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I am just about to start this new cycle and coming on here to see if anyone has any advice I haven't thought of I am open to suggestions and should be on cycle within the next few weeks.

This is what I have planned:

HGH 5 IUS (night)
Exemestane 12.5 mg eod
Erdafitinib 3 mg
Glow stack 2 mg ghk-cu bpc-157 400 mcg tb-500 400 mcg daily
Anavar 5 mg—> 7.5 mg
Pitavastatin 1 mg
Metformin ER 500 mg
Accutane 10 mg eod
P5P 50 or 100 mg
Tourine 4g
D3 5,000 ius EOD
K2 200 mcg
Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg
Vitamin C 500 mg


My thoughts:
I don't think I need to up the dose of HGH I think for my bw at roughly 150 I have reached or almost reached saturation limit with 5 IUS.
I have considered adding cilostazol but seems like diminishing returns for maybe .5 inches of height over 12 months at best and adding complications to blood pressure.
There is actually a long list of things I considered but decided not to run because they either have more risks than benefits or too expensive/not able to source or would sacrifice one of my goals for the other like test speeding bone age to much just for face masculinization but here is a list of things I will NOT be running feel free to tell me if you think I'm wrong:
Testosterone
L-Thyroxine (T4) 100 mcg
L-Carnitine 1000mg (injectable only)
Cilostazol 100 mg (50 morning and 50 night)
Abaloparitide 20 mcg (pulsed 2 weeks on 2 weeks off)
Vosoritide
Infigratinib
Entresto
IGF DES
SARMS
SERMS


If anyone really knows what they are talking about let me know if you think I should change any doses or add/remove anything.
 
What makes u say igf des is bad?
 
I am just about to start this new cycle and coming on here to see if anyone has any advice I haven't thought of I am open to suggestions and should be on cycle within the next few weeks.

This is what I have planned:

HGH 5 IUS (night)
Exemestane 12.5 mg eod
Erdafitinib 3 mg
Glow stack 2 mg ghk-cu bpc-157 400 mcg tb-500 400 mcg daily
Anavar 5 mg—> 7.5 mg
Pitavastatin 1 mg
Metformin ER 500 mg
Accutane 10 mg eod
P5P 50 or 100 mg
Tourine 4g
D3 5,000 ius EOD
K2 200 mcg
Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg
Vitamin C 500 mg


My thoughts:
I don't think I need to up the dose of HGH I think for my bw at roughly 150 I have reached or almost reached saturation limit with 5 IUS.
I have considered adding cilostazol but seems like diminishing returns for maybe .5 inches of height over 12 months at best and adding complications to blood pressure.
There is actually a long list of things I considered but decided not to run because they either have more risks than benefits or too expensive/not able to source or would sacrifice one of my goals for the other like test speeding bone age to much just for face masculinization but here is a list of things I will NOT be running feel free to tell me if you think I'm wrong:
Testosterone
L-Thyroxine (T4) 100 mcg
L-Carnitine 1000mg (injectable only)
Cilostazol 100 mg (50 morning and 50 night)
Abaloparitide 20 mcg (pulsed 2 weeks on 2 weeks off)
Vosoritide
Infigratinib
Entresto
IGF DES
SARMS
SERMS


If anyone really knows what they are talking about let me know if you think I should change any doses or add/remove anything.
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I am just about to start this new cycle and coming on here to see if anyone has any advice I haven't thought of I am open to suggestions and should be on cycle within the next few weeks.

This is what I have planned:

HGH 5 IUS (night)
Exemestane 12.5 mg eod
Erdafitinib 3 mg
Glow stack 2 mg ghk-cu bpc-157 400 mcg tb-500 400 mcg daily
Anavar 5 mg—> 7.5 mg
Pitavastatin 1 mg
Metformin ER 500 mg
Accutane 10 mg eod
P5P 50 or 100 mg
Tourine 4g
D3 5,000 ius EOD
K2 200 mcg
Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg
Vitamin C 500 mg


My thoughts:
I don't think I need to up the dose of HGH I think for my bw at roughly 150 I have reached or almost reached saturation limit with 5 IUS.
I have considered adding cilostazol but seems like diminishing returns for maybe .5 inches of height over 12 months at best and adding complications to blood pressure.
There is actually a long list of things I considered but decided not to run because they either have more risks than benefits or too expensive/not able to source or would sacrifice one of my goals for the other like test speeding bone age to much just for face masculinization but here is a list of things I will NOT be running feel free to tell me if you think I'm wrong:
Testosterone
L-Thyroxine (T4) 100 mcg
L-Carnitine 1000mg (injectable only)
Cilostazol 100 mg (50 morning and 50 night)
Abaloparitide 20 mcg (pulsed 2 weeks on 2 weeks off)
Vosoritide
Infigratinib
Entresto
IGF DES
SARMS
SERMS


If anyone really knows what they are talking about let me know if you think I should change any doses or add/remove anything.
Pretty garbage tbh, what is the p5p for??
gh dose is extremely low ur practically losing height and if u want ill gladly provide multiple studies where kids were given 5-8 ius and growth was actually stunted, bump ur dose up to 10ius+. The more ius u can run the better and dont even start with the mwa mwa acromegaly from 8ius+!!!

What is the point of vitamin c with accutane???? this is retarded
 
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Pretty garbage tbh, what is the p5p for??
gh dose is extremely low ur practically losing height and if u want ill gladly provide multiple studies where kids were given 5-8 ius and growth was actually stunted, bump ur dose up to 10ius+. The more ius u can run the better and dont even start with the mwa mwa acromegaly from 8ius+!!!

What is the point of vitamin c with accutane???? this is retarded
No solid evidence that 5 IUS of hgh is gonna stunt growth its a superphsyiological dose, idc about slight agromegaly features but the argument that the more IUS the better is just stupid and redundant. You asked what the P5P was for and its obviously to lower prolactin, that's the only thing it fucking does and I have it because superphsyiological doses of hgh raise prolactin levels. Also vitamin C is to help with collagen what does it have to do with accutane at a 10 mg eod dose no significant bad interactions will happen. BTW I said to only respond if you know what you are talking about.
 
What makes u say igf des is bad?
Didn't say its bad, I said I'm not taking it, this is because with HGH it is reduntant, it works through the same pathway.
 
No solid evidence that 5 IUS of hgh is gonna stunt growth its a superphsyiological dose, idc about slight agromegaly features but the argument that the more IUS the better is just stupid and redundant. You asked what the P5P was for and its obviously to lower prolactin, that's the only thing it fucking does and I have it because superphsyiological doses of hgh raise prolactin levels. Also vitamin C is to help with collagen what does it have to do with accutane
STUDY 1
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4004899/

It was found in this study after administering 0.5iu/kg that the therapy of gh for a mean of 4.2 years caused the patients to be 8cm shorter. And it literally says at the end of the study: The above findings and considerations demonstrate that the effect of GH treatment is dose-dependent and suggest that doses over 0.23 mg/kg/week are necessary to achieve meaningful improvements in adult height in non-GHD short children. JFL:lul::lul::lul:

STUDY 2
1775437634595


In this study 0.5iu/kg a week of hgh for a mean of 5.7-6.2 years, resulted in patients being shorter or not taller. Once again they literally say in their own study:
1775437950605


We can finally see that these doses are too low in puberal boys (non ghd) to make a visible change in height, this is due to the fact that during peak puberty boys teens will produce 8-9ius+ per day at 70kg so if you take anything under 10 ius you are stunting your growth by shutting off your endogenous igf/gh axis for much less then your body would make and this is shown in this study
 
No solid evidence that 5 IUS of hgh is gonna stunt growth its a superphsyiological dose, idc about slight agromegaly features but the argument that the more IUS the better is just stupid and redundant. You asked what the P5P was for and its obviously to lower prolactin, that's the only thing it fucking does and I have it because superphsyiological doses of hgh raise prolactin levels. Also vitamin C is to help with collagen what does it have to do with accutane at a 10 mg eod dose no significant bad interactions will happen. BTW I said to only respond if you know what you are talking about.
YES DUDE THE PROLACTIN THAT U WILL GET FROM LESS GH THEN U PRODUCE NATURALLY :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:
 
Have you noticed any type of damage or malfunction of the liver or kidneys?
 
I am just about to start this new cycle and coming on here to see if anyone has any advice I haven't thought of I am open to suggestions and should be on cycle within the next few weeks.

This is what I have planned:

HGH 5 IUS (night)
Exemestane 12.5 mg eod
Erdafitinib 3 mg
Glow stack 2 mg ghk-cu bpc-157 400 mcg tb-500 400 mcg daily
Anavar 5 mg—> 7.5 mg
Pitavastatin 1 mg
Metformin ER 500 mg
Accutane 10 mg eod
P5P 50 or 100 mg
Tourine 4g
D3 5,000 ius EOD
K2 200 mcg
Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg
Vitamin C 500 mg


My thoughts:
I don't think I need to up the dose of HGH I think for my bw at roughly 150 I have reached or almost reached saturation limit with 5 IUS.
I have considered adding cilostazol but seems like diminishing returns for maybe .5 inches of height over 12 months at best and adding complications to blood pressure.
There is actually a long list of things I considered but decided not to run because they either have more risks than benefits or too expensive/not able to source or would sacrifice one of my goals for the other like test speeding bone age to much just for face masculinization but here is a list of things I will NOT be running feel free to tell me if you think I'm wrong:
Testosterone
L-Thyroxine (T4) 100 mcg
L-Carnitine 1000mg (injectable only)
Cilostazol 100 mg (50 morning and 50 night)
Abaloparitide 20 mcg (pulsed 2 weeks on 2 weeks off)
Vosoritide
Infigratinib
Entresto
IGF DES
SARMS
SERMS


If anyone really knows what they are talking about let me know if you think I should change any doses or add/remove anything.


Is this your first cycle?


If so:

 
YES DUDE THE PROLACTIN THAT U WILL GET FROM LESS GH THEN U PRODUCE NATURALLY :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:
Dude simple Google search, a 17 year old male produces roughly 1.5-2 IUS of HGH naturally and I am taking more than double that like is this ragebait or are you really this retarded?
 
STUDY 1
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4004899/

It was found in this study after administering 0.5iu/kg that the therapy of gh for a mean of 4.2 years caused the patients to be 8cm shorter. And it literally says at the end of the study: The above findings and considerations demonstrate that the effect of GH treatment is dose-dependent and suggest that doses over 0.23 mg/kg/week are necessary to achieve meaningful improvements in adult height in non-GHD short children. JFL:lul::lul::lul:

STUDY 2View attachment 4872750

In this study 0.5iu/kg a week of hgh for a mean of 5.7-6.2 years, resulted in patients being shorter or not taller. Once again they literally say in their own study: View attachment 4872769

We can finally see that these doses are too low in puberal boys (non ghd) to make a visible change in height, this is due to the fact that during peak puberty boys teens will produce 8-9ius+ per day at 70kg so if you take anything under 10 ius you are stunting your growth by shutting off your endogenous igf/gh axis for much less then your body would make and this is shown in this study
You are misinterpreting both of these studies. In the first one th kids who ended up 8 cm shorter where already short before the study had even started and its obvious gh did not make them shorter. The only way gh can make you shorter is if it somehow ages bone age faster than it boosts your growth and I am handling bone age in my stack with exemestane and others, so you have to consider how the stuck synergizes and not just an individual dose of GH compared to a study. Also no natraully human will ever produce even close to 9 IUS of GH unless they have acromegaly, a natural healthy male secretes approximatetly 0.06 mg/kg/day which translates to for a 70 kg male, roughly 4.2 mg or about 1.3 IUS and keep in mind that's for a male in the faze of life where he will produce the most GH he ever will, I have no idea how you could even believe someone makes 9 IUs naturally.
 
Dude simple Google search, a 17 year old male produces roughly 1.5-2 IUS of HGH naturally and I am taking more than double that like is this ragebait or are you really this retarded?
yea no point debating u since ur literally sped i showed u from the study and ur saying "search google" please rope u stupid fucking retard ur life is genuinely worthless and i hope u stunt ur height with ur shitty stack and stay a 4'11 manlet for life
 
You are misinterpreting both of these studies. In the first one th kids who ended up 8 cm shorter where already short before the study had even started and its obvious gh did not make them shorter. The only way gh can make you shorter is if it somehow ages bone age faster than it boosts your growth and I am handling bone age in my stack with exemestane and others, so you have to consider how the stuck synergizes and not just an individual dose of GH compared to a study. Also no natraully human will ever produce even close to 9 IUS of GH unless they have acromegaly, a natural healthy male secretes approximatetly 0.06 mg/kg/day which translates to for a 70 kg male, roughly 4.2 mg or about 1.3 IUS and keep in mind that's for a male in the faze of life where he will produce the most GH he ever will, I have no idea how you could even believe someone makes 9 IUs naturally
the study quite literally proves it and explain then how in studies with 10ius+ growth was increased and fah or pah wasnt decreased
 
oh
I am just about to start this new cycle and coming on here to see if anyone has any advice I haven't thought of I am open to suggestions and should be on cycle within the next few weeks.

This is what I have planned:

HGH 5 IUS (night)
Exemestane 12.5 mg eod
Erdafitinib 3 mg
Glow stack 2 mg ghk-cu bpc-157 400 mcg tb-500 400 mcg daily
Anavar 5 mg—> 7.5 mg
Pitavastatin 1 mg
Metformin ER 500 mg
Accutane 10 mg eod
P5P 50 or 100 mg
Tourine 4g
D3 5,000 ius EOD
K2 200 mcg
Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg
Vitamin C 500 mg


My thoughts:
I don't think I need to up the dose of HGH I think for my bw at roughly 150 I have reached or almost reached saturation limit with 5 IUS.
I have considered adding cilostazol but seems like diminishing returns for maybe .5 inches of height over 12 months at best and adding complications to blood pressure.
There is actually a long list of things I considered but decided not to run because they either have more risks than benefits or too expensive/not able to source or would sacrifice one of my goals for the other like test speeding bone age to much just for face masculinization but here is a list of things I will NOT be running feel free to tell me if you think I'm wrong:
Testosterone
L-Thyroxine (T4) 100 mcg
L-Carnitine 1000mg (injectable only)
Cilostazol 100 mg (50 morning and 50 night)
Abaloparitide 20 mcg (pulsed 2 weeks on 2 weeks off)
Vosoritide
Infigratinib
Entresto
IGF DES
SARMS
SERMS


If anyone really knows what they are talking about let me know if you think I should change any doses or add/remove anything.
oh and i forgot to mention erda depletes ur resting zone in ur growth plate and has literally stunted height in studies same as infi :lul::lul::lul:
 
yea no point debating u since ur literally sped i showed u from the study and ur saying "search google" please rope u stupid fucking retard ur life is genuinely worthless and i hope u stunt ur height with ur shitty stack and stay a 4'11 manlet for life
Ya right fuck you and I would have to shrink a foot and 2 inches to stay a 4'11 manlet for life if you can even do that math your an idiot
 
oh

oh and i forgot to mention erda depletes ur resting zone in ur growth plate and has literally stunted height in studies same as infi :lul::lul::lul:
It seems that theory has been debunked by the most recent clinical trials.
 
I am just about to start this new cycle and coming on here to see if anyone has any advice I haven't thought of I am open to suggestions and should be on cycle within the next few weeks.

This is what I have planned:

HGH 5 IUS (night)
Exemestane 12.5 mg eod
Erdafitinib 3 mg
Glow stack 2 mg ghk-cu bpc-157 400 mcg tb-500 400 mcg daily
Anavar 5 mg—> 7.5 mg
Pitavastatin 1 mg
Metformin ER 500 mg
Accutane 10 mg eod
P5P 50 or 100 mg
Tourine 4g
D3 5,000 ius EOD
K2 200 mcg
Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg
Vitamin C 500 mg


My thoughts:
I don't think I need to up the dose of HGH I think for my bw at roughly 150 I have reached or almost reached saturation limit with 5 IUS.
I have considered adding cilostazol but seems like diminishing returns for maybe .5 inches of height over 12 months at best and adding complications to blood pressure.
There is actually a long list of things I considered but decided not to run because they either have more risks than benefits or too expensive/not able to source or would sacrifice one of my goals for the other like test speeding bone age to much just for face masculinization but here is a list of things I will NOT be running feel free to tell me if you think I'm wrong:
Testosterone
L-Thyroxine (T4) 100 mcg
L-Carnitine 1000mg (injectable only)
Cilostazol 100 mg (50 morning and 50 night)
Abaloparitide 20 mcg (pulsed 2 weeks on 2 weeks off)
Vosoritide
Infigratinib
Entresto
IGF DES
SARMS
SERMS


If anyone really knows what they are talking about let me know if you think I should change any doses or add/remove anything.
Seems good, curious on what its for? height? dimorph? libido? muscle?

HGH-5 IU, this is good for baseline, but if your height-maxxing, go up to 10-12iu, if you cant afford, save

Exemestane, is this to block E2? if so, use arimidex since its easier to manage first time

Erdafitinib 3 mg... ok this is obviously for height maxxing.. (increase hgh to 10iu ed) (also for fgfr3 inhib, with erdafit, blocking all fgfr pathways 1-4 is gonna cause diarrhea, also erdafitinib causes hyperphosphatemia (high phosphate levels in the blood SUPER toxic compound)

Glow stack 2 mg ghk-cu bpc-157 400 mcg tb-500 400 mcg daily. This is kinda useless, if you want your skin to glow, focus on accutane

Anavar 5 mg—> 7.5 mg. ?? There are studies on anavar increasing height velocity but without test base seems weird

Pitavastatin. Is this for cholesterol? take omega 3's

Metformin Not sure what this is for honestly lmk

Accutane 10 mg eod. OK this is great, increase to 30 and do everyday, you can do day and night too. Theres no need to go eod and 10mg, thats very low. Id say if your skin is glowing 1000% clear, then yeah do it, but if NOT, then do 30mg ed

P5P 50 or 100 mg. No idea what this is for, lmk

Tourine 4g. Same here, no idea what its for.

D3 5,000 ius EOD, You can do ED, seems normal

K2 200 mcg Pairs good with d3, nice choice

Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg Great to take right before bed to boost REM and sleep quality.

Vitamin C 500 mg Antioxidant, doesnt need to be taken ed, good

Curious on your reply to some of my questions
 
Seems good, curious on what its for? height? dimorph? libido? muscle?

HGH-5 IU, this is good for baseline, but if your height-maxxing, go up to 10-12iu, if you cant afford, save

Exemestane, is this to block E2? if so, use arimidex since its easier to manage first time

Erdafitinib 3 mg... ok this is obviously for height maxxing.. (increase hgh to 10iu ed) (also for fgfr3 inhib, with erdafit, blocking all fgfr pathways 1-4 is gonna cause diarrhea, also erdafitinib causes hyperphosphatemia (high phosphate levels in the blood SUPER toxic compound)

Glow stack 2 mg ghk-cu bpc-157 400 mcg tb-500 400 mcg daily. This is kinda useless, if you want your skin to glow, focus on accutane

Anavar 5 mg—> 7.5 mg. ?? There are studies on anavar increasing height velocity but without test base seems weird

Pitavastatin. Is this for cholesterol? take omega 3's

Metformin Not sure what this is for honestly lmk

Accutane 10 mg eod. OK this is great, increase to 30 and do everyday, you can do day and night too. Theres no need to go eod and 10mg, thats very low. Id say if your skin is glowing 1000% clear, then yeah do it, but if NOT, then do 30mg ed

P5P 50 or 100 mg. No idea what this is for, lmk

Tourine 4g. Same here, no idea what its for.

D3 5,000 ius EOD, You can do ED, seems normal

K2 200 mcg Pairs good with d3, nice choice

Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg Great to take right before bed to boost REM and sleep quality.

Vitamin C 500 mg Antioxidant, doesnt need to be taken ed, good

Curious on your reply to some of my questions
Hey thanks for actually helping.
This stack is mostly for height but it will also help with dimo+muscle.
The metformin is for insulin sensitivity especially on HGH.
P5P is for prolactin which is raised by HGH, not a big deal but its cheap on Amazon so may aswell.
Yes I was looking into the anavar micro dosing but honestly your right without test base I am going to cut it.
Also I wanted to stay low on accutane for one my acne is pretty mild and also I've seen study's where it can stunt growth and I know this is pretty low risk and probably wouldn't happen but don't really want to risk it if my skin would be fine on this low dose + GLOW.
 
Seems good, curious on what its for? height? dimorph? libido? muscle?

HGH-5 IU, this is good for baseline, but if your height-maxxing, go up to 10-12iu, if you cant afford, save

Exemestane, is this to block E2? if so, use arimidex since its easier to manage first time

Erdafitinib 3 mg... ok this is obviously for height maxxing.. (increase hgh to 10iu ed) (also for fgfr3 inhib, with erdafit, blocking all fgfr pathways 1-4 is gonna cause diarrhea, also erdafitinib causes hyperphosphatemia (high phosphate levels in the blood SUPER toxic compound)

Glow stack 2 mg ghk-cu bpc-157 400 mcg tb-500 400 mcg daily. This is kinda useless, if you want your skin to glow, focus on accutane

Anavar 5 mg—> 7.5 mg. ?? There are studies on anavar increasing height velocity but without test base seems weird

Pitavastatin. Is this for cholesterol? take omega 3's

Metformin Not sure what this is for honestly lmk

Accutane 10 mg eod. OK this is great, increase to 30 and do everyday, you can do day and night too. Theres no need to go eod and 10mg, thats very low. Id say if your skin is glowing 1000% clear, then yeah do it, but if NOT, then do 30mg ed

P5P 50 or 100 mg. No idea what this is for, lmk

Tourine 4g. Same here, no idea what its for.

D3 5,000 ius EOD, You can do ED, seems normal

K2 200 mcg Pairs good with d3, nice choice

Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg Great to take right before bed to boost REM and sleep quality.

Vitamin C 500 mg Antioxidant, doesnt need to be taken ed, good

Curious on your reply to some of my questions
I've also done some revising and right now have this version of the cycle:

HGH 5 IUS (night)
Exemestane 12.5 mg eod
Erdafitinib 3 mg
Cilostazol 100 mg
Abaloparitide 60mcg (3 months on 1 month off) (40mcg for first week or 2)
Glow stack 2 mg ghk-cu bpc-157 400 mcg tb-500 400 mcg daily
Tadalafil 5 mg daily
Metformin ER 500 mg (Morning)
Accutane 10 mg eod
P5P 50 mg
Boron 10mg
Zinc 30 mg
D3 5000 ius
K2 (MK-4-1000 mcg, MK-7-180 mcg, K1-1500 mcg)
Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg
Calcium carbonate 500 mg with largest meal
Melatonin 3 mg
 

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