Hgh is useless

[iblameoverbite_01]

So ivea read some studies about the whole Hgh thing and ive come to realise that a teenage body already produces 3-6 ius of growth hormone. During a strong puberty growth spurt up to 9-12 temporarily. And the hgh you inject takes over the whole systems so the hgh you take arent going to be additioned to your naturual production. So wouldnt that make hgh useless?

 

[Zagro]

So ivea read some studies about the whole Hgh thing and ive come to realise that a teenage body already produces 3-6 ius of growth hormone. During a strong puberty growth spurt up to 9-12 temporarily. And the hgh you inject takes over the whole systems so the hgh you take arent going to be additioned to your naturual production. So wouldnt that make hgh useless?

You don’t produce 3-6 nor 9-12 they’re all in short pulsatile manner and very short spikes which don’t fucking do anything compared to exogenously injected hGH which gives you a continuous amount of the injected dose

Please do your own research instead of reading random retarded greys threads

 

[Jeremy Meeks]

You don’t produce 3-6 nor 9-12 they’re all in short pulsatile manner and very short spikes which don’t fucking do anything compared to exogenously injected hGH which gives you a continuous amount of the injected dose

Please do your own research instead of reading random retarded greys threads

exogenous HGH is also short acting, even if you got the new extended release shit(forgot how it’s called), it wouldn’t be optimal for bone growth

Even the HGH deficient kids don’t get much Growth I doubt you’ll get much out of exogenous GH when you aren’t deficient but still try I want to see how it goes, I myself am not in a position where I can easily try

 

[Zagro]

exogenous HGH is also short acting, even if you got the new extended release shit(forgot how it’s called), it wouldn’t be optimal for bone growth

Even the HGH deficient kids don’t get much Growth I doubt you’ll get much out of exogenous GH when you aren’t deficient but still try I want to see how it goes, I myself am not in a position where I can easily try

What are you even saying brah? Do you mean that it isn’t continuous if not injected on the daily? Well no shit

 

[laworg]

So ivea read some studies about the whole Hgh thing and ive come to realise that a teenage body already produces 3-6 ius of growth hormone. During a strong puberty growth spurt up to 9-12 temporarily. And the hgh you inject takes over the whole systems so the hgh you take arent going to be additioned to your naturual production. So wouldnt that make hgh useless?

Key word “during our strongest growth spurt” Wheres tha study

 

[Jeremy Meeks]

What are you even saying brah? Do you mean that it isn’t continuous if not injected on the daily? Well no shit

Somatotropin has the same half life as Somatropin

 

[Luca_.]

Depends on what you mean by useless. Useless for ,,bonemass”? Yes, useless for things like muscle growth? No

 

[mogging2eternity]

useless for height since a normal human will reach his genetic limit nontheless. hgh accelerates the process, only useful if u start at 8 if u have a gh deficit, and most kids on gh will still only get a few cm extra. hgh for bones: useless will not give you bonemass, hgh for muscles: good but water retention is shit cause after the cycle you loose so much water and half the gains

 

[mogging2eternity]

@Zagro nigga always reps me with or . tell me what you think im interested

 

[SlayerJonas]

useless for height since a normal human will reach his genetic limit nontheless. hgh accelerates the process, only useful if u start at 8 if u have a gh deficit, and most kids on gh will still only get a few cm extra. hgh for bones: useless will not give you bonemass, hgh for muscles: good but water retention is shit cause after the cycle you loose so much water and half the gains

@Zagro denying this is retarded.

Depends on what you mean by useless. Useless for ,,bonemass”? Yes, useless for things like muscle growth? No

For muscle growth only if coupled with androgens. It's good for sleep and recovery.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Depends on what you mean by useless. Useless for ,,bonemass”? Yes, useless for things like muscle growth? No

GH isn't anabolic.

 

[Luca_.]

@Zagro denying this is retarded.

For muscle growth only if coupled with androgens. It's good for sleep and recovery.

GH isn't anabolic.

I actually wasn’t aware of that. Thanks for informing me

 

[Oesteogenesis]

@Zagro denying this is retarded.

For muscle growth only if coupled with androgens. It's good for sleep and recovery.

Fatloss too

 

[jeremyy]

So ivea read some studies about the whole Hgh thing and ive come to realise that a teenage body already produces 3-6 ius of growth hormone. During a strong puberty growth spurt up to 9-12 temporarily. And the hgh you inject takes over the whole systems so the hgh you take arent going to be additioned to your naturual production. So wouldnt that make hgh useless?

yes

 

[Zagro]

useless for height since a normal human will reach his genetic limit nontheless.

A normal human is not guaranteed to reach his genetic limit nonetheless, there are many epigenetic factors that affect the final height.

hgh accelerates the process, only useful if u start at 8 if u have a gh deficit, and most kids on gh will still only get a few cm extra.

hGH doesn't just increase growth velocity, explaining it to you won't do much aswell as your peanut brain can't comprehend this. Your only source of information is off .org threads written by absolute retarded greys and some posts by actual high iq people overexaggerating things, i hate when retards like you and @Luca_. spread misinformation without a singular molecule of knowledge about the topic they're talking about but still act cocky.

Let me first explain why hGH works better for people with GHD and ISS.
Idiopathic short stature (ISS) patients may have varying degrees of insulin-like growth factor deficiency, others with growth hormone deficiency have normal IGF-1 levels, so most ISS patients have IGF-1 deficiency whilst GHD patients just suffer from growth hormone deficiency if it isn´t that extreme. The height standard deviation score (HtSDS) of children with ISS who had low pretreatment IGFISDS (insulin-like growth factor I standard deviation score, IGF-1 levels in the blood compared to the average of the individuals age and gender) significantly lower compared to the normal IGFI group (patients with GHD in this case).

"After 1 year of treatment with rhGH (0.035-0.06 mg/kg/day) IGFISDS increased significantly in both groups (p<0.05). Both had significantly increased HtSDS (catch-up growth)." As you can read, post-treatment results show that of course as expected the IGF-1 levels in the blood of the individual compared to their peers increase significantly which helps them catch-up, any increases in final height aren´t tracked in this study and the doses were very low 1.75-3 units so u don't even need 8 units for the "acceleration process" (1).

"most kids on gh will still only get a few cm extra." You do agree that it works actually, i do see that you said it works on kids but what's the difference between a kid and a teenager with open plates? Their bone age just shows that they should experience more growth as they have a bigger time window for it rather than what a teenager has on the average, just use an aromatase inhibitor and hGH to avoid any complications with aging your bone which is possible to happen with hGH usage. So bone age is only important to know how much gains there would be, but there will be gains for sure. Another retarded called @CertifiedGoy suggests that extra bone growth isn't possible with any stack or compound because you have a set certain number of chondrocytes. This is another interesting thing and important for estimating how effective any stack would be, as you're younger you have more chondrocytes at epiphyseal plates so when they proliferate theres a bigger amount rather than what a teenager would have like basically your baseline chondrocytes matter, but still don't mean that extra growth isn't possible. If you're really desperate like me there are many other growth pathways that will and can increase the amount of chondrocytes so more possible growth.

hgh for bones: useless will not give you bonemass, hgh for muscles: good but water retention is shit cause after the cycle you loose so much water and half the gains

hGH for bones: Works decent by itself but there are many other compounds that synergise well and increase its efficiency, if you don't know what you're doing sure it could have minimal effects.

hGH for muscles: Pretty shit by itself but synergises well with other compounds mainly just gear but still works.
"good but water retention is shit cause after the cycle you loose so much water and half the gains" So basically half the "gains" are water weight

@Zagro nigga always reps me with or . tell me what you think im interested

Yeah your posts are pure cagefuel and retarded i can't restrain myself from reacting with those

GH isn't anabolic.

It does put you in an anabolic state no?

@Zagro denying this is retarded.

For muscle growth only if coupled with androgens. It's good for sleep and recovery.

You literally said yourself that it will work but just isn't worth the possible sides and effort for a few centimeters but i don't agree with that. I have never denied that it works better if you're a fucking zygote but it still does work later on at older ages.

 

[Luca_.]

hGH for bones: Works decent by itself but there are many other compounds that synergise well and increase its efficiency, if you don't know what you're doing sure it could have minimal effects.

What compound should I take for mogger bonemass?

 

[Zagro]

What compound should I take for mogger bonemass?

Look at you proving my point you fucking retarded creature keep fucking rotting on offtopic, from 2023 till now you haven't done a singular looksmax or learned jackshit you fucking moron

 

[Luca_.]

Look at you proving my point you fucking retarded creature keep fucking rotting on offtopic, from 2023 till now you haven't done a singular looksmax or learned jackshit you fucking moron

Lol I haven’t been rotting since 2023 I’ve been rotting since late aug this year. Answer my question

 

[Zagro]

Lol I haven’t been rotting since 2023 I’ve been rotting since late aug this year. Answer my question

you haven't done a singular looksmax or learned jackshit you fucking moron

Do some research and find the answer yourself, there's nothing that will give extreme nor fast results other than surgery but you fucking can't afford that can you. Stop trying to put me down with retarded ass questions and keep jerking off till death you idiot, go out and socialise so that atleast a handfull amount of people would waste their time and attend your funeral.

 

[Luca_.]

Do some research and find the answer yourself, there's nothing that will give extreme nor fast results other than surgery but you fucking can't afford that can you. Stop trying to put me down with retarded ass questions and keep jerking off till death you idiot, go out and socialise so that atleast a handfull amount of people would waste their time and attend your funeral.

You got mad at me for asking a genuine question. I didn’t even contradict the shit you said about height growth, I just asked what would be best for craniofacial growth

 

[Zagro]

You got mad at me for asking a genuine question. I didn’t even contradict the shit you said about height growth, I just asked what would be best for craniofacial growth

Don't act like a total idiot "What compound should I take for mogger bonemass?" this isn't a genuine question. You may have not contradicted anything that I personally have said but that doesn't change the fact that you spread misinformation in others threads. You cant spot treat your craniofacial recessions nor can you localise the growth with compounds that work systemically.

I'm so fucking stressed and on top of that i now have to deal with this shit, i have never had short bursts of anger like this ever since i was on roids. Don't mind me throwing random slurs in every sentence please

 

[slaters]

@9-5worker

 

[Luca_.]

Don't act like a total idiot "What compound should I take for mogger bonemass?" this isn't a genuine question. You may have not contradicted anything that I personally have said but that doesn't change the fact that you spread misinformation in others threads. You cant spot treat your craniofacial recessions nor can you localise the growth with compounds that work systemically.

I'm so fucking stressed and on top of that i now have to deal with this shit, i have never had short bursts of anger like this ever since i was on roids. Don't mind me throwing random slurs in every sentence please

I also hate niggers that talk out of their ass and maybe I was one. I try to be as open minded as possible, maybe at first it wasn’t a genuine question, but what would be better for cranial growth other than hgh?

 

[Luca_.]

@9-5worker

Blud tagged a random grey

 

[slaters]

Blud tagged a random grey

He has me on ignored I wanted to look at his profile

 

[ItsSoGymMaxx]

its insanely good for muscle growth even at lower doses

 

[mogmypsl999]

realise that a teenage body already produces 3-6 ius of growth hormone. During a strong puberty growth spurt up to 9-12 temporarily.

 

[Zagro]

I also hate niggers that talk out of their ass and maybe I was one. I try to be as open minded as possible, maybe at first it wasn’t a genuine question, but what would be better for cranial growth other than hgh?

There are thousands of growth pathways and you can even use shit that change the was your genes get expressed and more, don't you think that it won't cause any noticeable effect? I mean only hgh sure theres a good chance that it won't cause any significant effects but as you target more pathways and inhibit detrimental ones it will logically work better.

So the answer to the questions what would be better for cranial growth other than hGH largely depends on what you're willing to risk and budget (not extreme amounts that are just equivalent to getting surgery), there are so many ways to have an positive effect on bone tissue and formation itself. If you look into it a little bit even on the forum you will find some example stacks and compounds, but even with those type of compounds there is misinformation like certain HDACi being good for bone formation whilst its detrimental with consistent use, just an example.

 

[CertifiedGoy]

Another retarded called @CertifiedGoy

Too far bud, too far

 

[Zagro]

Too far bud, too far

Sorry bro i was genuinely tweaking when i wrote this, my gear order may have been seized again i think

 

[NoaA99]

A normal human is not guaranteed to reach his genetic limit nonetheless, there are many epigenetic factors that affect the final height.

hGH doesn't just increase growth velocity, explaining it to you won't do much aswell as your peanut brain can't comprehend this. Your only source of information is off .org threads written by absolute retarded greys and some posts by actual high iq people overexaggerating things, i hate when retards like you and @Luca_. spread misinformation without a singular molecule of knowledge about the topic they're talking about but still act cocky.

Let me first explain why hGH works better for people with GHD and ISS.
Idiopathic short stature (ISS) patients may have varying degrees of insulin-like growth factor deficiency, others with growth hormone deficiency have normal IGF-1 levels, so most ISS patients have IGF-1 deficiency whilst GHD patients just suffer from growth hormone deficiency if it isn´t that extreme. The height standard deviation score (HtSDS) of children with ISS who had low pretreatment IGFISDS (insulin-like growth factor I standard deviation score, IGF-1 levels in the blood compared to the average of the individuals age and gender) significantly lower compared to the normal IGFI group (patients with GHD in this case).

"After 1 year of treatment with rhGH (0.035-0.06 mg/kg/day) IGFISDS increased significantly in both groups (p<0.05). Both had significantly increased HtSDS (catch-up growth)." As you can read, post-treatment results show that of course as expected the IGF-1 levels in the blood of the individual compared to their peers increase significantly which helps them catch-up, any increases in final height aren´t tracked in this study and the doses were very low 1.75-3 units so u don't even need 8 units for the "acceleration process" (1).

"most kids on gh will still only get a few cm extra." You do agree that it works actually, i do see that you said it works on kids but what's the difference between a kid and a teenager with open plates? Their bone age just shows that they should experience more growth as they have a bigger time window for it rather than what a teenager has on the average, just use an aromatase inhibitor and hGH to avoid any complications with aging your bone which is possible to happen with hGH usage. So bone age is only important to know how much gains there would be, but there will be gains for sure. Another retarded called @CertifiedGoy suggests that extra bone growth isn't possible with any stack or compound because you have a set certain number of chondrocytes. This is another interesting thing and important for estimating how effective any stack would be, as you're younger you have more chondrocytes at epiphyseal plates so when they proliferate theres a bigger amount rather than what a teenager would have like basically your baseline chondrocytes matter, but still don't mean that extra growth isn't possible. If you're really desperate like me there are many other growth pathways that will and can increase the amount of chondrocytes so more possible growth.

hGH for bones: Works decent by itself but there are many other compounds that synergise well and increase its efficiency, if you don't know what you're doing sure it could have minimal effects.

hGH for muscles: Pretty shit by itself but synergises well with other compounds mainly just gear but still works.
"good but water retention is shit cause after the cycle you loose so much water and half the gains" So basically half the "gains" are water weight


Yeah your posts are pure cagefuel and retarded i can't restrain myself from reacting with those


It does put you in an anabolic state no?


You literally said yourself that it will work but just isn't worth the possible sides and effort for a few centimeters but i don't agree with that. I have never denied that it works better if you're a fucking zygote but it still does work later on at older ages.

GH alone has a very limited direct anabolic impact, especially if we are talking about adults here. It won’t alter bone morphology at all.
GH primarily binds to the GH receptor GHR, initiating the JAK2-STAT5 signal-cascade.
In the end, this cascade activates the transcription of GH-responsive genes in the nucleus, including the IGF-1 gene, whose mRNA is then translated into the protein by ribosomes
Most circulating IGF-1 is produced in the liver, where GH stimulation significantly increases systemic IGF-1 levels in the bloodstream. This distinction is important because GH does not substantially elevate local/ paracrine IGF-1 concentrations within target tissues like muscle or bone. Simply measuring your IGF-1 levels in the blood doesn’t tell you, whether it has any effect on your actual goals.
Chronic elevation of systemic IGF-1 can substantially increase the risk of organ hypertrophy.
Due to its effect on the lipolysis, the body preferentially uses fat for energy and reduces glucose uptake in muscle and adipose tissue. So, glucose can’t properly enter the cells anymore.
As a result, blood glucose remains elevated in the bloodstream, triggering compensatory insulin secretion, which eventually leads to insulin resistance after prolonged use.

Also, GH-IGF-1 signalling is influenced by several modulators, including the expression and sensitivity of IGF-1 receptors in target tissues, the efficiency of downstream signalling through PI3K-Akt-mTOR and MAPK pathways, and natural negative feedback at the hypothalamus and pituitary mediated by somatostatin and IGF-1 to prevent overexposure, and Tumor development.
Thyroid hormones, like free T3, enhance GHR expression and GH sensitivity, though excessive T3 can be catabolic.
Some IGFBPs regulate IGF-1 bioavailability and tissue access, while insulin supports anabolic processes.

 

[mogging2eternity]

A normal human is not guaranteed to reach his genetic limit nonetheless, there are many epigenetic factors that affect the final height.

hGH doesn't just increase growth velocity, explaining it to you won't do much aswell as your peanut brain can't comprehend this. Your only source of information is off .org threads written by absolute retarded greys and some posts by actual high iq people overexaggerating things, i hate when retards like you and @Luca_. spread misinformation without a singular molecule of knowledge about the topic they're talking about but still act cocky.

Let me first explain why hGH works better for people with GHD and ISS.
Idiopathic short stature (ISS) patients may have varying degrees of insulin-like growth factor deficiency, others with growth hormone deficiency have normal IGF-1 levels, so most ISS patients have IGF-1 deficiency whilst GHD patients just suffer from growth hormone deficiency if it isn´t that extreme. The height standard deviation score (HtSDS) of children with ISS who had low pretreatment IGFISDS (insulin-like growth factor I standard deviation score, IGF-1 levels in the blood compared to the average of the individuals age and gender) significantly lower compared to the normal IGFI group (patients with GHD in this case).

"After 1 year of treatment with rhGH (0.035-0.06 mg/kg/day) IGFISDS increased significantly in both groups (p<0.05). Both had significantly increased HtSDS (catch-up growth)." As you can read, post-treatment results show that of course as expected the IGF-1 levels in the blood of the individual compared to their peers increase significantly which helps them catch-up, any increases in final height aren´t tracked in this study and the doses were very low 1.75-3 units so u don't even need 8 units for the "acceleration process" (1).

"most kids on gh will still only get a few cm extra." You do agree that it works actually, i do see that you said it works on kids but what's the difference between a kid and a teenager with open plates? Their bone age just shows that they should experience more growth as they have a bigger time window for it rather than what a teenager has on the average, just use an aromatase inhibitor and hGH to avoid any complications with aging your bone which is possible to happen with hGH usage. So bone age is only important to know how much gains there would be, but there will be gains for sure. Another retarded called @CertifiedGoy suggests that extra bone growth isn't possible with any stack or compound because you have a set certain number of chondrocytes. This is another interesting thing and important for estimating how effective any stack would be, as you're younger you have more chondrocytes at epiphyseal plates so when they proliferate theres a bigger amount rather than what a teenager would have like basically your baseline chondrocytes matter, but still don't mean that extra growth isn't possible. If you're really desperate like me there are many other growth pathways that will and can increase the amount of chondrocytes so more possible growth.

hGH for bones: Works decent by itself but there are many other compounds that synergise well and increase its efficiency, if you don't know what you're doing sure it could have minimal effects.

hGH for muscles: Pretty shit by itself but synergises well with other compounds mainly just gear but still works.
"good but water retention is shit cause after the cycle you loose so much water and half the gains" So basically half the "gains" are water weight


Yeah your posts are pure cagefuel and retarded i can't restrain myself from reacting with those


It does put you in an anabolic state no?


You literally said yourself that it will work but just isn't worth the possible sides and effort for a few centimeters but i don't agree with that. I have never denied that it works better if you're a fucking zygote but it still does work later on at older ages.

i never said hgh doesnt work it does work of course. for example a human has a genetic height limit of 180, if he has a hgh defecit he will get prescribed hgh and if he starts at a very young age he will will get for example +10cm. if this human has normal hgh levels and he is for example 175 he will grow to 180 and not more. doesnr matter if he takes hgh. and now guess what happens if u start hgh at 15. nothing maybe half a centimeter but for most people nothing happens. there are people who stop growing at 15 then get a growth spurt at 17. some grow till 15 and then never again like me. „b but hgh grows bones doesnr matter what your genetics is“ yes it technically does bit the amount of bonemass you get from running hgh is non visible. if u want to get bonemass we are speaking about a few mm in the face. a few mm are impossible. look at rira: extreme good bones no roids extremely shit diet alcoholic and drug abuser while others who care about diet and sleep look like faggot. this shows that genetics are almost everything maybe your bones will grow in your foot will grow a few nanometers after a cycle hgh but in the face rarely. and hgh is not anabolic, igf is though but hgh is not igf. the only factor that is important for your height is genetic and the diet of your parents before you were born. keep coping with hgh. your t-rna only transports amino acids to the ribosomes that it can find on the dna on the nucleotides paires

 

[Zagro]

i never said hgh doesnt work it does work of course. for example a human has a genetic height limit of 180, if he has a hgh defecit he will get prescribed hgh and if he starts at a very young age he will will get for example +10cm. if this human has normal hgh levels and he is for example 175 he will grow to 180 and not more. doesnr matter if he takes hgh. and now guess what happens if u start hgh at 15. nothing maybe half a centimeter but for most people nothing happens. there are people who stop growing at 15 then get a growth spurt at 17. some grow till 15 and then never again like me. „b but hgh grows bones doesnr matter what your genetics is“ yes it technically does bit the amount of bonemass you get from running hgh is non visible. if u want to get bonemass we are speaking about a few mm in the face. a few mm are impossible. look at rira: extreme good bones no roids extremely shit diet alcoholic and drug abuser while others who care about diet and sleep look like faggot. this shows that genetics are almost everything maybe your bones will grow in your foot will grow a few nanometers after a cycle hgh but in the face rarely. and hgh is not anabolic, igf is though but hgh is not igf. the only factor that is important for your height is genetic and the diet of your parents before you were born. keep coping with hgh. your t-rna only transports amino acids to the ribosomes that it can find on the dna on the nucleotides paires

I swear man the less you talk the more intelligent you seem, so I'd suggest you to just shut up to be honest as you're making the situation worse for yourself

 

[mogging2eternity]

I swear man the less you talk the more intelligent you seem, so I'd suggest you to just shut up to be honest as you're making the situation worse for yourself

keep coping bitch. accept the reality that hgh is useless if u want to surpass your genetic limit

 

[Zagro]

keep coping bitch. accept the reality that hgh is useless if u want to surpass your genetic limit

Alright wait you fucking retard.

i never said hgh doesnt work it does work of course. for example a human has a genetic height limit of 180, if he has a hgh defecit he will get prescribed hgh and if he starts at a very young age he will will get for example +10cm. if this human has normal hgh levels and he is for example 175 he will grow to 180 and not more. doesnr matter if he takes hgh. and now guess what happens if u start hgh at 15. nothing maybe half a centimeter but for most people nothing happens. there are people who stop growing at 15 then get a growth spurt at 17. some grow till 15 and then never again like me. „b but hgh grows bones doesnr matter what your genetics is“ yes it technically does bit the amount of bonemass you get from running hgh is non visible. if u want to get bonemass we are speaking about a few mm in the face. a few mm are impossible. look at rira: extreme good bones no roids extremely shit diet alcoholic and drug abuser while others who care about diet and sleep look like faggot. this shows that genetics are almost everything maybe your bones will grow in your foot will grow a few nanometers after a cycle hgh but in the face rarely. and hgh is not anabolic, igf is though but hgh is not igf. the only factor that is important for your height is genetic and the diet of your parents before you were born. keep coping with hgh. your t-rna only transports amino acids to the ribosomes that it can find on the dna on the nucleotides paires

Nigga started bringing up Richard Ramirez and shit "look at rira: extreme good bones no roids extremely shit diet alcoholic and drug abuser while others who care about diet and sleep look like faggot. this shows that genetics are almost everything" What is this proving? I never said genetics aren't important you fucking idiot.

Also you don't cycle hGH you moron its just a perma-blast for years.

"hgh is not anabolic" Yeah i did not deny this but i do have to remind you, you said hGH is very good for muscle yourself in the previous posts, you just read that posts of other people in this thread which i have already talked about and are bringing it up again , hGH puts you into an anabolic state indirectly rather than being anabolic itself. "and hgh is not anabolic, igf is though but hgh is not igf" what are you even saying at this point, "hgh is not igf" no shit , did you know injecting hGH exogenously also increases your serum GH levels and IGF-1 levels?

"now guess what happens if u start hgh at 15. nothing maybe half a centimeter but for most people nothing happens" Well i don't have to guess as i already have ran it and seen gains in height rightaway, although of course i can't prove its because of the hGH because proving that is almost impossible.

"if u want to get bonemass we are speaking about a few mm in the face" i never talked about hGH by itself being good for craniofacial changes, you keep going off the topic blud.

"i never said hgh doesnt work it does work of course" by saying this you do agree that it works for teenagers and agree with my claims you know that right? Cause i have also never said it doesn't work for GHD patients the debate here is whether it works for mid/post-puberty teenagers with open epiphyseal plates.

Let me state my point again as you're dyslexic: hGH works if epiphyseal plates are open and you will see very good changes if you use it for upwards of 6 months at 8-12 units daily and ran right.

 

[mogging2eternity]

Alright wait you fucking retard.


Nigga started bringing up Richard Ramirez and shit "look at rira: extreme good bones no roids extremely shit diet alcoholic and drug abuser while others who care about diet and sleep look like faggot. this shows that genetics are almost everything" What is this proving? I never said genetics aren't important you fucking idiot.

Also you don't cycle hGH you moron its just a perma-blast for years.

"hgh is not anabolic" Yeah i did not deny this but i do have to remind you, you said hGH is very good for muscle yourself in the previous posts, you just read that posts of other people in this thread which i have already talked about and are bringing it up again , hGH puts you into an anabolic state indirectly rather than being anabolic itself. "and hgh is not anabolic, igf is though but hgh is not igf" what are you even saying at this point, "hgh is not igf" no shit , did you know injecting hGH exogenously also increases your serum GH levels and IGF-1 levels?

"now guess what happens if u start hgh at 15. nothing maybe half a centimeter but for most people nothing happens" Well i don't have to guess as i already have ran it and seen gains in height rightaway, although of course i can't prove its because of the hGH because proving that is almost impossible.

"if u want to get bonemass we are speaking about a few mm in the face" i never talked about hGH by itself being good for craniofacial changes, you keep going off the topic blud.

"i never said hgh doesnt work it does work of course" by saying this you do agree that it works for teenagers and agree with my claims you know that right? Cause i have also never said it doesn't work for GHD patients the debate here is whether it works for mid/post-puberty teenagers with open epiphyseal plates.

Let me state my point again as you're dyslexic: hGH works if epiphyseal plates are open and you will see very good changes if you use it for upwards of 6 months at 8-12 units daily and ran right.

long term 12 iu is retarded nigga, why are you referring to the post before, i said you cannot surpass your genetic limit in my latest post not more, and if u think you can outplay your height genetic idgaf keep coping, your posts are hopefuel for manlets, final height is genetic and you have no arguement that speaks against it just some other bs that nobody cares about. don´t respond to this read it and think whatever you want idc what your opinion is

 

[Zagro]

long term 12 iu is retarded nigga, why are you referring to the post before, i said you cannot surpass your genetic limit in my latest post not more, and if u think you can outplay your height genetic idgaf keep coping, your posts are hopefuel for manlets, final height is genetic and you have no arguement that speaks against it just some other bs that nobody cares about. don´t respond to this read it and think whatever you want idc what your opinion is

Pure cagefuel man you made my day ahahhaha, do you even believe the words coming out of your mouth yourself?

"i said you cannot surpass your genetic limit in my latest post not more" You spoke about many topics on the previous post not only this, also on another one you started talking abour Richard Ramirez just to remind you

"you have no arguement that speaks against it just some other bs that nobody cares about" I literally provided studies proving my claims in every debate I've been in and i literally told you several ways/arguments that prove my claims are you really retarded?

"don´t respond to this read" Now you move onto copying me aswell just pure cagefuel, i literally told you to stop speaking and responding as you seem more and more retarded with each post you make and this proved it

@Luca_. @CertifiedGoy do you understand why debating with other retards on .org is so draining now, I'm sorry i even was mad at y'all cause this guys just a whole different creature. Just skim through the more recent posts and read it, this nigga starts talking about RiRa and topics which aren't even relevant and that i haven't brought up.

 

[caleb555]

So ivea read some studies about the whole Hgh thing and ive come to realise that a teenage body already produces 3-6 ius of growth hormone. During a strong puberty growth spurt up to 9-12 temporarily. And the hgh you inject takes over the whole systems so the hgh you take arent going to be additioned to your naturual production. So wouldnt that make hgh useless?

Will it still be useless if you use an ai?

 

[CertifiedGoy]

Pure cagefuel man you made my day ahahhaha, do you even believe the words coming out of your mouth yourself?

"i said you cannot surpass your genetic limit in my latest post not more" You spoke about many topics on the previous post not only this, also on another one you started talking abour Richard Ramirez just to remind you

"you have no arguement that speaks against it just some other bs that nobody cares about" I literally provided studies proving my claims in every debate I've been in and i literally told you several ways/arguments that prove my claims are you really retarded?

"don´t respond to this read" Now you move onto copying me aswell just pure cagefuel, i literally told you to stop speaking and responding as you seem more and more retarded with each post you make and this proved it

@Luca_. @CertifiedGoy do you understand why debating with other retards on .org is so draining now, I'm sorry i even was mad at y'all cause this guys just a whole different creature. Just skim through the more recent posts and read it, this nigga starts talking about RiRa and topics which aren't even relevant and that i haven't brought up.

What’s the main thing yous are arguing about? Surpassing genetic limit?

 

[Luca_.]

Let me state my point again as you're dyslexic: hGH works if epiphyseal plates are open and you will see very good changes if you use it for upwards of 6 months at 8-12 units daily and ran right.

man why couldn’t you say that from the start as well. We both would’ve agreed on that and wouldn’t have argued

 

[Luca_.]

Pure cagefuel man you made my day ahahhaha, do you even believe the words coming out of your mouth yourself?

"i said you cannot surpass your genetic limit in my latest post not more" You spoke about many topics on the previous post not only this, also on another one you started talking abour Richard Ramirez just to remind you

"you have no arguement that speaks against it just some other bs that nobody cares about" I literally provided studies proving my claims in every debate I've been in and i literally told you several ways/arguments that prove my claims are you really retarded?

"don´t respond to this read" Now you move onto copying me aswell just pure cagefuel, i literally told you to stop speaking and responding as you seem more and more retarded with each post you make and this proved it

@Luca_. @CertifiedGoy do you understand why debating with other retards on .org is so draining now, I'm sorry i even was mad at y'all cause this guys just a whole different creature. Just skim through the more recent posts and read it, this nigga starts talking about RiRa and topics which aren't even relevant and that i haven't brought up.

Yeah I also have to argue with retards on here saying that mewing will give you lefort3 results. I honestly hate the lookmaxing section and that’s why I try to avoid it

 

[Zagro]

Yeah I also have to argue with retards on here saying that mewing will give you lefort3 results. I honestly hate the lookmaxing section and that’s why I try to avoid it

Yeah i understand you man i would get triggered by the daily "what should i take for bigger zygos" ahh questions that are asked there as well.

 

[Luca_.]

Yeah i understand you man i would get triggered by the daily "what should i take for bigger zygos" ahh questions that are asked there as well.

,,Will mk677 give me bonemass”? I legit saw a nigga ask if whey protein is going to give him bonemass. Today I saw one asking if boxing will give him bonemass. It’s genuinely ridiculous

 

[nxvxrmxr]

how to

Alright wait you fucking retard.


Nigga started bringing up Richard Ramirez and shit "look at rira: extreme good bones no roids extremely shit diet alcoholic and drug abuser while others who care about diet and sleep look like faggot. this shows that genetics are almost everything" What is this proving? I never said genetics aren't important you fucking idiot.

Also you don't cycle hGH you moron its just a perma-blast for years.

"hgh is not anabolic" Yeah i did not deny this but i do have to remind you, you said hGH is very good for muscle yourself in the previous posts, you just read that posts of other people in this thread which i have already talked about and are bringing it up again , hGH puts you into an anabolic state indirectly rather than being anabolic itself. "and hgh is not anabolic, igf is though but hgh is not igf" what are you even saying at this point, "hgh is not igf" no shit , did you know injecting hGH exogenously also increases your serum GH levels and IGF-1 levels?

"now guess what happens if u start hgh at 15. nothing maybe half a centimeter but for most people nothing happens" Well i don't have to guess as i already have ran it and seen gains in height rightaway, although of course i can't prove its because of the hGH because proving that is almost impossible.

"if u want to get bonemass we are speaking about a few mm in the face" i never talked about hGH by itself being good for craniofacial changes, you keep going off the topic blud.

"i never said hgh doesnt work it does work of course" by saying this you do agree that it works for teenagers and agree with my claims you know that right? Cause i have also never said it doesn't work for GHD patients the debate here is whether it works for mid/post-puberty teenagers with open epiphyseal plates.

Let me state my point again as you're dyslexic: hGH works if epiphyseal plates are open and you will see very good changes if you use it for upwards of 6 months at 8-12 units daily and ran right.

how to run it properly? for minimizing side effects