High Glycemic Load Leads to Bone Growth Throughout Development

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I've noticed that there aren't enough discussions on the topic of high glycemic load here, even it's not some revolutionary new theory.

Heavily processed grains, sugars and goyslop spike insulin which in turn causes an increase in IGF-1, causing bone growth in development. This is contrary to what people usually say, which is that fast food and sugars will stunt your growth. Although a diet consisting of a high glycemic load is unhealthy, the goal is to have an increase in height, not an anti-aging effect which is what most people aim for with diets like keto, which are fine for grown adults, but will cuck your development along with a vegan, carnivore and conventional food pyramid diet -> here.

I've seen this study circulating around some threads and you can go through it if you want to read all that shit, it basically goes further in depth about the actions of the western diet on insulin etc.

Here is an image(recycled ass picture lmao:ogre:) from the study which shows the mechanism of a high glycemic load on igf-1:
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Some foods you'd generally want to eat to cause this load are:
  • ice cream
  • milk
  • sugary cereal
  • whey protein
  • fast food (yes, mcdonalds theory is real lmao) in moderation
  • fructose, sucrose and glucose in their raw forms
As usual, don't be a retard and go completely overboard, although the aim is to have as much of a glycemic load as possible. Ensure you're not sedentary and eat other food too: consume meat and animal protein, 2-3g/kg bodyweight..... all water tbh. I've also compiled a list of meals I generated that spike your insulin. There isn't much to be said about these meals and the list above serves as more of a guideline:feelshah:

Breakfast: White Bread with Jam and Orange Juice

  • Ingredients:
  • 4 slices of white bread (approximately 320 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons of strawberry jam (approximately 100 calories)
  • 1 glass of orange juice (approximately 150 calories)

Breakfast: Pancakes with Syrup and Fruit Juice

  • Ingredients:
  • 3 pancakes with syrup (approximately 600 calories)
  • 1 glass of fruit juice (approximately 150 calories)

Breakfast (~700-800 calories)

  • White Bread with Jam and Fruit Juice:
  • 4 slices of white bread - 320 calories
  • 2 tablespoons of strawberry jam - 100 calories
  • 1 medium banana - 100 calories
  • 1 glass of orange juice - 150 calories

Main meal: White Rice with Sweet and Sour Chicken

  • 2 cups of cooked white rice - 400 calories
  • Sweet and sour chicken (takeout style) - 400 calories
Mcdonald's order (what I'd order - EAT SPARINGLY, as usual, don't be a retard):
  • large big mac meal with fries and milkshake
  • 9 mcnuggets
  • mcCrispy
  • mcflurry
  • (basically eat what the fuck you want if you're hungry, not sure if I'd recommend that as you can get fat)

Snack: Cereal with Milk

  • 2 cups of sugary cereal - 300 calories
  • 1 cup of whole milk - 150 calories

Snack: Rice Cakes with Honey and Banana

  • Ingredients:
  • 4 rice cakes with honey (approximately 400 calories)
  • 1 medium banana (approximately 100 calories)

Dessert: Vanilla Ice Cream with Cookies

  • Ingredients:
  • 2 scoops of vanilla ice cream (approximately 300 calories)
  • 2 chocolate chip cookies (approximately 200 calories)

Dessert: Donuts and Chocolate Milkshake

  • Ingredients:
  • 2 glazed donuts (approximately 400 calories)
  • 1 chocolate milkshake (approximately 500 calories)


You may call this cope but my point isn't that eating like this and causing high insulin through puberty will guarantee you to grow to surpass your genetic potential, but it is the most optimal diet for causing bone growth.
 
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yes, high glycemic foods spike igf1, its best to eat them on an empty stomach so other foods dont intervene in digestion.
 
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I've noticed that there aren't enough discussions on the topic of high glycemic load here, even it's not some revolutionary new theory.

Heavily processed grains, sugars and goyslop spike insulin which in turn causes an increase in IGF-1, causing bone growth in development. This is contrary to what people usually say, which is that fast food and sugars will stunt your growth. Although a diet consisting of a high glycemic load is unhealthy, the goal is to have an increase in height, not an anti-aging effect which is what most people aim for with diets like keto, which are fine for grown adults, but will cuck your development along with a vegan, carnivore and conventional food pyramid diet -> here.

I've seen this study circulating around some threads and you can go through it if you want to read all that shit, it basically goes further in depth about the actions of the western diet on insulin etc.

Here is an image(recycled ass picture lmao:ogre:) from the study which shows the mechanism of a high glycemic load on igf-1:
View attachment 3028367


Some foods you'd generally want to eat to cause this load are:
  • ice cream
  • milk
  • sugary cereal
  • whey protein
  • fast food (yes, mcdonalds theory is real lmao) in moderation
  • fructose, sucrose and glucose in their raw forms
As usual, don't be a retard and go completely overboard, although the aim is to have as much of a glycemic load as possible. Ensure you're not sedentary and eat other food too: consume meat and animal protein, 2-3g/kg bodyweight..... all water tbh. I've also compiled a list of meals I generated that spike your insulin. There isn't much to be said about these meals and the list above serves as more of a guideline:feelshah:

Breakfast: White Bread with Jam and Orange Juice

  • Ingredients:
  • 4 slices of white bread (approximately 320 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons of strawberry jam (approximately 100 calories)
  • 1 glass of orange juice (approximately 150 calories)

Breakfast: Pancakes with Syrup and Fruit Juice

  • Ingredients:
  • 3 pancakes with syrup (approximately 600 calories)
  • 1 glass of fruit juice (approximately 150 calories)

Breakfast (~700-800 calories)

  • White Bread with Jam and Fruit Juice:
  • 4 slices of white bread - 320 calories
  • 2 tablespoons of strawberry jam - 100 calories
  • 1 medium banana - 100 calories
  • 1 glass of orange juice - 150 calories

Main meal: White Rice with Sweet and Sour Chicken

  • 2 cups of cooked white rice - 400 calories
  • Sweet and sour chicken (takeout style) - 400 calories
Mcdonald's order (what I'd order - EAT SPARINGLY, as usual, don't be a retard):
  • large big mac meal with fries and milkshake
  • 9 mcnuggets
  • mcCrispy
  • mcflurry
  • (basically eat what the fuck you want if you're hungry, not sure if I'd recommend that as you can get fat)

Snack: Cereal with Milk

  • 2 cups of sugary cereal - 300 calories
  • 1 cup of whole milk - 150 calories

Snack: Rice Cakes with Honey and Banana

  • Ingredients:
  • 4 rice cakes with honey (approximately 400 calories)
  • 1 medium banana (approximately 100 calories)

Dessert: Vanilla Ice Cream with Cookies

  • Ingredients:
  • 2 scoops of vanilla ice cream (approximately 300 calories)
  • 2 chocolate chip cookies (approximately 200 calories)

Dessert: Donuts and Chocolate Milkshake

  • Ingredients:
  • 2 glazed donuts (approximately 400 calories)
  • 1 chocolate milkshake (approximately 500 calories)


You may call this cope but my point isn't that eating like this and causing high insulin through puberty will guarantee you to grow to surpass your genetic potential, but it is the most optimal diet for causing bone growth.
just take steroids
 
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drink soda bros
 
Old Lookism McDonalds theory
aka Goyslop theory
 
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yes because drinking some milk will turn u into a girl
if you plan on drinking large amounts of milk i would employ a estrogen blocking supplement like DIM, Olive Leaf Extract, Boron
yes because drinking some milk will turn u into a girl
Although milk is indisputably the 'perfect food' for mammals, it cannot be argued that the cow is a different species and milk is purposefully resistant to digestion—two considerations prerequisite for autoantibody formation.

Folate receptor autoantibodies will make you forget all about the casomorphins, literally. The choroid plexus is where all brain folate is absorbed, and the obligatory receptors are ~88% similar to proteins found in bovine milk. This occurs because membrane folate receptors are often cleaved-off, making for a slightly-shorter yet otherwise identical version in the plasma. These are also found in milk in high concentrations, and represent the autoantigen for folate receptor autoantibodies.

These autoantibodies bind the brain folate receptor, making the primary transporter reduced in function. Brain folate is necessary for dNA synthesis, myelination, and some neurotransmitters (i.e. norepinephrine; melatonin).The antidote for these autoantibodies is simply tetrahydrofolate, 5-methylated or otherwise, and the far more common folic acid will not do. This oxidized form normally goes through the folate receptor now blocked by the autoantibody. The electronically-reduced folates are needed to counteract this by bypassing the folate receptor (FR1) though the reduced folate carrier (RFC1), also found on the choroid plexus.
 
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Great thread on how to get diabetes and short stature syndrome
 
are my bones still growing if i’ve had chronically high estrogen from gear 15-17 and only now taking aromasin? i feel like they have been as my bidelt and skull has seen gains still even lately, should i bother igfmaxxing at all?
 
are my bones still growing if i’ve had chronically high estrogen from gear 15-17 and only now taking aromasin? i feel like they have been as my bidelt and skull has seen gains still even lately, should i bother igfmaxxing at all?
you are fucked, def closed growth plates
 
Worst thread I’ve seen today
 
are my bones still growing if i’ve had chronically high estrogen from gear 15-17 and only now taking aromasin? i feel like they have been as my bidelt and skull has seen gains still even lately, should i bother igfmaxxing at all?
you might as well, but get an xray of a growth plate
 
if you plan on drinking large amounts of milk i would employ a estrogen blocking supplement like DIM, Olive Leaf Extract, Boron

Although milk is indisputably the 'perfect food' for mammals, it cannot be argued that the cow is a different species and milk is purposefully resistant to digestion—two considerations prerequisite for autoantibody formation.

Folate receptor autoantibodies will make you forget all about the casomorphins, literally. The choroid plexus is where all brain folate is absorbed, and the obligatory receptors are ~88% similar to proteins found in bovine milk. This occurs because membrane folate receptors are often cleaved-off, making for a slightly-shorter yet otherwise identical version in the plasma. These are also found in milk in high concentrations, and represent the autoantigen for folate receptor autoantibodies.

These autoantibodies bind the brain folate receptor, making the primary transporter reduced in function. Brain folate is necessary for dNA synthesis, myelination, and some neurotransmitters (i.e. norepinephrine; melatonin).The antidote for these autoantibodies is simply tetrahydrofolate, 5-methylated or otherwise, and the far more common folic acid will not do. This oxidized form normally goes through the folate receptor now blocked by the autoantibody. The electronically-reduced folates are needed to counteract this by bypassing the folate receptor (FR1) though the reduced folate carrier (RFC1), also found on the choroid plexus.
not enough to do anything
 
That much insulin on a daily basis is gonna cause insulin resistance and short stature part is jfl
As a healthy teenager it shouldn't be a problem as long as you're not a fat fuck already and exercise
 
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yes, high glycemic foods spike igf1, its best to eat them on an empty stomach so other foods dont intervene in digestion.
would it be optimal to use this as a base/ building block for bone growth through steroids or do they already fulfill the purpose
 
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Good thread summarising this information, it's been known for a while as you mention but appreciate linking the diagram from the study
 
not enough to do anything
if you plan on drinking large amounts of milk i would employ a estrogen blocking supplement like DIM, Olive Leaf Extract, Boron

Although milk is indisputably the 'perfect food' for mammals, it cannot be argued that the cow is a different species and milk is purposefully resistant to digestion—two considerations prerequisite for autoantibody formation.

Folate receptor autoantibodies will make you forget all about the casomorphins, literally. The choroid plexus is where all brain folate is absorbed, and the obligatory receptors are ~88% similar to proteins found in bovine milk. This occurs because membrane folate receptors are often cleaved-off, making for a slightly-shorter yet otherwise identical version in the plasma. These are also found in milk in high concentrations, and represent the autoantigen for folate receptor autoantibodies.

These autoantibodies bind the brain folate receptor, making the primary transporter reduced in function. Brain folate is necessary for dNA synthesis, myelination, and some neurotransmitters (i.e. norepinephrine; melatonin).The antidote for these autoantibodies is simply tetrahydrofolate, 5-methylated or otherwise, and the far more common folic acid will not do. This oxidized form normally goes through the folate receptor now blocked by the autoantibody. The electronically-reduced folates are needed to counteract this by bypassing the folate receptor (FR1) though the reduced folate carrier (RFC1), also found on the choroid plexus.
Im curious if dim or boron actually works quite good fir non roidcels cause AI fucks up bile production
 
would it be optimal to use this as a base/ building block for bone growth through steroids or do they already fulfill the purpose
bro theyre both different things lmao
 
The question is at what age would this have a significant impact - specifically what bone age. If someone started this insulogenic lifestyle at a bone age of 17 it wouldn't help as they're almost done growing. If it was 13 it would obviously work. I'm not sure if I could say the same for 15 though. The best thing to do would be to eat shit like this and take ai + hgh
 
Old Lookism McDonalds theory
aka Goyslop theory
ik I posted this but how legit do you think this is overall. Also I tried finding the guide on lookism archives but you can't search on there
 
GOMAD with good thyroid thoery
 
?? There is already a thread made on it
 
This is why hood BBCs grow to 6’2. They eat McDonald’s dollar menu everyday. A Big Mac with a McFlurry.
 
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It definitely seems like the guys who start out overweight and who lose weight seem to have the most mogger skulls, so maybe you're right. But wouldn't the application of this theory cause diabetes long-term?
 
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Just eat ice cream bro theory
 
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jfl literally estrogen drink
M15 spams raw milk and cigarettes for break fast. Currently 183cm barefoot probably will take steroids later
 
?? There is already a thread made on it
Needs more traction, also it's a theory so I need knowledgeable people to confirm
 
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if you plan on drinking large amounts of milk i would employ a estrogen blocking supplement like DIM, Olive Leaf Extract, Boron

Although milk is indisputably the 'perfect food' for mammals, it cannot be argued that the cow is a different species and milk is purposefully resistant to digestion—two considerations prerequisite for autoantibody formation.

Folate receptor autoantibodies will make you forget all about the casomorphins, literally. The choroid plexus is where all brain folate is absorbed, and the obligatory receptors are ~88% similar to proteins found in bovine milk. This occurs because membrane folate receptors are often cleaved-off, making for a slightly-shorter yet otherwise identical version in the plasma. These are also found in milk in high concentrations, and represent the autoantigen for folate receptor autoantibodies.

These autoantibodies bind the brain folate receptor, making the primary transporter reduced in function. Brain folate is necessary for dNA synthesis, myelination, and some neurotransmitters (i.e. norepinephrine; melatonin).The antidote for these autoantibodies is simply tetrahydrofolate, 5-methylated or otherwise, and the far more common folic acid will not do. This oxidized form normally goes through the folate receptor now blocked by the autoantibody. The electronically-reduced folates are needed to counteract this by bypassing the folate receptor (FR1) though the reduced folate carrier (RFC1), also found on the choroid plexus.
how can we apply this information
 
how can we apply this information
I'd personally eat healthy throughout the day but still consume foods that spike my insulin, listed in spoilers. Then I'd have one goyslop meal like McDonalds (McDonalds theory is real). Don't eat this shit before bed, make sure it's a few hours before, and I'd sleep at 9pm. Be outside in the summer, sun is important and get mild exercise playing some nt sport, socialise for low cortisol. Mostly basic knowledge for the latter part. Other than that you can inject HGH and take ai and maybe t4
 
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Would this do anything for oldcels 17 and above tho?
 
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Would this do anything for oldcels 17 and above tho?
Tbh it depends on your bone age/growth plates, but I think if you hop on an ai the delayed growth plate closure will allow for it to work. You should use HGH and maybe t4 if your thyroid levels are low. Other than that this topic isn't researched well, I'd tag some high iq users, maybe @DR. NICKGA could answer your question better
 
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I'd personally eat healthy throughout the day but still consume foods that spike my insulin, listed in spoilers. Then I'd have one goyslop meal like McDonalds (McDonalds theory is real). Don't eat this shit before bed, make sure it's a few hours before, and I'd sleep at 9pm. Be outside in the summer, sun is important and get mild exercise playing some nt sport, socialise for low cortisol. Mostly basic knowledge for the latter part. Other than that you can inject HGH and take ai and maybe t4
what about more specifically to what you said about milk and estrogen? theres not really much definitive info, should we drink milk or not? and how much? to me the micros and macros of milk are too good to give up
 
what about more specifically to what you said about milk and estrogen? theres not really much definitive info, should we drink milk or not? and how much? to me the micros and macros of milk are too good to give up
I'm not sure I said something about milk being estrogenic. As long as you have take an aromatase inhibitor you'll be fine anyway, this is a response chatgpt generated:

'Drinking cow's milk can have an impact on hormone levels because cow's milk naturally contains hormones, including estrogens. However, the extent to which this affects human hormone levels can vary and is generally considered to be minimal for most people. Here are some key points to consider:

  1. Hormone Content in Milk: Cow's milk contains various hormones, including estrogen and progesterone. These hormones are present because they are naturally occurring in the milk of lactating cows.
  2. Amount of Hormones: The levels of estrogen in cow's milk are relatively low, especially in commercially available milk, which is often processed and might come from non-pregnant cows.
  3. Bioavailability: Not all of the hormones present in milk are bioavailable to humans in significant amounts. This means that even though milk contains these hormones, our bodies may not absorb and utilize all of them effectively.
  4. Population Studies: Research on the impact of cow's milk on human estrogen levels has shown mixed results. Some studies suggest there could be a slight increase in estrogen levels with high consumption, but the overall effect is generally considered small and not likely to have significant health impacts for most people.
  5. Individual Differences: The effect of cow's milk on estrogen levels can vary among individuals based on factors such as age, gender, and overall diet.
For most people, moderate consumption of cow's milk is unlikely to cause significant changes in estrogen levels. However, for individuals with specific health concerns related to hormones, it might be advisable to consult with a healthcare provider for personalized advice.'
 
I'm not sure I said something about milk being estrogenic. As long as you have take an aromatase inhibitor you'll be fine anyway, this is a response chatgpt generated:

'Drinking cow's milk can have an impact on hormone levels because cow's milk naturally contains hormones, including estrogens. However, the extent to which this affects human hormone levels can vary and is generally considered to be minimal for most people. Here are some key points to consider:

  1. Hormone Content in Milk: Cow's milk contains various hormones, including estrogen and progesterone. These hormones are present because they are naturally occurring in the milk of lactating cows.
  2. Amount of Hormones: The levels of estrogen in cow's milk are relatively low, especially in commercially available milk, which is often processed and might come from non-pregnant cows.
  3. Bioavailability: Not all of the hormones present in milk are bioavailable to humans in significant amounts. This means that even though milk contains these hormones, our bodies may not absorb and utilize all of them effectively.
  4. Population Studies: Research on the impact of cow's milk on human estrogen levels has shown mixed results. Some studies suggest there could be a slight increase in estrogen levels with high consumption, but the overall effect is generally considered small and not likely to have significant health impacts for most people.
  5. Individual Differences: The effect of cow's milk on estrogen levels can vary among individuals based on factors such as age, gender, and overall diet.
For most people, moderate consumption of cow's milk is unlikely to cause significant changes in estrogen levels. However, for individuals with specific health concerns related to hormones, it might be advisable to consult with a healthcare provider for personalized advice.'
yeah i realised it was the other guy that talked about estrogen in milk, i just read through a few papers and from what i can tell you would have to drink literally hundreds of litres of milk to have a meaningful impact on estrogen levels, also i dont think theres any point of taking an aromatase inhibitor for people past puberty and not on AAS anyway
 
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Administer igf1 theory
 
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Be tall but look like a tranny method..

Instead just eat a balanced diet, low inflammation, low estrogenic but keep carbs like potatoes in there.. just eat healthy and balanced…
 
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I've noticed that there aren't enough discussions on the topic of high glycemic load here, even it's not some revolutionary new theory.

Heavily processed grains, sugars and goyslop spike insulin which in turn causes an increase in IGF-1, causing bone growth in development. This is contrary to what people usually say, which is that fast food and sugars will stunt your growth. Although a diet consisting of a high glycemic load is unhealthy, the goal is to have an increase in height, not an anti-aging effect which is what most people aim for with diets like keto, which are fine for grown adults, but will cuck your development along with a vegan, carnivore and conventional food pyramid diet -> here.

I've seen this study circulating around some threads and you can go through it if you want to read all that shit, it basically goes further in depth about the actions of the western diet on insulin etc.

Here is an image(recycled ass picture lmao:ogre:) from the study which shows the mechanism of a high glycemic load on igf-1:
View attachment 3028367


Some foods you'd generally want to eat to cause this load are:
  • ice cream
  • milk
  • sugary cereal
  • whey protein
  • fast food (yes, mcdonalds theory is real lmao) in moderation
  • fructose, sucrose and glucose in their raw forms
As usual, don't be a retard and go completely overboard, although the aim is to have as much of a glycemic load as possible. Ensure you're not sedentary and eat other food too: consume meat and animal protein, 2-3g/kg bodyweight..... all water tbh. I've also compiled a list of meals I generated that spike your insulin. There isn't much to be said about these meals and the list above serves as more of a guideline:feelshah:

Breakfast: White Bread with Jam and Orange Juice

  • Ingredients:
  • 4 slices of white bread (approximately 320 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons of strawberry jam (approximately 100 calories)
  • 1 glass of orange juice (approximately 150 calories)

Breakfast: Pancakes with Syrup and Fruit Juice

  • Ingredients:
  • 3 pancakes with syrup (approximately 600 calories)
  • 1 glass of fruit juice (approximately 150 calories)

Breakfast (~700-800 calories)

  • White Bread with Jam and Fruit Juice:
  • 4 slices of white bread - 320 calories
  • 2 tablespoons of strawberry jam - 100 calories
  • 1 medium banana - 100 calories
  • 1 glass of orange juice - 150 calories

Main meal: White Rice with Sweet and Sour Chicken

  • 2 cups of cooked white rice - 400 calories
  • Sweet and sour chicken (takeout style) - 400 calories
Mcdonald's order (what I'd order - EAT SPARINGLY, as usual, don't be a retard):
  • large big mac meal with fries and milkshake
  • 9 mcnuggets
  • mcCrispy
  • mcflurry
  • (basically eat what the fuck you want if you're hungry, not sure if I'd recommend that as you can get fat)

Snack: Cereal with Milk

  • 2 cups of sugary cereal - 300 calories
  • 1 cup of whole milk - 150 calories

Snack: Rice Cakes with Honey and Banana

  • Ingredients:
  • 4 rice cakes with honey (approximately 400 calories)
  • 1 medium banana (approximately 100 calories)

Dessert: Vanilla Ice Cream with Cookies

  • Ingredients:
  • 2 scoops of vanilla ice cream (approximately 300 calories)
  • 2 chocolate chip cookies (approximately 200 calories)

Dessert: Donuts and Chocolate Milkshake

  • Ingredients:
  • 2 glazed donuts (approximately 400 calories)
  • 1 chocolate milkshake (approximately 500 calories)


You may call this cope but my point isn't that eating like this and causing high insulin through puberty will guarantee you to grow to surpass your genetic potential, but it is the most optimal diet for causing bone growth.
Holy shit so stupid it does oppiste destroys body fully like acidic poision
 
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