Help my cycle at 15

[thramer.]

Im 15.5 years old (tanner 4-5 Well past PHV) im trying to gain height dimorphism bone mass muscle with extra leanness and androgenic effects without stunting growth
this is my cycle:
250 mg test weekly for 10 weeks
200 mg mast weekly for 10 weeks
4.5 iu hgh ed for a year
ai (idk how much)
pct (also idk how much)
is it good and can you help me make the cycle

 

[thuuk]

Up the gh dose and what ancillaries will you be taking?

 

[thramer.]

Up the gh dose and what ancillaries will you be taking?

idk tbh

 

[thuuk]

idk tbh

Take telmi when your bp is high or youre running higher doses, low dose reta if your bloodsugar is high, topical ru when youre using more dht dervs and you should be good. As an AI I'd suggest exemestane because it doesnt have a estrogen rebound, as a pct I'd recommend enclo or novla

 

[ifidonthit6irope]

how tall ru I'm in the same boat

 

[thramer.]

how tall ru I'm in the same boat

around like 174

 

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Im 15.5 years old (tanner 4-5 Well past PHV) im trying to gain height dimorphism bone mass muscle with extra leanness and androgenic effects without stunting growth
this is my cycle:
250 mg test weekly for 10 weeks
200 mg mast weekly for 10 weeks
4.5 iu hgh ed for a year
ai (idk how much)
pct (also idk how much)
is it good and can you help me make the cycle

250 mg test and 4.5 iu HGH with the goal of not closing plates and growing taller

this has to be a joke lmao

 

[thramer.]

250 mg test and 4.5 iu HGH with the goal of not closing plates and growing taller

this has to be a joke lmao

what do you recommend

 

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what do you recommend

im not really about test, untill majority of my growth plates for height is closed, but i know some people advise for androgens

i would say lower test dose and up the HGH dose, and remove mast why do you need it?

 

[thramer.]

im not really about test, untill majority of my growth plates for height is closed, but i know some people advise for androgens

i would say lower test dose and up the HGH dose, and remove mast why do you need it?

i want androgenic effects and a dry look i want increased dimorphism facial hair etc

 

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i want androgenic effects and a dry look i want increased dimorphism facial hair etc

yea well don't associate those with height growth

 

[thramer.]

im not really about test, untill majority of my growth plates for height is closed, but i know some people advise for androgens

i would say lower test dose and up the HGH dose, and remove mast why do you need it?

yea well don't associate those with height growth

how do non-aromatizable androgens affect height when taken for short periods of time because many people advised me by saying that masteron or tren can elevate igf1 markers and they mogulate igf1 expression and do many things for the vertical height and bind to androgen receptors in the face to grow facial bones and cause facial masculinization is it true?

 

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how do non-aromatizable androgens affect height when taken for short periods of time because many people advised me by saying that masteron or tren can elevate igf1 markers and they mogulate igf1 expression and do many things for the vertical height and bind to androgen receptors in the face to grow facial bones and cause facial masculinization is it true?

there's multiple pathways to maturing growth plates, estrodial is only the final signal, so in theory you could probably completly nuke your e2 and blast a shit ton, but thats utterly retrded to do health wise

strong androgens like test and tren contributes massively to chondrocyte prolification in the growth plates which is one of the main driver to why plates close earlier in AAS users

and its well known and regarded that steroids age you way faster so that could be interpreted as growth plates closing faster

but yes, tren greatly improves IGF-1 at the end of the day using androgens can be a bit of a gamble, a bad one as theres much to lose and not that much to gain height wise (sorry for grammar)

 

[thramer.]

there's multiple pathways to maturing growth plates, estrodial is only the final signal, so in theory you could probably completly nuke your e2 and blast a shit ton, but thats utterly retrded to do health wise

strong androgens like test and tren contributes massively to chondrocyte prolification in the growth plates which is one of the main driver to why plates close earlier in AAS users

and its well known and regarded that steroids age you way faster so that could be interpreted as growth plates closing faster

but yes, tren greatly improves IGF-1 at the end of the day using androgens can be a bit of a gamble, a bad one as theres much to lose and not that much to gain height wise (sorry for grammar)

thanks for the advice man