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after what age is pinning hgh pointless or can you pin at any age
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City boiiiiiiiiiiiiiafter what age is pinning hgh pointless or can you pin at any age
But what about for facial bone growth obviously after growth plates fuse you wont be able to gain height but could you still gain bone mass?its never pointless for gymcelling
even if u blast 30IU your bones wont change a milimeter. same goes for height and whatever the fuck "bone mass" is to youBut what about for facial bone growth obviously after growth plates fuse you wont be able to gain height but could you still gain bone mass?
Thiseven if u blast 30IU your bones wont change a milimeter. same goes for height and whatever the fuck "bone mass" is to you
So what is the point of ever pinning hgheven if u blast 30IU your bones wont change a milimeter. same goes for height and whatever the fuck "bone mass" is to you
more GH. its beneficial for a variety of reasons however height and "bone growth" arent those reasonsSo what is the point of ever pinning hgh
Is muscle growth and reduction of fat the only nes or are there moremore GH. its beneficial for a variety of reasons however height and "bone growth" arent those reasons
So what does it do, let’s say someone at 14 takes like 8 iu what will it do exactly including height?even if u blast 30IU your bones wont change a milimeter. same goes for height and whatever the fuck "bone mass" is to you
nigga are you dumb? when blasting 30 IUs per day, your IGF-1 levels would be in an insane range, which is one of the main pathways for height growth and forming of new bones, obviously there are better options for craniofacial development, but to say HGH is completly useless is wrongeven if u blast 30IU your bones wont change a milimeter. same goes for height and whatever the fuck "bone mass" is to you
Are you intellectually challengedeven if u blast 30IU your bones wont change a milimeter. same goes for height and whatever the fuck "bone mass" is to you
for height it matters for health and physique itbdoesntafter what age is pinning hgh pointless or can you pin at any age
You misinterpreted what I said. I meant to imply that no amount of GH will impact height growth.Are you intellectually challenged
You don't even need anything close to 30 units for height growth
I didn’t misinterpret it hGH does work for height growth you can benefit off 1-2 inches just from itYou misinterpreted what I said. I meant to imply that no amount of GH will impact height growth.
I've seen your HGH guide but based on all of the studies I've seen, all of them treat children (prepubescent, worth stating too) who have a GH deficiency or are ISS. Most users here are none of those things which is why HGH in my opinion doesn't work for height. The studies that did studies on normal children, found no change in growth patterns. You can correct me if I'm wrong but my opinion is just based off of what I've read.
ISS is far from a healthy short adolescent. There are very few true ISS patients because the 2x standard deviation offsets the needed height be considered ISS very far.I didn’t misinterpret it hGH does work for height growth you can benefit off 1-2 inches just from it
My hGH guide is absolute trash and you’re completely wrong about your opinion
ISS is the closest thing to any healthy adolescent which is short
There are studies done on 15 year olds with ISS where height gain is still seen but poor, but chronological age doesn’t matter baseline bone age is the important factor here
Studies on normal children or in other words like most ISS patients do show height growth and there were changes in growth patterns
You are reading the studies with your ass i suppose
Bro my head hurts so bad I'll debate with you in a minute but you have zero understanding of any topic be it biology, endocrinology or bone histology to begin with if you don't believe hGH can increase final heightISS is far from a healthy short adolescent. There are very few true ISS patients because the 2x standard deviation offsets the needed height be considered ISS very far.
Example I found: an average 16 year old is around 173cm and the -2 SD is just under 160cm. Not once have I seen anyone on this forum be built like that. Mostly everyone here is within normal ranges, if they weren't i'd be inclined to suggest HGH.
I agree that bone age is an important factor but to even consider bone age, you must have a condition to even treat with HGH.
I'd love to see the studies you've mentioned in your reply if you could link them. I'll make sure to read with my eyes and not my ass, just for you.
You're heavily relying on the argument that ISS is relatively close to "just a short teen" which is simply false based on simple math and SDs.
dont spike cortisol over fucking IQLETSBro my head hurts so bad I'll debate with you in a minute but you have zero understanding of any topic be it biology, endocrinology or bone histology to begin with if you don't believe hGH can increase final height
There's literally an article which shows that 30% of "ISS" patients are just short fucking kids with zero complications + ISS patients reach FAH or near FAH
"I agree that bone age is an important factor but to even consider bone age, you must have a condition to even treat with HGH." ??? do you even understand the reason why a lower bone age gives better results?
You won't read the studies you will feed them to AI but I will send them its just that my head is fucking exploding right now it hurts so bad therefore the aggressive replies
Height isn't math faggot you cant esstimate or predict anything with some calculations because its entirely unpredictable
well if our universe is deterministic you can calculate your height in theory, we are just too dumbBro my head hurts so bad I'll debate with you in a minute but you have zero understanding of any topic be it biology, endocrinology or bone histology to begin with if you don't believe hGH can increase final height
There's literally an article which shows that 30% of "ISS" patients are just short fucking kids with zero complications + ISS patients reach FAH or near FAH
"I agree that bone age is an important factor but to even consider bone age, you must have a condition to even treat with HGH." ??? do you even understand the reason why a lower bone age gives better results?
You won't read the studies you will feed them to AI but I will send them its just that my head is fucking exploding right now it hurts so bad therefore the aggressive replies
Height isn't math faggot you cant esstimate or predict anything with some calculations because its entirely unpredictable
It's true, I don't believe it can increase final height if you mean the figure that is predisposed to you at birth with genetics. Again, what I do agree with is that it will help, if you have a condition that requires HGH treatment and therefore nudge you towards the upper limit of potential (near FAH). I just don't believe it can override genetic FAH if that's what you're arguing with. And yeah, I don't have extensive knowledge on these subjects. What I've learned was just public info from studies and anecdotal posts. I understand the topics surface level but not much more.Bro my head hurts so bad I'll debate with you in a minute but you have zero understanding of any topic be it biology, endocrinology or bone histology to begin with if you don't believe hGH can increase final height
I'd love to see that. However even you said it, 30%, that's not a whole lot. Still leaves 70% that truly do have ISS.There's literally an article which shows that 30% of "ISS" patients are just short fucking kids with zero complications
Yeah, without HGH intervention even. If you add HGH into the equation you may reach it faster IF and only IF you have a condition that's slowing down growth.ISS patients reach FAH or near FAH
I do, but you're not getting what i'm saying. If you get diagnosed with ISS, then should you start worrying about bone age. When you don't have ISS or similar conditions then bone age shouldn't be a concern because HGH isn't gonna work anyway. That's the point of my argument.??? do you even understand the reason why a lower bone age gives better results?
I read all of the studies myself, it's not like they're novels lmao.You won't read the studies you will feed them to AI but I will send them its just that my head is fucking exploding right now it hurts so bad therefore the aggressive replies
Height isn't math faggot you cant esstimate or predict anything with some calculations because its entirely unpredictable
Just read till here and wont bother talking to you anymoreIt's true, I don't believe it can increase final height if you mean the figure that is predisposed to you at birth with genetics
Fairs, you make good points anyway. I've just read and heard too much about it being genetic and not able to be overridden with HGH.Just read till here and wont bother talking to you anymore
Height isn't entirely genetic to begin with
dont spike cortisol over fucking IQLETS
just ignore the fag and let him stay lowiq.
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nothing wrong with these posts fag.
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typa niggas to include themselves for no reason in a conversation that includes them in no way. let's not.
if you have anything helpful to add to the thread, go for it, but if you're just gonna be shitposting, dont bother.
If you don't see an issue venting about your crush on a forum and leaving a horrendous digital footprint with the other posts, then you're braindead either way.nothing wrong with these posts fag.
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im from a third world countryIf you don't see an issue venting about your crush on a forum and leaving a horrendous digital footprint with the other posts, then you're braindead either way.
Same goes for posting pics. Nothing to do with balls, just brain damage
lol retard, ignore list. cbaim from a third world country
i dont suppose half the population even had access to phones
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