historically Christian countries should NOT HAVE ANY freedom of religion

[coastal]

it's so insane that so many muslims and hindus are praying to demons on Christian land

if you live in a historically Christian country you should only be allowed to be
a) Christian
b) chill agnostic/atheist

THATS IT

get all other religions out of europe

 

[Surfsup]

Dnr pay the jizya tax

 

[dhusc]

it's so insane that so many muslims and hindus are praying to demons on Christian land

if you live in a historically Christian country you should only be allowed to be
a) Christian
b) chill agnostic/atheist

THATS IT

get all other religions out of europe

christian niggas will do anything but go to church on a sunday

 

[cold_nano]

Love from tel aviv

 

[coastal]

christian niggas will do anything but go to church on a sunday

actually i havent been to church this sunday feels bad man im gonna go next

 

[Jason5000]

true. There should be freedom to be an athiest tho but converts to other religions should be deported

 

[SStalinist]

it's so insane that so many muslims and hindus are praying to demons on Christian land

if you live in a historically Christian country you should only be allowed to be
a) Christian
b) chill agnostic/atheist

THATS IT

get all other religions out of europe

It doesn't really make sense to oppose non-Christian beliefs as a Christian but then also be fine with "chill" unbelievers anyway, even from a Christian theological standpoint. You'd have to be against both.

 

[Thodian]

 

[coastal]

It doesn't really make sense to oppose non-Christian beliefs as a Christian but then also be fine with "chill" unbelievers anyway, even from a Christian theological standpoint. You'd have to be against both.

atheism/agnosticism is less of a position and more of a non position if that makes sense. i do believe that we should promote Christianity and Christian values, but we also shouldnt force them on people. everyone has a God given right to accept or reject God, and it's not for us to decide.

also in terms of morality, values and beliefs an average atheist is much, much closer to a Christian than a muslim is

opposing the beliefs and opposing the people themselves isnt the same thing. just because i like pineapples but my mom hates them doesnt mean i now have to be against my mom ykwim

and countries like Poland are great examples of the overwhelming majority of people freely choosing to be Christian is a Christian society

 

[coastal]

broski you gotta learn new slurs this shi is lowtier as hell

 

[Hess]

IMO since the age of enlightenment Europe has mostly been secular with Christianity just being a core part of the culture, even the christians then agreed with separation of religion and state, the problem with non white immigrants today isnt cuz of their religion but their race

 

[eology]

it's so insane that so many muslims and hindus are praying to demons on Christian land

if you live in a historically Christian country you should only be allowed to be
a) Christian
b) chill agnostic/atheist

THATS IT

get all other religions out of europe

practice idolatry and sodomy then wonder why natural disasters

 

[iblamejordan1]

it's so insane that so many muslims and hindus are praying to demons on Christian land

if you live in a historically Christian country you should only be allowed to be
a) Christian
b) chill agnostic/atheist

THATS IT

get all other religions out of europe

Bet

 

[ØUROBOROS]

Never happening cry about it cracker

 

[coastal]

IMO since the age of enlightenment Europe has mostly been secular with Christianity just being a core part of the culture, even the christians then agreed with separation of religion and state,

not really, the overwhelming majority of people were Christian, even if the nobility and aristocracy were heavily influenced with secular ideas. but i understand what ur getting at sure

the problem with non white immigrants today isnt cuz of their religion but their race

largely yes, best case scenario we dont have any brown people. but if they were Christian it still wouldve been much better

 

[coastal]

Never happening cry about it cracker
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yea broski lemme go hide my goats real quick

 

[eology]

IMO since the age of enlightenment Europe has mostly been secular with Christianity just being a core part of the culture, even the christians then agreed with separation of religion and state, the problem with non white immigrants today isnt cuz of their religion but their race

enlightement of all sorts is a clear path to calamity

 

[coastal]

enlightement of all sorts is a clear path to calamity

yes, very much so.

 

[SStalinist]

atheism/agnosticism is less of a position and more of a non position if that makes sense. i do believe that we should promote Christianity and Christian values, but we also shouldnt force them on people. everyone has a God given right to accept or reject God, and it's not for us to decide.

also in terms of morality, values and beliefs an average atheist is much, much closer to a Christian than a muslim is

opposing the beliefs and opposing the people themselves isnt the same thing. just because i like pineapples but my mom hates them doesnt mean i now have to be against my mom ykwim

and countries like Poland are great examples of the overwhelming majority of people freely choosing to be Christian is a Christian society

I believe atheism and agnosticism would technically be treated as real positions of rejection/suspension of belief and not mere neutral "non-positions" but apart from that you're right.

 

[Hess]

largely yes, best case scenario we dont have any brown people. but if they were Christian it still wouldve been much better

Depends on the Christianity tbh, catholiscm is nothing more than a disgusting nigger worshipping NGO that hates any form of politics that arent dedicated to uplifting the brown biomass, Protestantism at the very least is better because it does not have some unified clerical force that will act as a fifth column in your nation's politcs and can largely be left as supplements to a person's personal life (IE how the NSDAP treated christianity despite disliking it privately)

 

[whiteegyptian]

it's so insane that so many muslims and hindus are praying to demons on Christian land

if you live in a historically Christian country you should only be allowed to be
a) Christian
b) chill agnostic/atheist

THATS IT

get all other religions out of europe

it's almost like those christcucks don't actually hate atheists. they hate muslims more because they believe in a slightly different variation of the fairytale jfl.

 

[coastal]

I believe atheism and agnosticism would technically be treated as real positions of rejection/suspension of belief and not mere neutral "non-positions" but apart from that you're right.

i mean agnosticism by definition is a non affirmative position with no knowledge claims. and most people claiming to be atheists are just agnostics, and are coming from a lack of evidence position rather than an evidence of lack

 

[coastal]

Depends on the Christianity tbh, catholiscm is nothing more than a disgusting nigger worshipping NGO that hates any form of politics that arent dedicated to uplifting the brown biomass, Protestantism at the very least is better because it does not have some unified clerical force that will act as a fifth column in your nation's politcs and can largely be left as supplements to a person's personal life (IE how the NSDAP treated christianity despite disliking it privately)

yep, all very true. from my personal experience speaking to Catholics i feel like there's a lot of very very faithful good people, even if the roman see is pretty corrupt after V 1 and 2. and protestantism is actually not as bad if it's high church, like trad Lutheran or Anglican, but for the most part evangelical/non denom are barely Christian and believe whatever.

 

[coastal]

it's almost like those christcucks don't actually hate atheists. they hate muslims more because they believe in a slightly different variation of the fairytale jfl.

values most atheists hold are very similar to Christian, and islam is as far away from Christianity as it can get. if u think it's just a slightly different variation ur obviously ignorant as fuck lmao

 

[whiteegyptian]

values most atheists hold are very similar to Christian, and islam is as far away from Christianity as it can get. if u think it's just a slightly different variation ur obviously ignorant as fuck lmao

i mean yeah. that's because most atheists are just western christians who stopped believing.

but on another thread you said you'd tolerate ethnic christians. who despite christianity have a way different culture to whites.

 

[.dark]

get muslim scums out of europe

 

[coastal]

i mean yeah. that's because most atheists are just western christians who stopped believing.

but on another thread you said you'd tolerate ethnic christians. who despite christianity have a way different culture to whites.

id prefer not to have any ethnic Christian but we gotta be realistic here, it's much harder to get every nigger out of here than it is to make them Christian. and id take a white atheist over a brown Christian any day

 

[Hess]

yep, all very true. from my personal experience speaking to Catholics i feel like there's a lot of very very faithful good people, even if the roman see is pretty corrupt after V 1 and 2. and protestantism is actually not as bad if it's high church, like trad Lutheran or Anglican, but for the most part evangelical/non denom are barely Christian and believe whatever.

My politics are fairly against christianity in general but I could never out right hate the protestants as they have always been run by peoples of good character (I grew up dutch reformed/calvinist and the churches back in the day in my country used to preach a very racial message which I appreciate, and i do have sympathies and respect to a lot of Calvinist, puritan and lutherean cultures in general)

 

[JewishNationalist]

christianity is disgusting tbh i would never pray to some shitty being i don't even personally know

 

[Divineincel]

it's so insane that so many muslims and hindus are praying to demons on Christian land

if you live in a historically Christian country you should only be allowed to be
a) Christian
b) chill agnostic/atheist

THATS IT

get all other religions out of europe

What about satanism

 

[JewishNationalist]

atheism/agnosticism is less of a position and more of a non position if that makes sense. i do believe that we should promote Christianity and Christian values, but we also shouldnt force them on people. everyone has a God given right to accept or reject God, and it's not for us to decide.

also in terms of morality, values and beliefs an average atheist is much, much closer to a Christian than a muslim is

opposing the beliefs and opposing the people themselves isnt the same thing. just because i like pineapples but my mom hates them doesnt mean i now have to be against my mom ykwim

and countries like Poland are great examples of the overwhelming majority of people freely choosing to be Christian is a Christian society

im atheist and tbh to me morality is basically: good means what i like and evil means what i dislike. if i'd like to kill someone i would do this if there was no government. at least muslims believe in some objective morality which is kinda foolish imo

 

[JewishNationalist]

IMO since the age of enlightenment Europe has mostly been secular with Christianity just being a core part of the culture, even the christians then agreed with separation of religion and state, the problem with non white immigrants today isnt cuz of their religion but their race

religion is also a problem. thats my most fav thing about the age of enlightenment: its secularization. i don't like the rest though like bullshit slop egalitarism or freedom that they wanted. imo inequality and slavery are common things, not bad

 

[JewishNationalist]

values most atheists hold are very similar to Christian, and islam is as far away from Christianity as it can get. if u think it's just a slightly different variation ur obviously ignorant as fuck lmao

yes this is the problem. sadly the worst part about christianity didn't die (its values). christian values still live in basically all political ideologies. and political ideologies are basically secular christianity. like, liberalism came from calvinism, communism came from munzer, nationalism (and then nazicuckery) from luther. and they all hold the same fallacy that we should make everyones life better and make people more equal, they differ only how they want to achieve that.
christian values were disgusting, they were egalitarian, they rejected might makes right principle. and thats followed by modern ideologies like i said are basicaly secular christcuckery @Hess

 

[Hess]

yes this is the problem. sadly the worst part about christianity didn't die (its values). christian values still live in basically all political ideologies. and political ideologies are basically secular christianity. like, liberalism came from calvinism, communism came from munzer, nationalism (and then nazicuckery) from luther. and they all hold the same fallacy that we should make everyones life better and make people more equal, they differ only how they want to achieve that.
christian values were disgusting, they were egalitarian, they rejected might makes right principle. and thats followed by modern ideologies like i said are basicaly secular christcuckery @Hess

National socialism rejects Christianity explicitly though, they were the least christian state of all time and the only peoples that explicitly rejected liberalism at its whole

 

[JewishNationalist]

National socialism rejects Christianity explicitly though, they were the least christian state of all time and the only peoples that explicitly rejected liberalism at its whole

its origin is in liberalism though (its the first political ideology ever from that all ideologies including nazism derived) and liberalism's origin is in christianity. they reject liberalism because they had different view on how to make society better. thats it. and imo its main problem is having a goal to make society better rather than just living your own life without giving a fuck about weaklings who yap about racial oppression of aryans or bourgeious oppression of prols or whatever

 

[Hess]

its origin is in liberalism though (its the first political ideology ever from that all ideologies including nazism derived) and liberalism's origin is in christianity. they reject liberalism because they had different view on how to make society better. thats it. and imo its main problem is having a goal to make society better rather than just living your own life without giving a fuck about weaklings who yap about racial oppression of aryans or bourgeious oppression of prols or whatever

Not really, and they never said aryans were oppressed, just that jews were a thorn in aryan society and that no matter the conditions said aryans will always thrive and that the government should aggressively pursue the interests of the nation, also the nationalism you are saying that originates from liberalism is not the same as the nationalism that has existed naturally thousands of years before that, the concept of a german peoples existed long before the idea of a nation state, and said peoples have always consistently fought and operatesd in their interest, liberals want to make a utopia, nazism is explicitly against that and believes that racial conflict and struggle is the nature of life and that we should simply orientate the state around this struggle

“Struggle is the father of all things. It is not by the principles of humanity that man lives or is able to preserve himself above the animal world, but solely by means of the most brutal struggle.” - adolf hitler​

"He who would live must fight. He who does not wish to fight in this world, where permanent struggle is the law of life, has not the right to exist." - AH again


I think these quotes show explicitly that they didnt operate in the liberal moral sense that the state should be consistently operated towards to some vague humanitarian goal or linear progress to a utopia

 

[TheSadAlbanian]

womp womp kafir pay the jiziya

 

[Ghoulish]

it's so insane that so many muslims and hindus are praying to demons on Christian land

if you live in a historically Christian country you should only be allowed to be
a) Christian
b) chill agnostic/atheist

THATS IT

get all other religions out of europe

What

Athiests would be the least likely retard, atleast other abrahamics were considered believers of the same one god.

This nigga said athiests like they wouldn’t be BELOW the idle worshippers. Smartest slavshit also no one cares nigga russia isnt even orthodox anymore most you niggas are atheist or dead in the trenches of bakhmut.

 

[Hess]

womp womp kafir pay the jiziya

sorry i'm from Albania we don't know how to read or write and have 30 iq and we love to steal , this is very normal for people from my country Albania we are famously known to be thieves, swindlers and morons. my country stole all of its history and culture from superior neighboring nations

 

[JewishNationalist]

Not really, and they never said aryans were oppressed, just that jews were a thorn in aryan society and that no matter the conditions said aryans will always thrive and that the government should aggressively pursue the interests of the nation, also the nationalism you are saying that originates from liberalism is not the same as the nationalism that has existed naturally thousands of years before that, the concept of a german peoples existed long before the idea of a nation state, and said peoples have always consistently fought and operatesd in their interest, liberals want to make a utopia, nazism is explicitly against that and believes that racial conflict and struggle is the nature of life and that we should simply orientate the state around this struggle

its just how nazis see ideal society. ideal society to nazis is were no jews and germans dominate. they also thought that germans with certain phenotype were equal to each other which is ofc retarded left wing thought. they were hating on jews because they thought that they were an obstacle to german domination. in nazi model, for german hating a jew makes sense because in their view jews are oppressing germans (they even thought that they lost ww1 due to jews and that weimar republic crisis was also because of the jews. if they haven't seen that as oppression then idk what is it called). in reality though, if we follow more ubermensch logic, then if germans were somehow a superior race to jews, then why tf do they even hate jews? this would be on the same tier of retardation like hating some garbage irrelevant rat. like, germans wouldn't give a fuck about jews in that case. actually nazis just reversed values. jews are superior and germans are inferior if we think that jews run the world, thats just causes hatred in more inferior races thus they reverse values like as if these are jews were inferior lmfao.

“Struggle is the father of all things. It is not by the principles of humanity that man lives or is able to preserve himself above the animal world, but solely by means of the most brutal struggle.” - adolf hitler​

"He who would live must fight. He who does not wish to fight in this world, where permanent struggle is the law of life, has not the right to exist." - AH again


I think these quotes show explicitly that they didnt operate in the liberal moral sense that the state should be consistently operated towards to some vague humanitarian goal or linear progress to a utopia

again the nazis had a model for ideal society, it was just called "1000 reich" not "liberated society"

 

[Hess]

its just how nazis see ideal society. ideal society to nazis is were no jews and germans dominate. they were hating on jews because they thought that they were an obstacle to german domination. in nazi model, for german hating a jew makes sense because in their view jews are oppressing germans (they even thought that they lost ww1 due to jews and that weimar republic crisis was also because of the jews. if they haven't seen that as oppression then idk what is it called). in reality though, if we follow more ubermensch logic, then if germans were somehow a superior race to jews, then why tf do they even hate jews? this would be like hating some garbage irrelevant rat. like, germans wouldn't give a fuck about jews in that case. actually nazis just reversed values. jews are superior and germans are inferior if we think that jews run the world, thats just causes hatred in more inferior races thus they reverse values like as if these are jews were inferior lmfao.

Jews werent seen as some weak peoples, they did view them as an equal threat to german society and never tried to portray them as such, its because they believed were such an equal threat that they condemned them to death and decided that they were in a racial struggle against the jews in their nation, them fighting for german interests is perfectly logical, them explicilty rejecting morality outright is fairly nietzschean and they followed his ideals when they evolved into a more pan-european ideology during the war, they were the only purely illiberal state of its time and emulated the morality of antiquity moreso than any modern state, not to mention that they never saw their race as purely all equal and were anti-hierachial, the SS was a means of recreating the aristocracy

again the nazis had a model for ideal society, it was just called "1000 reich" not "liberated society"

I think that is way too vague to call them the same as utopian liberals

 

[JewishNationalist]

Jews werent seen as some weak peoples, they did view them as an equal threat to german society and never tried to portray them as such, its because they believed were such an equal threat that they condemned them to death and decided that they were in a racial struggle against the jews in their nation, them fighting for german interests is perfectly logical, them explicilty rejecting morality outright is fairly nietzschean and they followed his ideals when they evolved into a more pan-european ideology during the war, they were the only purely illiberal state of its time and emulated the morality of antiquity moreso than any modern state, not to mention that they never saw their race as purely all equal and were anti-hierachial, the SS was a means of recreating the aristocracy

I think that is way too vague to call them the same as utopian liberals

nah, its not only 3rd reich was illiberal. like most states in that time period weren't liberal. the only country that was liberal was america. i mean that nazism originates from liberalism but i've never claimed that they are literally 1:1 same although they still have similarities at least in dividing is/ought but in case with nazism the "is" is jewish domination and "ought" is german one. and jews were the bottom of racial hierarchy on same shit tier as slavs (slavs were hated because germans were jealous to how big russia is). i just assume if you think that some race is shit even if its influential and or high iq or just strong, then you probably hate/ resent them (otherwise you wouldn't lie about their qualities and wouldn't put them lower in hierarchies), and if you hate/resent them then you are inferior since the start because you were probably oppressed by that race. nazism is just new morality but for germans. its like christianity is a morality specifically for slaves, or like communism is morality specifically for prols
nazism is nothing nietzschean. maybe it has slight similarities in having warrior tendencies but their structures are entirely different. nietzsche disliked germans as a nation anyways and he liked jews more