HGH at 20

[lazza]

Hey everyone,

I’m a 20-year-old late bloomer considering HGH and possibly other steroids to maximize my growth potential. Since I hit puberty later, there’s a chance my growth plates might still be open (getting an X-ray next month to confirm). My main goals are:
1. **Framemaxxing** – Especially widening my skull and improving bone structure.
2. **Height gain** – If possible, since I might still have some growth left.
3. **Androgenic effects** – I’m hoping to push a second puberty-like phase for better jawline, shoulders, etc.

**Additional context:**
- I’m planning to take **finasteride/dutasteride** to prevent further hair loss (already Norwooding), so I’d like to minimize hair-related side effects.
- Open to **alternative compounds** (like MK-677) if they’re safer but still effective.

**Questions for the forum:**
1. **Growth plates** – If they’re still open, what’s the best protocol to maximize height and bone structure?
2. **Androgenic changes** – Can I realistically expect significant improvements in facial structure and frame at this age?
3. **Hair trade-off** – Will fin/dut interfere with the desired androgenic effects?
4. **Risks vs. rewards** – What’s the safest way to approach this without screwing up my hormones long-term?

Would love to hear from anyone with experience or knowledge on this—especially those who’ve run similar protocols. Thanks in advance

 

[Primal.]

with complete honesty at 20 (end of puberty) there’s absolutely almost no chance you’ll see any massive change with your bones, even with HGH and/or steroids. why? cuz they work mostly during early-mid puberty. I mean, you can still try if your plates are open, but it’s unlikely you’ll see any actual progress, surgery, fillers can be options

 

[lazza]

with complete honesty at 20 (end of puberty) there’s absolutely almost no chance you’ll see any massive change with your bones, even with HGH and/or steroids. why? cuz they work mostly during early-mid puberty. I mean, you can still try if your plates are open, but it’s unlikely you’ll see any actual progress, surgery, fillers can be options

So I should stop coping and just get bimax/trimax to get more projection or lefort 2 and such in turkey or eastern Europe, also should I get palate expander like the surgically assisted one called sarpe before doing any of these more invasive osteotomy?

 

[Primal.]

So I should stop coping and just get bimax/trimax to get more projection or lefort 2 and such in turkey or eastern Europe, also should I get palate expander like the surgically assisted one called sarpe before doing any of these more invasive osteotomy?

Bimax or trimax can ascend your projection, but LeFort 2 is better for most. SARPE first if your maxilla’s narrow as fuck, otherwise straight to bimax

 

[Remeliawpckhardt]

Hey everyone,

I’m a 20-year-old late bloomer considering HGH and possibly other steroids to maximize my growth potential. Since I hit puberty later, there’s a chance my growth plates might still be open (getting an X-ray next month to confirm). My main goals are:
1. **Framemaxxing** – Especially widening my skull and improving bone structure.
2. **Height gain** – If possible, since I might still have some growth left.
3. **Androgenic effects** – I’m hoping to push a second puberty-like phase for better jawline, shoulders, etc.

**Additional context:**
- I’m planning to take **finasteride/dutasteride** to prevent further hair loss (already Norwooding), so I’d like to minimize hair-related side effects.
- Open to **alternative compounds** (like MK-677) if they’re safer but still effective.

**Questions for the forum:**
1. **Growth plates** – If they’re still open, what’s the best protocol to maximize height and bone structure?
2. **Androgenic changes** – Can I realistically expect significant improvements in facial structure and frame at this age?
3. **Hair trade-off** – Will fin/dut interfere with the desired androgenic effects?
4. **Risks vs. rewards** – What’s the safest way to approach this without screwing up my hormones long-term?

Would love to hear from anyone with experience or knowledge on this—especially those who’ve run similar protocols. Thanks in advance

Nigga chat gpted what questions to even ask

 

[lazza]

Nigga chat gpted what questions to even ask

Just told bro to correct grammar and structure and he did this

 

[Remeliawpckhardt]

Just told bro to correct grammar and structure and he did this

DNR

 

[lazza]

Bimax or trimax can ascend your projection, but LeFort 2 is better for most. SARPE first if your maxilla’s narrow as fuck, otherwise straight to bimaxsimce

Bimax or trimax can ascend your projection, but LeFort 2 is better for most. SARPE first if your maxilla’s narrow as fuck, otherwise straight to bimax

Since I'm getting sarpe for narrow palate, what should I get in combination to that to fix narrow lower third and rounded chin, should I for example get braces or fix that with a genio or something?