HGH Will Annihilate Your Face Unless You’re Fully Cooked

[WhyNotMe_]

Yea because they are old and blast tren not because of hgh xd

 

[iblamethebrain]

Oh really? fuck man shouldve known this earlier

Again, take GH if you want. Im sure low doses can help if you are deficient. But its not something for someone generally good to go with his baseline levels.

 

[NoaA99]

If you had poor bone development to begin with, HGH will almost certainly be a looksmin. If your bones weren’t responsive to growth in the first place, and you don’t have a genuine hormonal deficiency - you’ll just end up looking like a bloated potato, with an enlarged heart and other internal organs catching the damage. Plus, you risk insulin resistance and permanent facial puffiness.
Also, at least for adults, you’d need dosages beyond 8–10 IU daily long term to have a chance of noticeable changes, and for that kind of money, you might as well just go for surgery.

 

[2marc1]

Let’s set the record straight once and for all that HGH is NOT a Looksmaxxing hack.
It’s a Hail Mary for the recessed, growth-stunted, subhuman tier, and if you're anything above a sub5, you have zero business touching it.
You think you’re gonna GH your way to Chadhood?
No. You’re gonna GH your way to bulbous-nosed, midface-puffed ogredom.
If you want that good luck tho


1. HGH Doesn’t Boost, It Kills
If you’re HTN or even MTN with decent bone structure, GH doesn’t “enhance” you. It erodes your existing harmony. You don’t gain aesthetics. You gain mass. Not mass where you want it, but face-destroying, symmetry-killing soft tissue mass.

2. Cartilage Growth = Nose Death
You will get nasal growth. HGH doesn’t discriminate—it feeds everything. That septum? That tip? That base? It all expands and probably droops.
Your sharp, masculine nose? Now it looks like a moist croissant melting between your eyes.
People dream of rhinoplasties (which i do too). Et voila you just bought yourself the opposite for the same price.

3. Who Can Take It? Only the absolute cooked.
Let me be crystal clear:
If you are severely recessed, GH-deficient, or a sub-five with no structural base then MAYBE it’s worth considering.
You already lost the genetics lottery. You’re playing from the bottom. GH might fill you out to the point where you look less underdeveloped. That’s the only W it offers.

But if you’re HTN or above, chasing “extra gains”?
You’re gambling your entire face for nothing. Acromegalic features are the best if you want to never touch a vagina in your life ever again.. Just because it worked for Androgenic or NocturnalKent doesnt mean it will work for you. Holiest cope ever

sincerely yours,
iblamethebrain

soft tissue growth as nose and ears is more uncommon, and acronegaly is mostly produced when adults have insane amounts of hgh, cuz they're plates are closed and only thing that grows is jaw and soft tissue, best time to take hgh is puberty,prepuberty nothing else
if your post puberty low dose gh is the only thing you should do

 

[xnj]

Estradiol has nothing to do with bone growth. Its responsible for closing the epiphyseal plates, which we want to keep open for long for any orthodontic devices to work well. Im a maxillofacial surgical assistant, ive dedicated my life towards the maxilla and bro you are so wrong.

e2 is one of the primary hormones responsible for anterior maxillary development jfl

either way, what youre saying about me growing up is cope

 

[iblamethebrain]

e2 is one of the primary hormones responsible for anterior maxillary development jfl

either way, what youre saying about me growing up is cope

JFL e2 is responsible for female sexual characteristics.

Your hip bone will be bigger. You’ll have female osteoclast activity.

 

[xnj]

JFL e2 is responsible for female sexual characteristics.

Your hip bone will be bigger. You’ll have female osteoclast activity.

yeah and guess what a projected maxilla is…..

 

[tinderhacker]

Funny how every single point also applies to MSE.

If only I can go back in time and never touch that piece of shit with a 10 foot pole.

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

Funny how every single point also applies to MSE.

If only I can go back in time and never touch that piece of shit with a 10 foot pole.

why? did it descend you? Im thinking of getting one from the bracesshop

 

[socdom]

hgh is my bud dont speak on him like that

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

yeah and it ascended me

I've been wanting to ask you this ever since I read your post, but do you think plier pulling a few mins a day is better than thumbpulling? The only thing is I can't do plier pulling for forward growth jfl

 

[xnj]

I've been wanting to ask you this ever since I read your post, but do you think plier pulling a few mins a day is better than thumbpulling? The only thing is I can't do plier pulling for forward growth jfl

plier pulling is for lateral advancement
thumb pulling is for anterior

both work

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

plier pulling is for lateral advancement
thumb pulling is for anterior

both work

alright got you

 

[Zagro]

yeah and guess what a projected maxilla is…..

So ai will basically make sure you never get a projected maxilla?

 

[iblamethebrain]

yeah and guess what a projected maxilla is…..

NOT an inherent female sex characteristic. Ofc if your E is fucked you will become recessed etc. but a extremely spike like you suggested won’t cause your face to go Jordan Barrett.

 

[iblamethebrain]

So ai will basically make sure you never get a projected maxilla?

Don’t listen to that guy. He is partially right but his suggestions are very surface level misunderstandings/misinterpretation of scientific literature. Look at my CCW Thread i mildly talk about it there and discuss the real reasons for natural forward growth.

 

[iblamethebrain]

alright got you

Both are bullshit. Enjoy your scrumptious thumbs in your mouth and crooked fucked up teeth.

 

[xnj]

NOT an inherent female sex characteristic. Ofc if your E is fucked you will become recessed etc. but a extremely spike like you suggested won’t cause your face to go Jordan Barrett.

prolonged and pre-20s it would

also yes it is an inherent female feature

 

[iblamethebrain]

prolonged and pre-20s it would

also yes it is an inherent female feature

No. Deep set orbitals (which occur when forward growth is sufficient) helped aid in spatial awareness and tracking in mammals. There is an evolutionary advantage for hunters.

Female Homo sapiens had less of that to better aid with gathering.

It’s all based on evolution and survival of the fittest.

 

[xnj]

No. Deep set orbitals (which occur when forward growth is sufficient) helped aid in spatial awareness and tracking in mammals. There is an evolutionary advantage for hunters.

Female Homo sapiens had less of that to better aid with gathering.

It’s all based on evolution and survival of the fittest.

lool what
deep set eyes arent for that, theyre for protection of the eyes
if anything, your fov is decreased with deeper set eyes

also orbital boxes are lf2 region, which i never said all females had well-developed
but the lf1 region projection - is absolutely a feminine feature

 

[iblamethebrain]

lool what
deep set eyes arent for that, theyre for protection of the eyes
if anything, your fov is decreased with deeper set eyes

also orbital boxes are lf2 region, which i never said all females had well-developed
but the lf1 region projection - is absolutely a feminine feature

You’re mistaking proximate function for ultimate function. Yes, deep-set eyes offer mechanical protection—but evolutionary traits rarely serve a single purpose. The ultimate function, the reason this trait was selected for and persisted, is tied to behavior, environmental interaction, and survival advantage.

Spatial awareness, depth perception, and tracking—especially in dynamic, three-dimensional environments—are enhanced when the orbits are oriented forward. That’s not speculation, that’s textbook anthropology. Predators across species exhibit this pattern: forward-facing eyes, deeper-set orbits, and enhanced binocular vision for tracking prey. It’s no coincidence that apex predators—wolves, eagles, big cats—share this trait.

In Homo sapiens, the same logic applies. Males, selected over millennia for traits beneficial in pursuit and navigation, developed features consistent with predatory visual demands. More forward growth, deeper set orbits, and more robust supraorbital ridges. This is a convergence of craniofacial development and neurovisual optimization.

Now let’s talk about females. There is sexual dimorphism in the face for a reason. Female evolution leaned more toward fine motor skills, peripheral scanning, and color discrimination—traits useful for foraging, sorting, and social cue reading. These don’t require the same degree of forward eye projection or orbital depth. Instead, they favor a flatter midface, more lateral orbital exposure, and less pronounced bone structure around the eyes.

To claim, in flat contradiction to both functional anatomy and evolutionary patterning, that deep-set eyes reduce field of view and therefore lack any spatial advantage is to grossly misunderstand how depth perception, binocular convergence, and stereopsis work. Peripheral vision is a function of lateral eye orientation—not orbital projection.

And regarding your throwaway about LF1 vs LF2: craniofacial growth is not modular Lego blocks. Forward growth in LF1 supports LF2 orbital depth by providing structure. To call orbital boxes exclusively “LF2” and use that as an attempted disqualifier reveals a shallow grasp of facial development and its integrated nature.

So yes deep set orbits do aid in spatial awareness, do reflect evolutionary adaptation for hunting, and are sexually dimorphic because survival strategies differ between the sexes. Your attempt to reduce the complexity of human anatomy to a surface-level “lol what” isn’t just unconvincing—it’s laughably reductive.

 

[xnj]

behavior, environmental interaction, and survival advantage

all of those link back to protection only

dynamic, three-dimensional environments

yeah thats literally life

orbits are oriented forward

theres a difference between orbital box and eye orientation; the former has nothing to do with the latter besides the aforementioned fov making it unreasonable to look too far to the side, that is literally it

Predators across species exhibit this pattern

yeah because they all inherently require extra protection

more robust supraorbital ridges

thats dht

peripheral scanning

would be more useful in males if anything, but you could argue that that extra bit of protections outweighs the benefits of that extra bit of peripherals

color discrimination

same applies to this, except this is not affected by the boxes at all

depth perception, binocular convergence, and stereopsis work

its really not hard to understand whatsoever tbh

Forward growth in LF1 supports LF2

i am aware, but only to an extent; there is also a reason for the fracture patterns to exist to begin with, and also the reason why some people exhibit different extents of lf2 anterior development, compared to lf1

To call orbital boxes exclusively “LF2” and use that as an attempted disqualifier reveals a shallow grasp of facial development and its integrated nature.

well to call the maxilla the only component of the orbital box (especially considering the fact that its literally the smallest part of it) is not very grasping either

sexually dimorphic

i never said deep set eyes arent sexually dimorphic in relation to males, but its mainly the zygos and supras (in respect to the aforementioned lf2 region) contributing to them

Your attempt to reduce the complexity of human anatomy to a surface-level “lol what” isn’t just unconvincing—it’s laughably reductive.

lol what

i also never said that e2 was the only hormone involved, as gh also plays a crucial role. but this also supports my statement, as fact that gh affects vertical craniofacial development, which is partially what makes the maxilla flatter on men, as we inherently have higher gh levels, is the reason why foids have more compact skulls. pair that with higher e2, and we have a recipe for defined maxillary projection

thats why males have deeper-set eyes with flatter anterior maxilla relative to the rest of the face, as our shit grows forwards (resulting in box deepening) and upwards (resulting in maxilla “flattening”) simultaneously

da sauce:

Cha, K. S. (2013). “Sexual Dimorphism in Korean Craniofacial Morphology.” Korean Journal of Orthodontics, 43(5), 222–229.

Hinton, R. J. (2014). “Mechanisms of Estrogen Action in Craniofacial Bone Growth.” Journal of Craniofacial Genetics and Developmental Biology, 34(3), 215–223

Krishnan, V., & Davidovitch, Z. (2009). “Cellular, Molecular, and Tissue-Level Reactions to Orthodontic Force.” American Journal of Orthodontics and Dentofacial Orthopedics, 135(2), 136.e1–136.e16

Pirinen, S. (1995). “Endocrine Regulation of Craniofacial Growth.” Acta Odontologica Scandinavica, 53(3), 179–18

Verdonck, A., et al. (1999). “Effect of Testosterone on Craniofacial Growth in Boys.” European Journal of Orthodontics, 21(2), 137–143.

Yamashiro, T., & Takano-Yamamoto, T. (2001). “Influences of Ovarian Hormones on Periodontal and Alveolar Bone Remodeling.” Journal of Periodontal Research, 36(3), 183–192

 

[iblamethebrain]

all of those link back to protection only

yeah thats literally life


theres a difference between orbital box and eye orientation; the former has nothing to do with the latter besides the aforementioned fov making it unreasonable to look too far to the side, that is literally it



yeah because they all inherently require extra protection


thats dht


would be more useful in males if anything, but you could argue that that extra bit of protections outweighs the benefits of that extra bit of peripherals


same applies to this, except this is not affected by the boxes at all


its really not hard to understand whatsoever tbh


i am aware, but only to an extent; there is also a reason for the fracture patterns to exist to begin with, and also the reason why some people exhibit different extents of lf2 anterior development, compared to lf1

well to call the maxilla the only component of the orbital box (especially considering the fact that its literally the smallest part of it) is not very grasping either


i never said deep set eyes arent sexually dimorphic in relation to males, but its mainly the zygos, nasal bone and supras contributing to them



lol what

i also never said that e2 was the only hormone involved, as gh also plays a role. but this also supports the fact that gh affects vertical craniofacial development, which is partially what makes the maxilla flatter on men, as we inherently have higher gh levels, so foids will have more compact skulls + higher e2, which is a recipe for defined maxillary projection

thats why males have deeper-set eyes with flatter anterior maxilla relative to the rest of the face, as our shit grows forwards (resulting in box deepening) and upwards (resulting in maxilla “flattening”) simultaneously

da sauce:

Hinton, R. J. (2014). “Mechanisms of Estrogen Action in Craniofacial Bone Growth.” Journal of Craniofacial Genetics and Developmental Biology, 34(3), 215–223

Krishnan, V., & Davidovitch, Z. (2009). “Cellular, Molecular, and Tissue-Level Reactions to Orthodontic Force.” American Journal of Orthodontics and Dentofacial Orthopedics, 135(2), 136.e1–136.e16

Yamashiro, T., & Takano-Yamamoto, T. (2001). “Influences of Ovarian Hormones on Periodontal and Alveolar Bone Remodeling.” Journal of Periodontal Research, 36(3), 183–192

and ill throw another two talking about gh (vertical) compared to e2 (sagittal) cause why not

Pirinen, S. (1995). “Endocrine Regulation of Craniofacial Growth.” Acta Odontologica Scandinavica, 53(3), 179–18

Singh et al. (2018): 10.7860/JCDR/2018/38492.12034, check out OE04 and OE05 in particular

Bhatia & Bhatia (2020): 10.4103/jfds.jfds_19_20: check out page 55, section 2.3 and page 56, section 3.1

Mirin effort, will look into it.

 

[Fusionxz]

what the fuck is this guy talking about, hgh is used for height not face

 

[xk1111]

what the fuck is this guy talking about, hgh is used for height not face

It affects the face

 

[tinderhacker]

why? did it descend you? Im thinking of getting one from the bracesshop

Please don’t even think about getting mse.

Mse makes you more ethnic.

It makes your nose thicker and wider.
It makes your top lip look like a stretched prolapsed anus
It shifts the cant of your teeth and causes huge aesthetic teeth problems some which even braces can’t properly fix.
It makes your paranasal region fuller AKA forget about ever having mogger hollow cheeks that taper down from the cheekbones.

It also causes the inner canthus of the eye to become shorter although this affect is very subtle but enough to shorten your PFL

MSE is the biggest subhuman gaslight POS device in looksmaxxing history. I got it in 2020 and 5 years later I’m just getting around to finally overcoming its brutal looksminning effects.

 

[iblamethebrain]

Funny how every single point also applies to MSE.

If only I can go back in time and never touch that piece of shit with a 10 foot pole.

Staying natural is the only way to keep risks low…

 

[slaters]

Ibutamoren is a secretagogue. It isnt exogenous like HGH so less potent and potentially safer. But insulin resistance is real. Would advice against it.

GLP1s are god sent for insulin resistance

 

[domitiynotme]

1. HGH Doesn’t Boost, It Kills
If you’re HTN or even MTN with decent bone structure, GH doesn’t “enhance” you. It erodes your existing harmony. You don’t gain aesthetics. You gain mass. Not mass where you want it, but face-destroying, symmetry-killing soft tissue mass.

2. Cartilage Growth = Nose Death
You will get nasal growth. HGH doesn’t discriminate—it feeds everything. That septum? That tip? That base? It all expands and probably droops.
Your sharp, masculine nose? Now it looks like a moist croissant melting between your eyes.
People dream of rhinoplasties (which i do too). Et voila you just bought yourself the opposite for the same price.

i want to hop on HGH in 3 months with doctor's supervision and he said that it is probable that nose will grow a lil bit but no that bad. IS IT THAT BAD?

 

[iblamethebrain]

i want to hop on HGH in 3 months with doctor's supervision and he said that it is probable that nose will grow a lil bit but no that bad. IS IT THAT BAD?

On low doses no. With doctors supervision go for it. Just beware of the risks.

 

[iblamethebrain]

GLP1s are god sent for insulin resistance

Somewhat.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

HGH won’t do shit for face gains lol if you started during puberty

You need to have been blasting an unholy amount of HGH when you were an INFANT to actually become an ogre

 

[iblamethebrain]

HGH won’t do shit for face gains lol if you started during puberty

You need to have been blasting an unholy amount of HGH when you were an INFANT to actually become an ogre

No.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

No.

Yes

Doesn’t do much for height either if you started late