HGH

[pnwtc]

Yo guys I’m very new to this. I’ve been deciding and I decided I want to start my journey off with HGH. I’m wondering if you guys have any tips and recommendations, I’m 16 with open growth plates, I’m planning to do HGH only first. Also I did a little bit of research, I have found few sources from forums like meso, but I’m not sure how exactly I should continue because many of the sources I can find either has alot of people already buying them with shipping delays according to the reviews, or just too little people buying it to know if its good. I also find it hard to trust some random chinese vendors. I would appreciate it if anyone can point me into the right direction. Thank you.

 

[ER1887]

Yo guys I’m very new to this. I’ve been deciding and I decided I want to start my journey off with HGH. I’m wondering if you guys have any tips and recommendations, I’m 16 with open growth plates, I’m planning to do HGH only first. Also I did a little bit of research, I have found few sources from forums like meso, but I’m not sure how exactly I should continue because many of the sources I can find either has alot of people already buying them with shipping delays according to the reviews, or just too little people buying it to know if its good. I also find it hard to trust some random chinese vendors. I would appreciate it if anyone can point me into the right direction. Thank you.

Yo someone help my buddy

 

[ER1887]

Yo guys I’m very new to this. I’ve been deciding and I decided I want to start my journey off with HGH. I’m wondering if you guys have any tips and recommendations, I’m 16 with open growth plates, I’m planning to do HGH only first. Also I did a little bit of research, I have found few sources from forums like meso, but I’m not sure how exactly I should continue because many of the sources I can find either has alot of people already buying them with shipping delays according to the reviews, or just too little people buying it to know if its good. I also find it hard to trust some random chinese vendors. I would appreciate it if anyone can point me into the right direction. Thank you.

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[Faustum]

Yo guys I’m very new to this. I’ve been deciding and I decided I want to start my journey off with HGH. I’m wondering if you guys have any tips and recommendations, I’m 16 with open growth plates, I’m planning to do HGH only first. Also I did a little bit of research, I have found few sources from forums like meso, but I’m not sure how exactly I should continue because many of the sources I can find either has alot of people already buying them with shipping delays according to the reviews, or just too little people buying it to know if its good. I also find it hard to trust some random chinese vendors. I would appreciate it if anyone can point me into the right direction. Thank you.

You understand you have to run 8-10 IU's daily + an AI for meainingful growth right?

If you don't got the money, don't even attempt this.

 

[psl.83736632]

You understand you have to run 8-10 IU's daily + an AI for meainingful growth right?

If you don't got the money, don't even attempt this.

do u need to take ai??

 

[teenroider310]

20 mg tamoxifen don't listen to retards suggesting AIs like letro etc that cross the BBB you'll end up being retarded do 20 mg tamoxifen 8-10 ius GH everyday for 6 months have proper ancillaries

 

[Faustum]

do u need to take ai??

You understand why it's recommended right?

ESTROGEN is what closes your growth plates, its the hormone that causes the closure.

So by using an AI, we DELAY the closure, allowing HGH as much time as possible for growth.

 

[psl.83736632]

You understand why it's recommended right?

ESTROGEN is what closes your growth plates, its the hormone that causes the closure.

So by using an AI, we DELAY the closure, allowing HGH as much time as possible for growth.

yes i understand that but i also understand the risks and i dont think its worth it and i was wondering if u can still get good height gains without ai

 

[Faustum]

yes i understand that but i also understand the risks and i dont think its worth it and i was wondering if u can still get good height gains without ai

Yes you could, put all major studies on HGH have an AI paired with it because it allows HGH the most time.

And you have to take HGH for 12-24 months. At high dosages, like 8-10 IU's or base it on body weight.

 

[pnwtc]

Yes you could, put all major studies on HGH have an AI paired with it because it allows HGH the most time.

And you have to take HGH for 12-24 months. At high dosages, like 8-10 IU's or base it on body weight.

My mom agreed to buy pharmaceutical HGH for me as long as theres a doctor monitoring. I doubt some random fuck ass doctor is gonna let me do anything more than 3ius lol. But I’m booked for a consultation this week to find out the details and dosage. Do you think its worth spending alot of my parents money, I’m currently 5,6 my mom is 5,3 and my dad is 5,5. My bone age is the same as my age , which is 16.5 and I have open plates, but already had my growth spurt. My doctor said I have a few years of growth left and I’m predicted to be up to 5’8 without HGH. 5’7 is the average height in my country so if HGH will likely get me to 5’9-5’10, then I will do it. What do you think, should I do it anyway regardless or if I’m not able to do AI too should I not do HGH at all.

 

[Faustum]

My mom agreed to buy pharmaceutical HGH for me as long as theres a doctor monitoring. I doubt some random fuck ass doctor is gonna let me do anything more than 3ius lol. But I’m booked for a consultation this week to find out the details and dosage. Do you think its worth spending alot of my parents money, I’m currently 5,6 my mom is 5,3 and my dad is 5,5. My bone age is the same as my age , which is 16.5 and I have open plates, but already had my growth spurt. My doctor said I have a few years of growth left and I’m predicted to be up to 5’8 without HGH. 5’7 is the average height in my country so if HGH will likely get me to 5’9-5’10, then I will do it. What do you think, should I do it anyway regardless or if I’m not able to do AI too should I not do HGH at all.

You need to brainstorm with AI on a way for you to get higher IU's

Think of low GH/IGF-1 symptoms and larp it hard

 

[pnwtc]

You need to brainstorm with AI on a way for you to get higher IU's

Think of low GH/IGF-1 symptoms and larp it hard

I got a second opinion this doctor said i’m tanner stage five and this one said I should have about a year of growth left. I asked about AI he said it isn’t worth because it wont increase my height potential at all or increase like 1 cm. What do you think? Is it worth a shot anyway or should I put that money into LL savings?

 

[Faustum]

I got a second opinion this doctor said i’m tanner stage five and this one said I should have about a year of growth left. He said HGH isn’t worth because it wont increase my height potential at all or increase like 1 cm. What do you think? Is it worth a shot anyway or should I put that money into LL savings?

He's probably saying that because the growth space isn't that large, and you are near the end of puberty.

Reality is, gigantism comes from the Pituitary Gland SPAMMING GH at insane levels, and no clinical studies go over 8-10 IU's.


So he's saying what he knows, and in your case, if you want expansion of the growth plates, there is one thing that has evidence that it can do it. FGFR3 inhibitors.
Taking an oral pan-FGFR1-3 inhibitor was tested on kids with achondroplasia and the kids had ~1.7–2.5 cm/year extra annualized height velocity vs. placebo, plus better body proportions.

TYRA-300 is better, it's a more selective inhibitor.

Erdafitinib has case reports of unexpected growth spurts and growth plate widening in kids treated for tumors.

Accelerated Linear Growth during Erdafitinib Treatment: An FGFR-Related, but Growth Factor and Sex Steroid-Independent Mechanism? - PMC

Growth acceleration during postnatal growth only occurs during puberty as a physiological event and during catch-up growth mediated by growth-promoting therapies in growth disorders. Here we report on novel observations of skeletal symptoms during ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is your best chance. They work best while growth plates are still open for someone in YOUR exact position.

Problem is sourcing, and price. A single pill of 5mg is $50 USD for Infrigratinib. 500mg pill is 690. You can probably find better sources but it's not a peptide.

 

[infrainfra]

20 mg tamoxifen don't listen to retards suggesting AIs like letro etc that cross the BBB you'll end up being retarded do 20 mg tamoxifen 8-10 ius GH everyday for 6 months have proper ancillaries

tamoxifen binds ERa at certain concentrations idiot

 

[pnwtc]

He's probably saying that because the growth space isn't that large, and you are near the end of puberty.

Reality is, gigantism comes from the Pituitary Gland SPAMMING GH at insane levels, and no clinical studies go over 8-10 IU's.


So he's saying what he knows, and in your case, if you want expansion of the growth plates, there is one thing that has evidence that it can do it. FGFR3 inhibitors.
Taking an oral pan-FGFR1-3 inhibitor was tested on kids with achondroplasia and the kids had ~1.7–2.5 cm/year extra annualized height velocity vs. placebo, plus better body proportions.

TYRA-300 is better, it's a more selective inhibitor.

Erdafitinib has case reports of unexpected growth spurts and growth plate widening in kids treated for tumors.

Accelerated Linear Growth during Erdafitinib Treatment: An FGFR-Related, but Growth Factor and Sex Steroid-Independent Mechanism? - PMC

Growth acceleration during postnatal growth only occurs during puberty as a physiological event and during catch-up growth mediated by growth-promoting therapies in growth disorders. Here we report on novel observations of skeletal symptoms during ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is your best chance. They work best while growth plates are still open for someone in YOUR exact position.

Problem is sourcing, and price. A single pill of 5mg is $50 USD for Infrigratinib. 500mg pill is 690. You can probably find better sources but it's not a peptide.

Ty for the help bro, I don't think I can afford tho. I might stick with LL.

 

[Faustum]

Ty for the help bro, I don't think I can afford tho. I might stick with LL.

Son, if you can't afford the pills you won't be able to afford LL.

Make the investment now, where it doesnt take 1 year of brutal recovery.

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

You understand you have to run 8-10 IU's daily + an AI for meainingful growth right?

If you don't got the money, don't even attempt this.

i agree and disagree with you at the same time.

directly through osteoblasts, of course, gh needs to be high

But you are forgetting you can leverage it for sleep which most 16-17yrs here should do anyway to SUPPORT growth which maximizes your potential. so 4-5 ius can work but only if your sleep isnt perfect before hopping on

 

[Faustum]

i agree and disagree with you at the same time.

directly through osteoblasts, of course, gh needs to be high

But you are forgetting you can leverage it for sleep which most 16-17yrs here should do anyway to SUPPORT growth which maximizes your potential. so 4-5 ius can work but only if your sleep isnt perfect before hopping on

Okay but let's follow both the clinical data and basic logic.

Gigantism is literally GH spam from the PG, 8-10 IU's is the clinical dosage range for ISS, and an AI on top of that expands that.

If you want even more growth, FGFR3 inhibitors on top would put you at the highest height potential a man could put himself at.