Over High protein diet might be bad for aging and longevity

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Brutal for all high protein gymcels.

Additionally, specific amino acids (AAs), including methionine or branched-chain AAs (BCAAs), are associated with the regulation of lifespan/ageing and metabolism through multiple mechanisms


"We studied simple organisms, mice, and humans and provide convincing evidence that a high-protein diet — particularly if the proteins are derived from animals — is nearly as bad as smoking for your health,"
 
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Interesting because Whey Protein is the best protein for guys out there.

I guess it could beneficial for guys to switch to plant protein (NOT SOY) every couple days.
 
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Yep, thats because protein signals growth to the body through i think it was called "mtor pathway".

Same thing with GHmaxxing. You grow, but you dont live as long.

Ideal is high protein intake when young, and low when adult after 25
Yeah I plan to go lower protein after 30 when your body isn’t that anabolic anyway and you got your most gains
 
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Yep, thats because protein signals growth to the body through i think it was called "mtor pathway".

Same thing with GHmaxxing. You grow, but you dont live as long.

Ideal is high protein intake when young, and low when adult after 25
You also think hgh for anti aging is a myth?
 
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Insane cope. You can't rely on studies for information anymore, not when you can literally find the exact opposite of this study funded by some other corporation that wants to sell more meat.

High protein feels better for %99.9 of the population.
 
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You also think hgh for anti aging is a myth?
In a way, yes.

Hgh will increase collagen in your skin, help tissue repair: etc

Which will make you appear younger and feel younger.

But it will also age you under the surface.

Once youre old you arent supposed to have good skin and bones and whatnot. Because the body cant keep that up so it sacrifices tissue making you look older. So when you start doing GH when youre older youre overloading the body in a sense, which does age you faster and it shortens your lifespan.

Its like trimming an old half broken car to go 100mph. Yeah, it may function well and as if its new. But it will only break down faster in the long run.
 
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Brutal for all high protein gymcels.

Additionally, specific amino acids (AAs), including methionine or branched-chain AAs (BCAAs), are associated with the regulation of lifespan/ageing and metabolism through multiple mechanisms


"We studied simple organisms, mice, and humans and provide convincing evidence that a high-protein diet — particularly if the proteins are derived from animals — is nearly as bad as smoking for your health,"
Who is the dude in your pfp ?
 
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Insane cope. You can't rely on studies for information anymore, not when you can literally find the exact opposite of this study funded by some other corporation that wants to sell more meat.

High protein feels better for %99.9 of the population.
why do you think its cope?
 
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Unless you are taking in a lot of processed carbs I don't buy this crap at all. Unless you are just eating a whole lot of it it is the best type of diet with enough vegetables. I think Vegan interests push this mess along with claiming meat causes cancer when its really the trash processed carbs that up your chances.
 
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High iq thread not for me:feelsgah:
 
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why do you think its cope?
"because it feels better for 99.9% of the population" :lul:
I don't have to point out that your body is made up of muscle, so you need a lot of protein to maintain that. Eating food of any kind ages you, water is wet, it's not fucking rocket science. However, you can minimize your food intake to only what you truly need. So about 2,000-2,200 calories for the average male with adequate protein levels.

You need protein for your hormones to function and develop. Most of you assholes skipped school and haven't learned shit about basic human biology.
 
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Balance buddy. Even the nutritioists who study this shit for a living don't ditch meat. They just eat less of it. But the consensus is that plant based is best for longevity. For performance more protein sources might help. Please don't be like those boring ass reactionary " hurr durr they wanna take my masculine meat " Right Wingers on twitter
More vegan propaganda, ban meat already and eat the soy.
 
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Balance buddy. Even the nutritioists who study this shit for a living don't ditch meat. They just eat less of it. But the consensus is that plant based is best for longevity. For performance more protein sources might help. Please don't be like those boring ass reactionary " hurr durr they wanna take my masculine meat " Right Wingers on twitter
If you haven't noticed already that they want to convince you to stop taking meat and ban it if possible, like they used to ban peasants from hunting, you are retarded, RE TAR DED.
Consumption of meat just as bad as smoking, give me a break.
 
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If you haven't noticed already that they want to convince you to stop taking meat and ban it if possible, like they used to ban peasants from hunting, you are retarded, RE TAR DED.
Consumption of meat just as bad as smoking, give me a break.
Smoking harms are overrated and two I am not talking about those beyond meat bastards but nutritionists with certified degrees. You are the one who is retarded you motherfucker, can't touch me
 
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Yep, thats because protein signals growth to the body through i think it was called "mtor pathway".

Same thing with GHmaxxing. You grow, but you dont live as long.

Ideal is high protein intake when young, and low when adult after 25
Mtor activation is helpful and necessary. Mtor being activated, half of the time is good.

Think of Mtor as anabolic.
And Ampk as catabolic.

Activating both of these pathways intermittently is ideal.

Also ingesting enough protein (.7-1g per LB of BW) is good for muscle mass. And muscle mass is directly youthful and anti aging.

OP is dumb and dosent understand why protein could be reduce lifespan.
 
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Brutal for all high protein gymcels.

Additionally, specific amino acids (AAs), including methionine or branched-chain AAs (BCAAs), are associated with the regulation of lifespan/ageing and metabolism through multiple mechanisms


"We studied simple organisms, mice, and humans and provide convincing evidence that a high-protein diet — particularly if the proteins are derived from animals — is nearly as bad as smoking for your health,"
lmfao. Imagine saying protein is bad for you. I guess thousands of years of eating protein was killing the people huh?
 
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Yeah I plan to go lower protein after 30 when your body isn’t that anabolic anyway and you got your most gains
You need high protein to increase and keep muscle mass. Which is extremely healthy.

Over activation of MTOR is bad, which can be off put by fasting.

Also protein is the most important macronutrient for staying lean. And fat = ruined health and longevity.
 
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Balance buddy. Even the nutritioists who study this shit for a living don't ditch meat. They just eat less of it. But the consensus is that plant based is best for longevity. For performance more protein sources might help. Please don't be like those boring ass reactionary " hurr durr they wanna take my masculine meat " Right Wingers on twitter
LMFAO. Limit meat? Plant based is absolutely stupid. Imagine limiting meat which humans have been eating for thousands of years, which they never had any cancers or anything health detriments.
 
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LMFAO. Limit meat? Plant based is absolutely stupid. Imagine limiting meat which humans have been eating for thousands of years, which they never had any cancers or anything health detriments.
Men literally died at 40. OMFG are you this retarded? Keep eating bro , I have no stakes in this bs believe what you want.
 
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Men literally died at 40. OMFG are you this retarded? Keep eating bro , I have no stakes in this bs believe what you want.
Men died at 40 because of primitive medicine, are you thick?
 
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Men died at 40 because of primitive medicine, are you thick?
The only primitive medicine was bloodletting lmao. Please don't talk about what you know nothing about
 
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The only primitive medicine was bloodletting lmao. Please don't talk about what you know nothing about
What are you a scientist? Are you seriously implying MEAT caused men to die before 40? wtf?
 
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What are you a scientist? Are you seriously implying MEAT caused men to die before 40? wtf?
No, just implied people didn't use to live as long as you made out to live. Please improve your comprehension skills.
 
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No, just implied people didn't use to live as long as you made out to live. Please improve your comprehension skills.
I didn’t make make anyone out to live a long time. I said humans have been eating meat for thousands of years and none got cancer or any other health detriments.
 
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Protein inhibits the expression of the longevity gene mTOR:



Skip to 12:17 if you like.
 
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mtor and IGF-1 systemic activation will lead to shorter lifespan, it's basically the "live better quality life VS longer life" here,

IMO once you reach 30 or so, it becomes a trade-off between the two, in your daily lifestyle choices.
 
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Brutal for all high protein gymcels.

Additionally, specific amino acids (AAs), including methionine or branched-chain AAs (BCAAs), are associated with the regulation of lifespan/ageing and metabolism through multiple mechanisms


"We studied simple organisms, mice, and humans and provide convincing evidence that a high-protein diet — particularly if the proteins are derived from animals — is nearly as bad as smoking for your health,"
I read studies and a good book also. About longevity and food.

Carbs intake to much, are bad for aging. And protein much intake are bad also for aging, but less bad than carbs.

Ideally for longevity. Is to be having limited food intake. Look like a weak low muscle mass sissy boy

You will life longest that way.

Longevity and looksmaxxing for maxximum AMV appeal, regularly don't go hand in hand.
 
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I read studies and a good book also. About longevity and food.

Carbs intake to much, are bad for aging. And protein much intake are bad also for aging, but less bad than carbs.

Ideally for longevity. Is to be having limited food intake. Look like a weak low muscle mass sissy boy

You will life longest that way.

Longevity and looksmaxxing for maxximum AMV appeal, regularly don't go hand in hand.
just be a twink theory for longevity theory lulz; also,

don't castrated males live longer too on average?

 
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just be a twink theory for longevity theory lulz; also,

don't castrated males live longer too on average?

I realised after research also.

plenty long-lifeity match well with looksmaxxing.
And some just don't.

One of them is. Living like a skinny fag, good for long-lifeity. sucks for smv
 
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"We studied simple organisms, mice, and humans and provide convincing evidence that a high-protein diet — particularly if the proteins are derived from animals — is nearly as bad as smoking for your health,"
@Prettyboy

So fucking obviously bought and paid for :popcorn:
You can’t make this shit up.
The food that evolved us is actually bad for us, how stupid can people be.
 
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Balance is needed in all things.
Humans were not meant to be gigantic hulking slabs of muscle - the hyper-caloric, hyper-proteic diet sustained long-term by some bodybuilders is obviously not what evolution meant for us, we are endurance predators.
 

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