2019 can’t you read? I’m 30 pounds heavier now.

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

you gained more water and fat than you think you did

 

[randomvanish]

twink body tbh
bump

 

[.*my*.]

you gained more water and fat than you think you did

Fine. Let’s say I removed 5 pounds of water and 2 pounds of fat so I could be same condition as before, that still means 15-20 pounds of muscle gained.

 

[.*my*.]

twink body tbh
bump

I didn’t ask for a rating bro. And this was almost 2 years ago.

 

[randomvanish]

I didn’t ask for a rating bro. And this was almost 2 years ago.

put some muscle

 

[.*my*.]

put some muscle

I did. I’m 197 right now.

 

[Deleted member 8461]

Most guys gain 20+ pounds in their first year of bodybuilding. why the fuck are you posting rando infographs instead of studies

 

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[.*my*.]

Most guys gain 20+ pounds in their first year of bodybuilding. why the fuck are you posting rando infographs instead of studies

Because it was made by a person training even before you and I were born with a masters degree and good knowledge in bodybuilding.

 

[Deleted member 8461]

"Lyle McDonald's Natural Lean Muscle Mass Gain Model
Provided that they follow a sensible, structured diet and training program, a 150-pound beginner fitness enthusiast in Aragon's model can potentially gain 18-27 pounds of lean muscle per year. A 170-pound intermediate fitness enthusiast can potentially gain 10-15 pounds of muscle."

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[Deleted member 8461]

Because it was made by a person training even before you and I were born with a masters degree and good knowledge in bodybuilding.

ok but being old isn't an advantage especially in a field that gets new ground breaking information every other week. A master's degree in what though? There's no bodybuilding master's

 

[.*my*.]

"Lyle McDonald's Natural Lean Muscle Mass Gain Model
Provided that they follow a sensible, structured diet and training program, a 150-pound beginner fitness enthusiast in Aragon's model can potentially gain 18-27 pounds of lean muscle per year. A 170-pound intermediate fitness enthusiast can potentially gain 10-15 pounds of muscle."

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This is all theory and they include the extremes for clickbait. The reality is a little bit different.

 

[Deleted member 8461]

This is all theory and they include the extremes for clickbait. The reality is a little bit different.

And a youtube thumbnail is what? Hard evidence? Are you trying to get people to tell you have amazing genes?
30 pound total weight gain in your first year is good progress and it's nothing out of the ordinary

 

[Deleted member 8461]

It looks good though. I can't really see your arms in the after, but you're lats have filled in and your pecs have a significant change. It kinda looks like your delts are bigger too but I can't see with them fucking cropped out.

 

[.*my*.]

And a youtube thumbnail is what? Hard evidence? Are you trying to get people to tell you have amazing genes?
30 pound total weight gain in your first year is good progress and it's nothing out of the ordinary

If you’re going to argue for the sake of arguing then you’re in the wrong place buddy. There’s theory, and there’s reality. Greg Doucette is a credible bodybuilder and many people vouch for him and would confirm the same thing.

This post was made because I am confused. Either I gained a lot of fat and water, or I was just underweight so I made more gains because of that.

 

[mortis]

This is Greg Doucettes diagram, or chart, it explains how much muscle mass you can gain with good genetics or bad genetics or if you’re a woman. In the next picture you can see my 10 month transformation picture(2018-2019). Now I probably gained 1% body fat and half an inch of height between the pictures. Left was 130-135 pounds, right 160-165 pounds. So it’s safe to say that I gained at least 20-30 pounds of pure muscle (if we deduct fat and bone growth). And that doesn’t make sense according to his chart. So I’m either a genetic freak which I obviously am not, or I don’t know what else. Help me understand.

no difference in before and after shots tbh glad i left gymcelling its all about the face anyways
and also you will gain like crazy in the first few months and after that it starts to gat harder to gain muscles.i was 6'1 and 128 lbs when i started and in 6 months i turned 159 lbs with very low body fat. next few months i gained more and became 165 and i stopped there tbh didn't worth the time and dieting for nothing.

 

[.*my*.]

no difference in before and after shots tbh glad i left gymcelling its all about the face anyways
and also you will gain like crazy in the first few months and after that it starts to gat harder to gain muscles.i was 6'1 and 128 lbs when i started and in 6 months i turned 159 lbs with very low body fat. next few months i gained more and became 165 and i stopped there tbh didn't worth the time and dieting for nothing.

That’s called being tall, idiot. Go ahead and keep giving up on your dreams while I achieve mine.

 

[mortis]

That’s called being tall, idiot. Go ahead and keep giving up on your dreams while I achieve mine.

keep on lifting metal shits and work like an slave in prison called gym as chad is balls deep inside your dreams ass

 

[Deleted member 8461]

If you’re going to argue for the sake of arguing then you’re in the wrong place buddy. There’s theory, and there’s reality. Greg Doucette is a credible bodybuilder and many people vouch for him and would confirm the same thing.

This post was made because I am confused. Either I gained a lot of fat and water, or I was just underweight so I made more gains because of that.

He's sketch af and cares more about his image as an entertainer and stirring up drama for clout than providing accurate information. Not unlike your orange god king. Imagine taking one guys advice as gospel instead of researching multiple sources. Again like you do with your subhuman god king.

Anyways It looks like you answered your own question so obviously you made this post for some kind of validation that I will gladly give because your hard work deserves it and apparently you're not getting any validation irl hence the reason for your post

 

[.*my*.]

keep on lifting metal shits and work like an slave in prison called gym as chad is balls deep inside your dreams ass

Keep barking while I make gains

 

[mortis]

Keep barking while I make gains

no gym for that face jfl

 

[.*my*.]

no gym for that face jfl

Forward grown and pretty. What’s wrong with you?

 

[Phillybeard1996]

1 I hardly see a difference between the photos, it doesn't look like a 30 lbs difference, unless you're really tall.
2 Its graph is probably wrong, it depends on many factors, at most it is a generalization

Now that I read that you have 6'3, the taller you are, the more difficult it is to gain muscle, you did nothing wrong.
and you are still underweight, you are pure ectomorph.

If a ectomorph gets fat then is he a endomorph?

 

[IWantToMax]

Doucette oversimplifies stuff and is often wrong

 

[.*my*.]

If a ectomorph gets fat then is he a endomorph?

No. Endomorph just gets fat easier. If you have to stuff yourself to get fat, like I do, then you’re ecto-mesomorph.

 

[mortis]

Forward grown and pretty. What’s wrong with you?

you look like a normie tbh nothing wrong here. but you can't compete with chads and achieve your "dreams" with that face no matter what your body looks like or how much muscle you got. u should have gone with your looksmatched girls and now with gymcelling, you can only choose a looksmatched girl again (no improvement to stacies or top tier girls imo and thats pointless )

 

[.*my*.]

you look like a normie tbh nothing wrong here. but you can't compete with chads and achieve your "dreams" with that face no matter what your body looks like or how much muscle you got. u should have gone with your looksmatched girls and now with gymcelling, you can only choose a looksmatched girl again (no improvement to stacies or top tier girls imo and thats pointless )

Except I ain’t normie.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

No. Endomorph just gets fat easier. If you have to stuff yourself to get fat, like I do, then you’re ecto-mesomorph.

I ment if both guys trained for years and got lean can you tell which is endo and which is ecto?

 

[.*my*.]

I ment if both guys trained for years and got lean can you tell which is endo and which is ecto?

If they had the same exact diet and training yes, you would be able to tell the difference with ease.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

If they had the same exact diet and training yes, you would be able to tell the difference with ease.

I ment just by looking at their physique and bone structure without knowing anything about them

 

[.*my*.]

I ment just by looking at their physique and bone structure without knowing anything about them

Yes. One will carry less body fat and usually have smaller bones.

 

[mortis]

Except I ain’t normie.

you look like chadlite as an athnic but high tier normie in west. depends on where you live tbh but pretty attractive imo. 5 psl keep gymcelling its not a waste of time with that face tbh

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Yes. One will carry less body fat and usually have smaller bones.

You seem to be a ecto-meso then you have a wide frame

 

[.*my*.]

You seem to be a ecto-meso then you have a wide frame

Yes I think I am a mix.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Yes I think I am a mix.

Mirin shoulder width

 

[.*my*.]

you look like chadlite as an athnic but high tier normie in west. depends on where you live tbh but pretty attractive imo. 5 psl keep gymcelling its not a waste of time with that face tbh

I may send you a pic once I get shredded and down to 8% and you give me a rate alright? That face pic was old before I started face looksmaxxing.

 

[.*my*.]

Mirin shoulder width

Thanks

 

[.*my*.]

B

 

[Deleted member 7192]

you look like a normie tbh nothing wrong here. but you can't compete with chads and achieve your "dreams" with that face no matter what your body looks like or how much muscle you got. u should have gone with your looksmatched girls and now with gymcelling, you can only choose a looksmatched girl again (no improvement to stacies or top tier girls imo and thats pointless )

What a utter fucking cope, to deny gymcelling as 4 psl normie will not significantly help is possibly the dumbest thing to say

 

[mortis]

What a utter fucking cope, to deny gymcelling as 4 psl normie will not significantly help is possibly the dumbest thing to say

saying 4psl face with gymcelled body can compete with 6 psl face and average body is the most retarded thing anyone can rhink and cope. it wont help tou are competing against chads overall