Hgh induced prediabetes

[keife]

is it permanent once u quit hgh

 

[Dave1]

depends, if while on hgh u fully turned diabetic, yes. if u went close to diabeto like pre diabetic then u should be alr once u hop off

 

[Mrinfinityx]

is it permanent once u quit hgh

Cope drug if u are not stunted, otherway speeding up ur growth rate until plateau as same growth potential as someone who didnt take anything at the finish line

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Only non cope is anti aging as every male actor is taking it to delay facial bone resorption to an extent

 

[aids]

No

 

[keife]

Cope drug if u are not stunted, otherway speeding up ur growth rate until plateau as same growth potential as someone who didnt take anything at the finish line

Almost like hgh has a million other reasons and I don’t ask this

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Almost like hgh has a million other reasons and I don’t ask this

But ofc it is a factor, skin is better on it for sure, but regular blood check up is a huge turn off

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Some diabetes patients can reverse a bit their resting blood sugars with lifestyle changes and medications but that s it, if u are in prediabete state u have still time to reverse a good part of the side effects

 

[keife]

Some diabetes patients can reverse a bit their resting blood sugars with lifestyle changes and medications but that s it, if u are in prediabete state u have still time to reverse a good part of the side effects

Im not pre Diabetic as far as I know as I don’t have a blood glucose monitor yet also cant couldn’t get bloods when I started I should be able to soon

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Im not pre Diabetic as far as I know as I don’t have a blood glucose monitor yet also cant couldn’t get bloods when I started I should be able to soon

If u are in Europe like me u are cucked for regular blood tests, always going to the doctor to get a prescription for it, no other way around without a monitor

 

[keife]

If u are in Europe like me u are cucked for regular blood tests, always going to the doctor to get a prescription for it, no other way around without a monitor

Nah I got a place near me they always said no to bloods over email but the one time I said im taking stuff they changed there answer to please call for inquires so idk also is this true

 

[keife]

Nah I got a place near me they always said no to bloods over email but the one time I said im taking stuff they changed there answer to please call for inquires so idk also is this trueView attachment 3885845

5iu

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Nah I got a place near me they always said no to bloods over email but the one time I said im taking stuff they changed there answer to please call for inquires so idk also is this trueView attachment 3885845

Idk ur question but use Perplexity for this

 

[keife]

Idk ur question but use Perplexity for this

I asked it Whats the % chance of me getting diabetes from 5iu hgh a day provide me different time Lines

 

[Mrinfinityx]

I asked it Whats the % chance of me getting diabetes from 5iu hgh a day provide me different time Lines

Risk of Developing Diabetes from 5 IU HGH Daily​

Key Points​

• Human Growth Hormone (HGH) at high doses (such as 5 IU/day) is associated with increased risk of insulin resistance and potentially type 2 diabetes, especially with prolonged use or in those with pre-existing risk factors123.
• Exact percentage risk for healthy adults using 5 IU/day is not well established in medical literature, as most studies focus on lower, therapeutic doses and on populations with growth hormone deficiency or other medical conditions456.
• Risk increases with higher doses, longer duration, older age, higher BMI, and family history of diabetes476.

What the Evidence Shows​

General Population Data​

• Incidence of type 2 diabetes in children treated with HGH: Up to a six-fold increase compared to non-treated children, but the absolute prevalence remains low (0.36% in one large registry, mostly at lower doses and in predisposed individuals)68.
• In adults on replacement doses (much lower than 5 IU/day): Diabetes incidence was 2.6 per 100 patient-years (about 2.6% per year), with risk not clearly linked to dose but to other factors like BMI and age54.
• High doses (like 5 IU/day, often used in bodybuilding): There is consensus that risk is higher, but no large-scale studies provide a precise percentage for this dose12.

Timeline of Risk​

Duration of 5 IU HGH Use	Estimated Diabetes Risk	Notes
1 month	Low, but insulin resistance may begin to develop9	Acute changes in glucose metabolism possible, but diabetes rare this early.
3-6 months	Moderate, especially if risk factors present106	Some cases of impaired glucose tolerance or diabetes reported after 1-3 months at high doses.
1 year	Increased, especially with continued high dose45	Risk rises with duration, especially if other risk factors exist.
2+ years	Significantly increased, especially in predisposed individuals486	Long-term use at high doses is strongly associated with impaired glucose tolerance and diabetes.

Factors That Increase Your Risk​

• Pre-existing risk factors: Family history of diabetes, obesity, metabolic syndrome, or impaired glucose tolerance136.
• Higher dose and longer duration: Both increase risk substantially48.
• Age and sex: Older age and female sex may increase risk4.

Summary Table​

Timeline	Estimated Risk (%)	Notes
1 month	<1%	Insulin resistance may start, diabetes rare910
3-6 months	1-3%	Risk rises, especially with risk factors106
1 year	2-6%	Based on registry data for lower doses; likely higher at 5 IU/day45
2+ years	6%+	Risk increases further with time and dose486

These are rough estimates based on available data for lower doses; actual risk at 5 IU/day may be higher, especially with other risk factors.

Important Warnings​

• No safe high-dose threshold: 5 IU/day is considered a high, non-therapeutic dose and is not recommended for healthy individuals21.
• Diabetes risk is cumulative: The longer and higher the dose, the greater the risk.
• Other serious side effects: Besides diabetes, high-dose HGH can cause joint pain, edema, hypertension, and increased risk of certain cancers2.

Consult a healthcare professional before considering HGH use, especially at high doses. Regular monitoring of blood glucose and metabolic health is essential if HGH is used for any reason.

1. https://www.droracle.ai/articles/36468/hgh-and-diabetic-risk
2. https://www.tga.gov.au/news/blog/too-much-good-thing-health-risks-human-growth-hormone
3. https://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=12267
4. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5642081/
5. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3241307/
6. https://jcrpe.org/articles/glucose-...owth-hormone/doi/jcrpe.galenos.2019.2019.0281
7. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)73362-6/fulltext
8. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0140673699040556
9. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/8/2548/2834611
10. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4509349/
11. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23746867/
12. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/85/11/4173/2854126
13. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.2147/tcrm.s2495
14. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7606590/
15. https://agelessforever.net/anti-aging-news-blog/growth-hormone-treatment-dosing-and-monitoring/
16. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/4/1291/2896750
17. https://diabetesjournals.org/diabet...ute-Metabolic-Effects-of-Human-Growth-Hormone
18. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)73360-2/fulltext
19. https://www.nature.com/articles/s44324-024-00025-2
20. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0026049504000216
21. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone
22. https://www.termedia.pl/Human-growt...es-past-present-and-future,138,54352,1,1.html
23. https://harleystreet-md.co.uk/blog/human-growth-hormones-and-bodybuilding/
24. https://www.e-dmj.org/journal/view.php?number=1113
26. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/7/2255/2834501
27. https://touroscholar.touro.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1343&context=sjlcas

Double the percentage as a security for ur dose

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Why not halving ur dosage to 2 ui for preventive measures ?

 

[keife]

Why not halving ur dosage to 2 ui for preventive measures ?

Like 2 doses a day?

 

[keife]

Risk of Developing Diabetes from 5 IU HGH Daily​

Key Points​

• Human Growth Hormone (HGH) at high doses (such as 5 IU/day) is associated with increased risk of insulin resistance and potentially type 2 diabetes, especially with prolonged use or in those with pre-existing risk factors123.
• Exact percentage risk for healthy adults using 5 IU/day is not well established in medical literature, as most studies focus on lower, therapeutic doses and on populations with growth hormone deficiency or other medical conditions456.
• Risk increases with higher doses, longer duration, older age, higher BMI, and family history of diabetes476.

What the Evidence Shows​

General Population Data​

• Incidence of type 2 diabetes in children treated with HGH: Up to a six-fold increase compared to non-treated children, but the absolute prevalence remains low (0.36% in one large registry, mostly at lower doses and in predisposed individuals)68.
• In adults on replacement doses (much lower than 5 IU/day): Diabetes incidence was 2.6 per 100 patient-years (about 2.6% per year), with risk not clearly linked to dose but to other factors like BMI and age54.
• High doses (like 5 IU/day, often used in bodybuilding): There is consensus that risk is higher, but no large-scale studies provide a precise percentage for this dose12.

Timeline of Risk​

Duration of 5 IU HGH Use	Estimated Diabetes Risk	Notes
1 month	Low, but insulin resistance may begin to develop9	Acute changes in glucose metabolism possible, but diabetes rare this early.
3-6 months	Moderate, especially if risk factors present106	Some cases of impaired glucose tolerance or diabetes reported after 1-3 months at high doses.
1 year	Increased, especially with continued high dose45	Risk rises with duration, especially if other risk factors exist.
2+ years	Significantly increased, especially in predisposed individuals486	Long-term use at high doses is strongly associated with impaired glucose tolerance and diabetes.

Factors That Increase Your Risk​

• Pre-existing risk factors: Family history of diabetes, obesity, metabolic syndrome, or impaired glucose tolerance136.
• Higher dose and longer duration: Both increase risk substantially48.
• Age and sex: Older age and female sex may increase risk4.

Summary Table​

Timeline	Estimated Risk (%)	Notes
1 month	<1%	Insulin resistance may start, diabetes rare910
3-6 months	1-3%	Risk rises, especially with risk factors106
1 year	2-6%	Based on registry data for lower doses; likely higher at 5 IU/day45
2+ years	6%+	Risk increases further with time and dose486

These are rough estimates based on available data for lower doses; actual risk at 5 IU/day may be higher, especially with other risk factors.

Important Warnings​

• No safe high-dose threshold: 5 IU/day is considered a high, non-therapeutic dose and is not recommended for healthy individuals21.
• Diabetes risk is cumulative: The longer and higher the dose, the greater the risk.
• Other serious side effects: Besides diabetes, high-dose HGH can cause joint pain, edema, hypertension, and increased risk of certain cancers2.

Consult a healthcare professional before considering HGH use, especially at high doses. Regular monitoring of blood glucose and metabolic health is essential if HGH is used for any reason.

1. https://www.droracle.ai/articles/36468/hgh-and-diabetic-risk
2. https://www.tga.gov.au/news/blog/too-much-good-thing-health-risks-human-growth-hormone
3. https://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=12267
4. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5642081/
5. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3241307/
6. https://jcrpe.org/articles/glucose-...owth-hormone/doi/jcrpe.galenos.2019.2019.0281
7. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)73362-6/fulltext
8. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0140673699040556
9. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/8/2548/2834611
10. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4509349/
11. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23746867/
12. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/85/11/4173/2854126
13. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.2147/tcrm.s2495
14. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7606590/
15. https://agelessforever.net/anti-aging-news-blog/growth-hormone-treatment-dosing-and-monitoring/
16. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/4/1291/2896750
17. https://diabetesjournals.org/diabet...ute-Metabolic-Effects-of-Human-Growth-Hormone
18. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)73360-2/fulltext
19. https://www.nature.com/articles/s44324-024-00025-2
20. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0026049504000216
21. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone
22. https://www.termedia.pl/Human-growt...es-past-present-and-future,138,54352,1,1.html
23. https://harleystreet-md.co.uk/blog/human-growth-hormones-and-bodybuilding/
24. https://www.e-dmj.org/journal/view.php?number=1113
26. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/7/2255/2834501
27. https://touroscholar.touro.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1343&context=sjlcas

Double the percentage as a security for ur dose

I thought the percent % would be way more wtf

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Like 2 doses a day?

Just taking 2 UI a day for anabolism and skin benefits ?

 

[Mrinfinityx]

I thought the percent % would be way more wtf

12% of chance after a year of 5 UI is still high for a full diabete, we are not talking about prediabete here

 

[keife]

Just taking 2 UI a day for anabolism and skin benefits ?

Yk why im taking ts lmao I know ppl say it’s cope but I’m gonna try either way plus it should help with those things

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Yk why im taking ts lmao I know ppl say it’s cope but I’m gonna try either way plus it should help with those things

If u can afford it why wouldnt u after 30 yo when ur natural GH production decline leading to facial bone resorption long term if u stay minimalist ?

 

[keife]

If u can afford it why wouldnt u after 30 yo when ur natural GH production decline leading to facial bone resorption long term if u stay minimalist ?

Wym

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Wym

When ur natural GH will drop through aging it is even more benefical to run it to compensate the loss with a low dose for a physiological standpoint and assuring to MOG everyone through aging as everybody else will start to resorb faster than u, no botox or facelift or skin can cope resorbed facial bones, i think at low doses u wouldnt even need to cycle it for receptors sensitivity downregulation risk factor