Hindustan Zindabad!

[Third Eye]

 

[Third Eye]

Glory to India! Jai Bharat, Jai Hind!

 

[SecularIslamist]

 

[Third Eye]

Not a single Rafale was shot down, there were just some debris that landed across the border, from what I have seen.

Also, Pakistan never provided any evidence for shooting them down. If Pakistan would shoot them, they would do PR. But they did not, because India was going to shoot down Pak F 16 with Su 30 MKI, and Pakistan panicked and shot those down, but they never had any evidence.

 

[SecularIslamist]

Not a single Rafale was shot down, there were just some debris that landed across the border, from what I have seen.

Also, Pakistan never provided any evidence for shooting them down. If Pakistan would shoot them, they would do PR. But they did not, because India was going to shoot down Pak F 16 with Su 30 MKI, and Pakistan panicked and shot those down, but they never had any evidence.

Even US and French officials have stated that they have. If there is debris don't you think it got shot down???

 

[Third Eye]

Even US and French officials have stated that they have. If there is debris don't you think it got shot down???

No. Debris can be from any other object, and that is why there was some, it can be from missiles, parts etc, and even the F16 crashes on their own.

Just because you can't provide 100% evidence, does not make it true either. A lot can be concluded from the evidence they did provide, and that is definitely not enough to prove they got the jets. Also, they refused to show the wreckage of them, and the only thing they provided were 2 pieces of a panel or something, and one of them was of Indian made missile itself.

 

[SecularIslamist]

No. Debris can be from any other object, and that is why there was some, it can be from missiles, parts etc, and even the F16 crashes on their own.

Just because you can't provide 100% evidence, does not make it true either. A lot can be concluded from the evidence they did provide, and that is definitely not enough to prove they got the jets. Also, they refused to show the wreckage of them, and the only thing they provided were 2 pieces of a panel or something, and one of them was of Indian made missile itself.

It was confirmed by independent sources that a jet or jets were shot down. Debris just doesn't come out of the air randomly...

There is a misinformation campaign on both sides they are trying to control the flow of information. Nobody will acknowledge they have lost anything, they want to spin that they have won it. In a few months time when tensions have died down, and nobody cares, India will quietly acknowledge that their jets were shot down and by then nobody will care or even notice.

 

[Deleted member 77427]

 

[Third Eye]

Debris just doesn't come out of the air randomly...

Debris doesn't, but what can happen, is that it just gets separated from the jet itself, when it crashes. It can just break off, and crash along the border.

 

[Third Eye]

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It is one piece. That alone cannot indicate a crash.

 

[Third Eye]

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Also, what that shows is, that the plane went in a crash dive, which is usually done by the pilot if the jet starts malfunctioning to save his life.

If the jet just crashed, those debris would be a lot larger.

 

[Deleted member 77427]

Also, what that shows is, that the plane went in a crash dive, which is usually done by the pilot if the jet starts malfunctioning to save his life.

If the jet just crashed, those debris would be a lot larger.

It clearly shows the number of the plane which India bought, additionally, without the tail, a jet will 100% crash no matter (it will lose balance), during fighting the tail must have fallen off and the jet must have crashed elsewhere.

 

[Deleted member 142050]

Great video. Thsnks for sharing. Jai Hind

 

[Jason Voorhees]

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It clearly shows the number of the plane which India bought, additionally, without the tail, a jet will 100% crash no matter (it will lose balance), during fighting the tail must have fallen off and the jet must have crashed elsewhere.

India did lose a few jets for sure in its initial raid. IAF Air Marshall more or less confirmed it in his tweet when he said losses were expected. They didn't talk about the jets in the presser yesterday but they did acknowledge the civilian casualties

True but it can still be reliably learnt from satellite images and evidences provided what happened

I have researched it quite a lot actually. Pakistan shot down 2 rafales 1 su and 1 UAV and bunch drones. IAF mainly lost these jets because of overconfidence and carelessly firing with them without proper SEADs and learnt it's lesson after the initial raids in which India destroyed the Lahore Air defenses HQ-9, HQ-16 and drones with S-400, raided the air bases on Nur Khan in Pindi,Murid, Skardu, Sialkot etc. India did more territorial/strategic damage by targeting key areas. India also shot down a few of PAF's jets. There like 30+ pics like these from satellite images of the key air bases. India destroyed while Pakistan did more monetary damage by shooting down jets and drones. IAF more or less confirmed there were loses in their recent tweet.



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[Deleted member 77427]

India did lose a few jets for sure in its initial raid. IAF Air Marshall more or less confirmed it in his tweet when he said losses were expected. They didn't talk about the jets in the presser yesterday but they did acknowledge the civilian casualties

I think India did lose more than just a few, at least 7 to 9 within the few days considering Pakistan's air defenses capability is superb, this is because the have advantageous terrain and spend billions of dollars on defense rather than offensive as opposed to India. India also confirmed they lost their 1.3 billion USD air defense system in Pakistan bombings across North India.

 

[Deleted member 112683]

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