HGH 4 months progress update

[enchanted_elixir]

? What are you implying

Study more so you know how to get what you want looksmaxing-wise.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

i have used genotropin for the past 4 months , 8iu every night although i have missed some doses, aswell as AI and other secondary bs

i gained a total of 1 and a half inch, wow!, changes in my life, none, its still turbo over , im basically 180cm at night,

also i gained like 9 kg, none or very few fat, as i was checked and my bf% decreased from 16% to 14%

and thats it lol, no more changes , no muh fucking skull grows with hgh bro! hgh is magic bro ascends even the tiniest framed indian!

i will continue wageslaving for more hgh tho, i think i will surrender in 6 months, maybe rope aswell

Total cope, just an obsessive disorder full of BDD on natural growth spurt changes occuring during normal puberty (16 is the main age for boys btw), at the very best u will speed up ur growth and finish faster because u will still get retro controlled by ur genes and so not gaining a single extra molecule on ur genetic potential, total waste of money if u are a normal case

Final height after combined growth hormone and gonadotrophin-releasing hormone analogue therapy in short healthy children entering into normally timed puberty - PubMed

We conclude that combined rhGH and GnRH analogue therapy in short adolescents with normally timed puberty does not contribute to increase their final height above their pretreatment predicted adult height; we can therefore not recommend this form of therapy for this group of patients given the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Osie]

Total cope, just an obsessive disorder full of BDD on natural growth spurt changes occuring during normal puberty (16 is the main age for boys btw), at the very best u will speed up ur growth and finish faster because u will still get retro controlled by ur genes and so not gaining a single extra molecule on ur genetic potential, total waste of money if u are a normal case

Final height after combined growth hormone and gonadotrophin-releasing hormone analogue therapy in short healthy children entering into normally timed puberty - PubMed

We conclude that combined rhGH and GnRH analogue therapy in short adolescents with normally timed puberty does not contribute to increase their final height above their pretreatment predicted adult height; we can therefore not recommend this form of therapy for this group of patients given the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

What are you talking about lol. You literally can't just deny someone else's experience? You can call everything cope, and that's a horrible study to use as evidence lol.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

What are you talking about lol. You literally can't just deny someone else's experience? You can call everything cope, and that's a horrible study to use as evidence lol.

That s just one on the many in normal cases

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC390151/

 

[Osie]

That s just one on the many in normal cases

There's no point of me even showing you 20 studies, so for every study you list, I'll show the same amount lol.

Randomized Trial of Aromatase Inhibitors, Growth Hormone, or Combination in Pubertal Boys with Idiopathic, Short Stature - PubMed

Combination therapy with AI/GH increases height potential in pubertal boys with ISS more than GH and AI alone treated for 24-36 months with a strong safety profile.

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Anastrozole increases predicted adult height of short adolescent males treated with growth hormone: a randomized, placebo-controlled, multicenter trial for one to three years - PubMed

Anastrozole increases adult height potential of adolescent boys on GH therapy while maintaining normal pubertal progression after 2-3 yr. This treatment offers an alternative in promoting growth in GH-deficient boys in puberty. Long-term follow up is needed to elucidate fully the safety and...

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[Mrinfinityx]

There's no point of me even showing you 20 studies, so for every study you list, I'll show the same amount lol.

Randomized Trial of Aromatase Inhibitors, Growth Hormone, or Combination in Pubertal Boys with Idiopathic, Short Stature - PubMed

Combination therapy with AI/GH increases height potential in pubertal boys with ISS more than GH and AI alone treated for 24-36 months with a strong safety profile.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Anastrozole increases predicted adult height of short adolescent males treated with growth hormone: a randomized, placebo-controlled, multicenter trial for one to three years - PubMed

Anastrozole increases adult height potential of adolescent boys on GH therapy while maintaining normal pubertal progression after 2-3 yr. This treatment offers an alternative in promoting growth in GH-deficient boys in puberty. Long-term follow up is needed to elucidate fully the safety and...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

That s AI studies, ofc it can have an effect if u have abnormal levels of estrogens (not the case in normal patients like the majority of people even overwieght ones) closing prematurely ur plates, but excess testosterone can also cause premature and short puberty associated with short stature

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9844962/

" Rapid increase of the testosterone dose may cause rapid acceleration of bone maturation, thereby shortening the period of growth. This may compromise adult height. "

 

[Osie]

That s AI studies, ofc it can have an effect if u have abnormal levels of estrogens (not the case in normal patients like the majority of people even overwieght ones) closing prematurely ur plates, but excess testosterone can also cause premature and short puberty associated with short stature

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9844962/

Do you read any studies? And yes, excess test can cause premature growth plate closure since it increases E2 lol. If a child using AI during mid-late puberty and never stops, he will never stop growing. And please stop using studies where they are using literally anti-androgens on developing children lol.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8800791/

Combined therapy with GnRH analogue and growth hormone increases adult height in children with short stature and normal pubertal onset - PubMed

For adolescents with normal pubertal onset and short stature, with or without ISS, GnRHa/rhGH therapy can effectively improve AHtSDS. After treatment, ISS adolescents can reach the THts, and Non-ISS adolescents can exceed their THts.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Do you read any studies? And yes, excess test can cause premature growth plate closure since it increases E2 lol. If a child using AI during mid-late puberty and never stops, he will never stop growing. And please stop using studies where they are using literally anti-androgens on developing children lol.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8800791/

Combined therapy with GnRH analogue and growth hormone increases adult height in children with short stature and normal pubertal onset - PubMed

For adolescents with normal pubertal onset and short stature, with or without ISS, GnRHa/rhGH therapy can effectively improve AHtSDS. After treatment, ISS adolescents can reach the THts, and Non-ISS adolescents can exceed their THts.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Still u will still get genes rectro controlled to death, u cant biohack ur body capacities, it is what it is

Aromatase inhibitors for short stature in male children and adolescents - PubMed

Available evidence suggested that aromatase inhibitors improved short-term growth outcomes. There was no evidence to support an increase in final adult height, based on limited data, with only one of four trials publishing final height data under non-randomised conditions.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

" Authors' conclusions: Available evidence suggested that aromatase inhibitors improved short-term growth outcomes. There was no evidence to support an increase in final adult height, based on limited data, with only one of four trials publishing final height data under non-randomised conditions. "

Outcome analysis of aromatase inhibitor therapy to increase adult height in males with predicted short adult stature and/or rapid pubertal progress: a retrospective chart review - PubMed

We suggest that although bone age progression may be slightly delayed with longer duration of therapy, an overall short-term AI therapy does not lead to a final height that is greater than the predicted pre-therapy height.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Osie]

Still u will still get genes rectro controlled to death, u cant biohack ur body capacities, it is what it is

Aromatase inhibitors for short stature in male children and adolescents - PubMed

Available evidence suggested that aromatase inhibitors improved short-term growth outcomes. There was no evidence to support an increase in final adult height, based on limited data, with only one of four trials publishing final height data under non-randomised conditions.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

" Authors' conclusions: Available evidence suggested that aromatase inhibitors improved short-term growth outcomes. There was no evidence to support an increase in final adult height, based on limited data, with only one of four trials publishing final height data under non-randomised conditions. "

Outcome analysis of aromatase inhibitor therapy to increase adult height in males with predicted short adult stature and/or rapid pubertal progress: a retrospective chart review - PubMed

We suggest that although bone age progression may be slightly delayed with longer duration of therapy, an overall short-term AI therapy does not lead to a final height that is greater than the predicted pre-therapy height.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Aromatase deficiency has clearly shown us that hacking isn't required to have things that weren't aligned in your genetic target to happen.

Letrozole vs anastrozole for height augmentation in short pubertal males: first year data - PubMed

We present first-year data from a direct comparison of anastrozole and letrozole for height augmentation in short pubertal boys. Letrozole was more potent in hormonal manipulation than anastrozole. First-year growth velocities were comparable, but improvement in PAH was greater in the...

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Letrozole significantly improves growth potential in a pubertal boy with growth hormone deficiency - PubMed

Clinical experience with using an aromatase inhibitor to suppress estrogen production during puberty for improvement of growth potential in adolescents with short stature is limited. This report documents treatment of such a patient with a combination of growth hormone and letrozole, a...

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Marked increase of final height by long-term aromatase inhibition in a boy with idiopathic short stature - PubMed

Growth hormone (GH) is the most frequently used treatment in children with idiopathic short stature (ISS). Aromatase inhibitor (AI) therapy is still in an experimental state, and both final height (FH) and long-term efficacy data in ISS have not been published. We present a 14.5-year-old boy...

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Quality of Life in Adolescent Boys with Idiopathic Short Stature: Positive Impact of Growth Hormone and Aromatase Inhibitors - PubMed

Treatment with GH and AI/GH was associated with improved QoL scores as measured from both the patients' and the parents' perspectives, suggesting that the improved growth resulting from the use of these growth-promoting therapies has beneficial psychosocial effects in adolescent males with ISS...

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Height Increment and Laboratory Profile of Boys Treated With Aromatase Inhibitors With or Without Growth Hormone - PubMed

Aromatase inhibitors (AIs) have been used to recover height loss due to their capacity to delay growth plate closure. Long-term studies describing final heights are needed to determine the efficacy and safety profiles of these drugs for the treatment of impaired growth. This study aims to...

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A specific aromatase inhibitor and potential increase in adult height in boys with delayed puberty: a randomised controlled trial - PubMed

Our findings suggest that if oestrogen action is inhibited in growing adolescents, adult height will increase. This finding provides a rationale for studies that aim to delay bone maturation in several growth disorders.

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Height outcomes in children with growth hormone deficiency and idiopathic short stature treated concomitantly with growth hormone and aromatase inhibitor therapy: data from the ANSWER program - PubMed

This trial was sponsored by Novo Nordisk and is registered with ClinicalTrials.gov (NCT01009905). Registered November 11, 2009; retrospectively registered.

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A randomized pilot trial of growth hormone with anastrozole versus growth hormone alone, starting at the very end of puberty in adolescents with idiopathic short stature - PubMed

A combination of rhGH and A, started at the very end of puberty, seems to allow boys with ISS to reach a greater adult height than rhGH alone. Larger trials are needed to confirm this preliminary observation.

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[Osie]

Still u will still get genes rectro controlled to death, u cant biohack ur body capacities, it is what it is

Aromatase inhibitors for short stature in male children and adolescents - PubMed

Available evidence suggested that aromatase inhibitors improved short-term growth outcomes. There was no evidence to support an increase in final adult height, based on limited data, with only one of four trials publishing final height data under non-randomised conditions.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

" Authors' conclusions: Available evidence suggested that aromatase inhibitors improved short-term growth outcomes. There was no evidence to support an increase in final adult height, based on limited data, with only one of four trials publishing final height data under non-randomised conditions. "

Outcome analysis of aromatase inhibitor therapy to increase adult height in males with predicted short adult stature and/or rapid pubertal progress: a retrospective chart review - PubMed

We suggest that although bone age progression may be slightly delayed with longer duration of therapy, an overall short-term AI therapy does not lead to a final height that is greater than the predicted pre-therapy height.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Lol, congrats for showing me that one outlier study and showing me studies with anti-androgens that are only effective for reducing height in girls. Congrats to that author from 2013. And how could there be way to show that AI improves adult height if people stop using it before adulthood lol.

A pilot study of growth hormone administration in boys with predicted adult short stature and near-ending growth - PubMed

Our study suggests that 1) a short period of rhGH administration can increase true adult height significantly in boys with ISS at time of near-ending growth; and 2) knee score rather than BA should be used to identify rhGH responders. These preliminary observations await confirmation by larger...

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Responses to growth hormone (GH) therapy in short children with normal GH secretion and no bone age delay: an analysis of potential factors affecting their response to rhGH therapy. A controlled study - PubMed

We report significant gain in Ht-SDS in prepubertal children with ISS on rhGH therapy and better response in younger children and in those with Ht-SDS > 1 SD below their MP-Ht-SDS.

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Tall Stature without Growth Hormone: Four Male Patients with Aromatase Deficiency

GH secretion is impaired in aromatase-deficient men and is not restored by exogenous estrogens; tall stature is due to unfused epiphyses and other growth f

academic.oup.com

 

[Osie]

Lol, congrats for showing me that one outlier study and showing me studies with anti-androgens that are only effective for reducing height in girls. Congrats to that author from 2013. And how could there be way to show that AI improves adult height if people stop using it before adulthood lol.

A pilot study of growth hormone administration in boys with predicted adult short stature and near-ending growth - PubMed

Our study suggests that 1) a short period of rhGH administration can increase true adult height significantly in boys with ISS at time of near-ending growth; and 2) knee score rather than BA should be used to identify rhGH responders. These preliminary observations await confirmation by larger...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Responses to growth hormone (GH) therapy in short children with normal GH secretion and no bone age delay: an analysis of potential factors affecting their response to rhGH therapy. A controlled study - PubMed

We report significant gain in Ht-SDS in prepubertal children with ISS on rhGH therapy and better response in younger children and in those with Ht-SDS > 1 SD below their MP-Ht-SDS.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Tall Stature without Growth Hormone: Four Male Patients with Aromatase Deficiency

GH secretion is impaired in aromatase-deficient men and is not restored by exogenous estrogens; tall stature is due to unfused epiphyses and other growth f

academic.oup.com

Growth hormone significantly increases the adult height of children with idiopathic short stature: comparison of subgroups and benefit - International Journal of Pediatric Endocrinology

Background Children with Idiopathic Short Stature do not attain a normal adult height. The improvement of adult height with treatment with recombinant human growth hormone (rhGH), at doses of 0.16 to 0.28 mg/kg/week is modest, usually less that 4 cm, and they remain short as adults. The benefit...

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Growth hormone treatment of idiopathic short stature - PubMed

Considerable controversy exists about the use of growth hormone (GH) treatment in short children without classical GH deficiency (idiopathic short stature or ISS). ISS is a multifactorial disorder with many potential causes rather than a single diagnostic entity, and it is in essence a diagnosis...

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Recombinant growth hormone for idiopathic short stature in children and adolescents - PubMed

Results suggest that growth hormone therapy can increase short-term growth and improve (near) final height. Increases in height are such that treated individuals remain relatively short when compared with peers of normal stature. Further research in the form of large, multicentre RCTs are...

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[killaeast]

where did you buy your hgh?

 

[Deleted member 28722]

Still u will still get genes rectro controlled to death, u cant biohack ur body capacities, it is what it is

Aromatase inhibitors for short stature in male children and adolescents - PubMed

Available evidence suggested that aromatase inhibitors improved short-term growth outcomes. There was no evidence to support an increase in final adult height, based on limited data, with only one of four trials publishing final height data under non-randomised conditions.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

" Authors' conclusions: Available evidence suggested that aromatase inhibitors improved short-term growth outcomes. There was no evidence to support an increase in final adult height, based on limited data, with only one of four trials publishing final height data under non-randomised conditions. "

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/247

http://This is so stupid

 

[letsdoit]

Good evening!
You need to just stay consistent and study the biology and biochemistry of looksmaxing if you want the desired results you're seeking.
When you're armed with the right knowledge and money (for supplements, peptides, hormones), then you can take the actions necessary to get the outcome you desire.

Do you help people come up with the right stacks if money is of no concern?

 

[Dystopian]

Total cope, just an obsessive disorder full of BDD on natural growth spurt changes occuring during normal puberty (16 is the main age for boys btw), at the very best u will speed up ur growth and finish faster because u will still get retro controlled by ur genes and so not gaining a single extra molecule on ur genetic potential, total waste of money if u are a normal case

Final height after combined growth hormone and gonadotrophin-releasing hormone analogue therapy in short healthy children entering into normally timed puberty - PubMed

We conclude that combined rhGH and GnRH analogue therapy in short adolescents with normally timed puberty does not contribute to increase their final height above their pretreatment predicted adult height; we can therefore not recommend this form of therapy for this group of patients given the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

99% of males including me are not supposed to gain height after 16, the study you cited used shit tier doses and no ai, although I agree , you can’t surpass your genes, not without any cost atleast

 

[Mrinfinityx]

99% of males including me are not supposed to gain height after 16, the study you cited used shit tier doses and no ai, although I agree , you can’t surpass your genes, not without any cost atleast

Alt least u are not delusional like many here thinking they will biohack somehow and unlock next level, u have my vote

 

[heightmaxxer1133]

i have used genotropin for the past 4 months , 8iu every night although i have missed some doses, aswell as AI and other secondary bs

i gained a total of 1 and a half inch, wow!, changes in my life, none, its still turbo over , im basically 180cm at night,

also i gained like 9 kg, none or very few fat, as i was checked and my bf% decreased from 16% to 14%

and thats it lol, no more changes , no muh fucking skull grows with hgh bro! hgh is magic bro ascends even the tiniest framed indian!

i will continue wageslaving for more hgh tho, i think i will surrender in 6 months, maybe rope aswell

How tall weee u before and after ? Can I ask u some questions in private