High succes fighting face?

[Yoyo2233]

How true is this and why is that a high succes fighting face? A lot of mma champs don’t have that face, mcgregor, Jon Jones, tj dillishaw? How true is this and why is this considering a high succes fight face? All the good fighting ancestors had this face?

 

[Deleted member 6403]

doesn't directly correlate with fighting sucess but amount of testosterone.

 

[Incoming]

Most fighters have good brow ridge with deep set eyes, high t trait

 

[Bewusst]

You’re talking about fWHR. Which is partly influenced by hormones.

 

[GrayEyedBarrett]

high prenatal t means higher aggression and strength.

 

[Yoyo2233]

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high prenatal t means higher aggression and strength.

I have the prenatal face but didn’t look like that as a baby eyes were to open

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

doesn't directly correlate with fighting sucess but amount of testosterone.

Literally the opposite

How true is this and why is that a high succes fighting face? A lot of mma champs don’t have that face, mcgregor, Jon Jones, tj dillishaw? How true is this and why is this considering a high succes fight face? All the good fighting ancestors had this face?

FWHR is a factor but interestingly enough in MMA fighters, weight as opposed to FWHR predicts people's perception of their fighting ability.

 

[Deleted member 6856]

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high prenatal t means higher aggression and strength.

fucker dark triad based masculine prettyboy

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Literally the opposite

elab?

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

elab?

Further evidence for links between facial width-to-height ratio and fighting success: Commentary on Zilioli et al. (2014) - PubMed

Recent research has reported an association between facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) and both fighting performance and judgments of formidability in a sample of mixed martial arts (MMA) combatants. The results provide evidence of fWHR being associated with sporting performance and aggression...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Furthermore, we found positive associations between fWHR and fighting performance which appear to be independent of body size. Our findings provide further support for the proposal that fWHR is associated with fighting ability and perceived aggression, and that these effects are independent of body size. Therefore, fWHR might be considered as a viable and reliable marker for inference of success in male intra-sexual competition."

Further Evidence that Facial Width-to-Height Ratio and Global Facial Masculinity Are Not Positively Associated with Testosterone Levels | Request PDF

Request PDF | Further Evidence that Facial Width-to-Height Ratio and Global Facial Masculinity Are Not Positively Associated with Testosterone Levels | Objectives Facial masculinity, as for example measured by the facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) or the global facial masculinity index, has...

www.researchgate.net

"Objectives Facial masculinity, as for example measured by the facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) or the global facial masculinity index, has been associated with a vast range of behavioural traits, including dominance and aggression. Further, facial masculinity is thought to be influenced by testosterone (T) levels as an underlying mechanism. However, a recent meta-analysis on fWHR and T levels provided non-significant associations in men, which we wanted to examine further in men and additionally in women."

"Overall, our results provide further evidence that neither fWHR nor global facial masculinity are related to T levels and question earlier findings on male-biased sexual dimorphism in fWHR."

If I recall correctly adolescent t levels explain 8-13% of the variance of fwhr but no association with adult testosterone levels.
FWHR itself doesn't appear to be dimorphic so a strong association with androgens doesn't make sense
Facial masculinity is also not associated with elevated adult levels of testosterone.

 

[Mr.cope]

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high prenatal t means higher aggression and strength.

This
Masculinity and fwhr depends on the amount of testosterone in the womb

 

[Deleted member 2205]

Doesn't translate to direct testosterone levels. All 3 pictured above probable have above average T

 

[Ocelot]

https://looksmax.org/threads/facial-adaptations-which-lead-to-higher-fighting-success.122636/

 

[Hero of the Imperium]

HIGH FIGHTING SUCCESS
YES

And to think, I could have been even more if I had slept enough in high school