HGH with AI

[DrPepperMaxxing]

I’ve gotten mixed studies and been told many things about using HGH with an AI

Is it pure cope?

 

[GokuSSJ3]

I’ve gotten mixed studies and been told many things about using HGH with an AI

Is it pure cope?

if you inhibit estrogen during puberty you will grow up to be a retard, all for a 6 month earlier growth spurt that puts you to the same height you would have been anyway

 

[DrPepperMaxxing]

if you inhibit estrogen during puberty you will grow up to be a retard, all for a 6 month earlier growth spurt that puts you to the same height you would have been anyway

Yea I heard that and it is my main concern. But I also read a study:

“Combination therapy with AI/GH increases height potential in pubertal boys with ISS more than GH and AI alone treated for 24–36 months with a strong safety profile.”

 

[GokuSSJ3]

Yea I heard that and it is my main concern. But I also read a study:

“Combination therapy with AI/GH increases height potential in pubertal boys with ISS more than GH and AI alone treated for 24–36 months with a strong safety profile.”

maybe 0.5 inch bonus if you cycle perfectly, diet will do the same its still not worth it

 

[DrPepperMaxxing]

maybe 0.5 inch bonus if you cycle perfectly, diet will do the same its still not worth it

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I have been on a fairly decent diet (to the best of my abilities considering I’m a minor living with my parents)​

Here are the results that were listed on the study

TL;DR at bottom​

Results:​

Height gain [mean (SE)] at 24 months was: AI, +14.0 (0.8) cm; GH, +17.1 (0.9) cm; AI/GH, +18.9 (0.8) cm (P < .0006, analysis of covariance). Height SDS was: AI, −1.73 (0.12); GH, −1.43 (0.14); AI/GH, −1.25 (0.12) (P < .0012). Those treated through 36 months grew more. Regardless of treatment duration, height SDS at near-final height [n = 71; age, 17.4 (0.2) years; bone age, 15.3 (0.1) years; height achieved, ∼97.6%] was: AI, −1.4 (0.1); GH, −1.4 (0.2); AI/GH, −1.0 (0.1) (P = .06). Absolute height change was: AI, +18.2 (1.6) cm; GH, +20.6 (1.5) cm; AI/GH, +22.5 (1.4) cm (P = .01) (expected height gain at −2.0 height SDS, +13.0 cm). AI/GH had higher fat free mass accrual. Measures of bone health, safety labs, and adverse events were similar in all groups. Letrozole caused higher T and lower estradiol than anastrozole.


Sorry for taking a while I shortened it up for you to save you some time if you didn’t want to read allat



Near-Final Height Age ~17.4 yrs

All groups reached about 97.6% of their expected adult height:

AI: SDS −1.4
GH: SDS −1.4
AI + GH: SDS −1.0

Total Height Gained Overall

AI: +18 cm
GH: +21 cm
AI + GH: +23 cm

 

[nedum4y0u]

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I have been on a fairly decent diet (to the best of my abilities considering I’m a minor living with my parents)​

Here are the results that were listed on the study

TL;DR at bottom​

Results:​

Height gain [mean (SE)] at 24 months was: AI, +14.0 (0.8) cm; GH, +17.1 (0.9) cm; AI/GH, +18.9 (0.8) cm (P < .0006, analysis of covariance). Height SDS was: AI, −1.73 (0.12); GH, −1.43 (0.14); AI/GH, −1.25 (0.12) (P < .0012). Those treated through 36 months grew more. Regardless of treatment duration, height SDS at near-final height [n = 71; age, 17.4 (0.2) years; bone age, 15.3 (0.1) years; height achieved, ∼97.6%] was: AI, −1.4 (0.1); GH, −1.4 (0.2); AI/GH, −1.0 (0.1) (P = .06). Absolute height change was: AI, +18.2 (1.6) cm; GH, +20.6 (1.5) cm; AI/GH, +22.5 (1.4) cm (P = .01) (expected height gain at −2.0 height SDS, +13.0 cm). AI/GH had higher fat free mass accrual. Measures of bone health, safety labs, and adverse events were similar in all groups. Letrozole caused higher T and lower estradiol than anastrozole.


Sorry for taking a while I shortened it up for you to save you some time if you didn’t want to read allat



Near-Final Height Age ~17.4 yrs

All groups reached about 97.6% of their expected adult height:

AI: SDS −1.4
GH: SDS −1.4
AI + GH: SDS −1.0

Total Height Gained Overall

AI: +18 cm
GH: +21 cm
AI + GH: +23 cm

Wdym total height gained overall?