HGH at 20

[lazza]

Hey everyone,

I’m a 20-year-old late bloomer considering HGH and possibly other steroids to maximize my growth potential. Since I hit puberty later, there’s a chance my growth plates might still be open (getting an X-ray next month to confirm). My main goals are:
1. **Framemaxxing** – Especially widening my skull and improving bone structure.
2. **Height gain** – If possible, since I might still have some growth left.
3. **Androgenic effects** – I’m hoping to push a second puberty-like phase for better jawline, shoulders, etc.

**Additional context:**
- I’m planning to take **finasteride/dutasteride** to prevent further hair loss (already Norwooding), so I’d like to minimize hair-related side effects.
- Open to **alternative compounds** (like MK-677) if they’re safer but still effective.

**Questions for the forum:**
1. **Growth plates** – If they’re still open, what’s the best protocol to maximize height and bone structure?
2. **Androgenic changes** – Can I realistically expect significant improvements in facial structure and frame at this age?
3. **Hair trade-off** – Will fin/dut interfere with the desired androgenic effects?
4. **Risks vs. rewards** – What’s the safest way to approach this without screwing up my hormones long-term?

Would love to hear from anyone with experience or knowledge on this—especially those who’ve run similar protocols. Thanks in advance

 

[Primal.]

with complete honesty at 20 (end of puberty) there’s absolutely almost no chance you’ll see any massive change with your bones, even with HGH and/or steroids. why? cuz they work mostly during early-mid puberty. I mean, you can still try if your plates are open, but it’s unlikely you’ll see any actual progress, surgery, fillers can be options

 

[lazza]

with complete honesty at 20 (end of puberty) there’s absolutely almost no chance you’ll see any massive change with your bones, even with HGH and/or steroids. why? cuz they work mostly during early-mid puberty. I mean, you can still try if your plates are open, but it’s unlikely you’ll see any actual progress, surgery, fillers can be options

So I should stop coping and just get bimax/trimax to get more projection or lefort 2 and such in turkey or eastern Europe, also should I get palate expander like the surgically assisted one called sarpe before doing any of these more invasive osteotomy?

 

[Primal.]

So I should stop coping and just get bimax/trimax to get more projection or lefort 2 and such in turkey or eastern Europe, also should I get palate expander like the surgically assisted one called sarpe before doing any of these more invasive osteotomy?

Bimax or trimax can ascend your projection, but LeFort 2 is better for most. SARPE first if your maxilla’s narrow as fuck, otherwise straight to bimax

 

[Remeliawpckhardt]

Hey everyone,

I’m a 20-year-old late bloomer considering HGH and possibly other steroids to maximize my growth potential. Since I hit puberty later, there’s a chance my growth plates might still be open (getting an X-ray next month to confirm). My main goals are:
1. **Framemaxxing** – Especially widening my skull and improving bone structure.
2. **Height gain** – If possible, since I might still have some growth left.
3. **Androgenic effects** – I’m hoping to push a second puberty-like phase for better jawline, shoulders, etc.

**Additional context:**
- I’m planning to take **finasteride/dutasteride** to prevent further hair loss (already Norwooding), so I’d like to minimize hair-related side effects.
- Open to **alternative compounds** (like MK-677) if they’re safer but still effective.

**Questions for the forum:**
1. **Growth plates** – If they’re still open, what’s the best protocol to maximize height and bone structure?
2. **Androgenic changes** – Can I realistically expect significant improvements in facial structure and frame at this age?
3. **Hair trade-off** – Will fin/dut interfere with the desired androgenic effects?
4. **Risks vs. rewards** – What’s the safest way to approach this without screwing up my hormones long-term?

Would love to hear from anyone with experience or knowledge on this—especially those who’ve run similar protocols. Thanks in advance

Nigga chat gpted what questions to even ask

 

[lazza]

Nigga chat gpted what questions to even ask

Just told bro to correct grammar and structure and he did this

 

[Remeliawpckhardt]

Just told bro to correct grammar and structure and he did this

DNR

 

[lazza]

Bimax or trimax can ascend your projection, but LeFort 2 is better for most. SARPE first if your maxilla’s narrow as fuck, otherwise straight to bimaxsimce

Bimax or trimax can ascend your projection, but LeFort 2 is better for most. SARPE first if your maxilla’s narrow as fuck, otherwise straight to bimax

Since I'm getting sarpe for narrow palate, what should I get in combination to that to fix narrow lower third and rounded chin, should I for example get braces or fix that with a genio or something?

 

[SmilingManlet]

with complete honesty at 20 (end of puberty) there’s absolutely almost no chance you’ll see any massive change with your bones, even with HGH and/or steroids. why? cuz they work mostly during early-mid puberty. I mean, you can still try if your plates are open, but it’s unlikely you’ll see any actual progress, surgery, fillers can be options

He might see some bone growth in clavicles but yeah at 20 he prob won’t grow taller

 

[testosterone36]

taking hgh before 25 is very rare.. this is something new, unheard of, and also a change from what used to go down back then. i think u could grow. the plates can be ossified, but there are levels of ossification and i highly doubt your body is fully done growing before 25 unless u hit puberty at 9.

 

[lazza]

taking hgh before 25 is very rare.. this is something new, unheard of, and also a change from what used to go down back then. i think u could grow. the plates can be ossified, but there are levels of ossification and i highly doubt your body is fully done growing before 25 unless u hit puberty at 9.

Did more research and found out about acromegaly and how brutal it can be, talking about completely fucking up you proportions while coming with no guaranteed height gain.

I know that ascending is about taking risks, but in this case it seems like a bet with bad odds.

For now doing further endocrinology exams to understand better situation and manage expectation about possible height growth.

 

[shootistfr]

why don't you just get a wrist xray and determine your bone age and if your plates are closed or not, if they are then don't take it as you risk a lot of negative effects like acromegaly and organomegaly with pretty much no benefits.

 

[shootistfr]

taking hgh before 25 is very rare.. this is something new, unheard of, and also a change from what used to go down back then. i think u could grow. the plates can be ossified, but there are levels of ossification and i highly doubt your body is fully done growing before 25 unless u hit puberty at 9.

no it isn't. Taking exogenous hgh has been well documented for decades for people with idiopathic short stature.

 

[testosterone36]

no it isn't. Taking exogenous hgh has been well documented for decades for people with idiopathic short stature.

in the sense of kids with no medical concern, taking hgh for bodybuilding and height purposes

 

[Orthognathic]

Tbh all you'll experience is increased cartilage in your ears and nose, not worth it

 

[PrimalPlasty]

1. **Growth plates** – If they’re still open, what’s the best protocol to maximize height and bone structure?

injecting hgh, take aromasine, eat enough maintenance or slightly above

2. **Androgenic changes** – Can I realistically expect significant improvements in facial structure and frame at this age?

check bone age, maybe not too likely if im being honest tho

3. **Hair trade-off** – Will fin/dut interfere with the desired androgenic effects?

nope, dht is not anabolic or bone growth promoting really

4. **Risks vs. rewards** – What’s the safest way to approach this without screwing up my hormones long-term?

if youre just doing dut and mk677 then you got nothing to worry about its not like youre doing an test cycle or anything similar, youll just look better cause of the dut long term

 

[theonlyrealrage]

Nigga chat gpted what questions to even ask

Thought the same LMAO

 

[theonlyrealrage]

Did more research and found out about acromegaly and how brutal it can be, talking about completely fucking up you proportions while coming with no guaranteed height gain.

I know that ascending is about taking risks, but in this case it seems like a bet with bad odds.

For now doing further endocrinology exams to understand better situation and manage expectation about possible height growth.

Do you know how rare this is?

Update us once you’ve found more about the height expectation part though.

 

[theonlyrealrage]

nope, dht is not anabolic or bone growth promoting really

What about browridge?

 

[PrimalPlasty]

What about browridge?

no man, only hgh will do that bro, dht is the biggest and most misunderstood cope hormone oat

 

[lazza]

Do you know how rare this is?

Update us once you’ve found more about the height expectation part though.

Yes I'm working on it, my doctor only sees downsides and doesn't want to give me prescription, I should also note that it's a women so you can understand better the situation.

But I may have found another doctor that can prescribe be hgh, but this only if we found that in deficient and we are waiting for the blood work results.

That would be great cause insurance would cover enormous hgh cost, but even in worst case scenario I will buy it myself.

 

[lazza]

no man, only hgh will do that bro, dht is the biggest and most misunderstood cope hormone oat

If you are not blocking dht in big 2025 I don't even know what you are doing

 

[androgens]

tbh you could try to blast androgens for this purpose.

 

[PrimalPlasty]

If you are not blocking dht in big 2025 I don't even know what you are doing

true

 

[lazza]

tbh you could try to blast androgens for this purpose.

What exactly? Are talking about things that reduce estrogen to avoid growth plates closure, or something else?

 

[theonlyrealrage]

no man, only hgh will do that bro, dht is the biggest and most misunderstood cope hormone oat

Literally how

 

[theonlyrealrage]

Yes I'm working on it, my doctor only sees downsides and doesn't want to give me prescription, I should also note that it's a women so you can understand better the situation.

But I may have found another doctor that can prescribe be hgh, but this only if we found that in deficient and we are waiting for the blood work results.

That would be great cause insurance would cover enormous hgh cost, but even in worst case scenario I will buy it myself.

Rape her

 

[PrimalPlasty]

Literally how

wdym how? thats just how it is

 

[lazza]

Rape her

Rapemaxing is still better than ropemaxing

 

[theonlyrealrage]

Rapemaxing is still better than ropemaxing

Indeed

 

[VrillFatNoob24]

I’m a 20-year-old late bloomer

 

[KJ7]

Any update? Are your plates still open I'm curious?

 

[lazza]

Any update? Are your plates still open I'm curious?

Getting left wrist X ray planned now, should be over by next week.

If plates are still open, even a little bit open, I can guarantee you that I'm blasting that shit, don't give a fuck anymore.

If you don't take the risk once in a while are not a proper lookmaxer, just a copper jester.

 

[KJ7]

Getting left wrist X ray planned now, should be over by next week.

If plates are still open, even a little bit open, I can guarantee you that I'm blasting that shit, don't give a fuck anymore.

If you don't take the risk once in a while are not a proper lookmaxer, just a copper jester.

I'm 17. Got the xray waiting on results. I'm on the same page as you bro if my plates are open I'm pinning immediately

 

[dawooddX]

with complete honesty at 20 (end of puberty) there’s absolutely almost no chance you’ll see any massive change with your bones, even with HGH and/or steroids. why? cuz they work mostly during early-mid puberty. I mean, you can still try if your plates are open, but it’s unlikely you’ll see any actual progress, surgery, fillers can be options

what abt 17

 

[Dr. Greenberg]