Honest rate me PSL and how i can asccend with or without surgery

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I am 23 years old and I would like a detailed and objective facial analysis.

I actually posted on this forum about 4 years ago, so I’m also curious if your evaluation standards or rating system have changed since then.

Please evaluate my face based on the following criteria:

- Overall facial harmony and proportions
- Symmetry
- Jawline definition and chin projection
- Cheekbone structure
- Eye area (shape, spacing, canthal tilt, eyelid exposure)
- Nose proportions and alignment
- Skin quality
- Hair and hairline

If possible, provide:

1. An approximate rating (and explain why)
2. My strengths (genetic positives)
3. My weaknesses or areas for improvement
4. Specific, actionable advice to improve my appearance (gym, grooming, hairstyle, posture, etc.)
5. Whether my features are more “universally attractive” or niche

Please be honest and direct rather than overly nice.

Also, if possible, I would appreciate any comparison to how I might have been rated 4 years ago, assuming similar standards.
 

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bro, what have you done in the past 4 years
 
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debloat and get a haircut that actually suits ur face, you have a pretty decent base tbh
 
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debloat and get a haircut that actually suits ur face, you have a pretty decent base tbh
Dudes 23. His base is his final product
 
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unideal - ESR, midface ratio, mouth to nose, jaw width, face height
ideal - fwhr, eye aspect, lower third, chin to philtrum (very close)
 
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your side is good
 
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Ltn
 
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bro, what have you done in the past 4 years
Well over the past 4 years, I’ve focused on improving myself overall.

I’ve been working on my physique, taking better care of my grooming and style, and gaining more real-life experience socially. I’ve also been focusing on my studies and building discipline.

I’m not claiming to be perfect, but I’ve definitely improved compared to before, and I’m still working on getting better.
 
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unideal - ESR, midface ratio, mouth to nose, jaw width, face height
ideal - fwhr, eye aspect, lower third, chin to philtrum (very close)
Appreciate the detailed breakdown. That’s actually helpful.

I’ve been working on improving overall (physique, grooming, etc.), so it’s good to know what areas stand out and what I can still improve.
 
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I am 23 years old and I would like a detailed and objective facial analysis.

I actually posted on this forum about 4 years ago, so I’m also curious if your evaluation standards or rating system have changed since then.

Please evaluate my face based on the following criteria:

- Overall facial harmony and proportions
- Symmetry
- Jawline definition and chin projection
- Cheekbone structure
- Eye area (shape, spacing, canthal tilt, eyelid exposure)
- Nose proportions and alignment
- Skin quality
- Hair and hairline

If possible, provide:

1. An approximate rating (and explain why)
2. My strengths (genetic positives)
3. My weaknesses or areas for improvement
4. Specific, actionable advice to improve my appearance (gym, grooming, hairstyle, posture, etc.)
5. Whether my features are more “universally attractive” or niche

Please be honest and direct rather than overly nice.

Also, if possible, I would appreciate any comparison to how I might have been rated 4 years ago, assuming similar standards.
23 psl
 
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Appreciate the detailed breakdown. That’s actually helpful.

I’ve been working on improving overall (physique, grooming, etc.), so it’s good to know what areas stand out and what I can still improve.
you definitely have alot of room to improve with only softmaxxing which is a good thing
your goal should be to get perfect hair which suits you and brings out good features, try to get some contrast
get your skin as good as it can be
then you will be good
 
debloat and get a haircut that actually suits ur face, you have a pretty decent base tbh
Thank you, that’s solid advice.

I’ve been working on getting leaner, and I’m planning to switch up my haircut soon. Any specific styles you think would suit my face shape?
 
I am 23 years old and I would like a detailed and objective facial analysis.

I actually posted on this forum about 4 years ago, so I’m also curious if your evaluation standards or rating system have changed since then.

Please evaluate my face based on the following criteria:

- Overall facial harmony and proportions
- Symmetry
- Jawline definition and chin projection
- Cheekbone structure
- Eye area (shape, spacing, canthal tilt, eyelid exposure)
- Nose proportions and alignment
- Skin quality
- Hair and hairline

If possible, provide:

1. An approximate rating (and explain why)
2. My strengths (genetic positives)
3. My weaknesses or areas for improvement
4. Specific, actionable advice to improve my appearance (gym, grooming, hairstyle, posture, etc.)
5. Whether my features are more “universally attractive” or niche

Please be honest and direct rather than overly nice.

Also, if possible, I would appreciate any comparison to how I might have been rated 4 years ago, assuming similar standards.
ltn no explanation
 
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Appreciate the feedback. I know I’m not at my peak yet, but I’ve been working on improving, and I’ll keep building from here.
your at your peak trust me your 23 psl
 
Hahaha, brother. At least give some reasoning. A label without explanation doesn’t really help.
ill measure some ratios tomorrow on my computer if you'd like, remind me tmr.
 
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ill measure some ratios tomorrow on my computer if you'd like, remind me tmr.
Sounds good, I’d be interested to see the ratios. Appreciate you taking the time.

Also, if you had to give a rating from 1–10, where would you place me and why? A breakdown of strengths and areas to improve would be helpful.
 
Sounds good, I’d be interested to see the ratios. Appreciate you taking the time.

Also, if you had to give a rating from 1–10, where would you place me and why? A breakdown of strengths and areas to improve would be helpful.
hltn being average, id say ur a 4.5-4.75, big flaws being wideset eyes, short pfl, narrow temples from the side, which can be frauded with longer hair, and visible recessed radix from the front. Strongpoints being ur bizygomatic width and lips.
 
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hltn being average, id say ur a 4.5-4.75, big flaws being wideset eyes, short pfl, narrow temples from the side, which can be frauded with longer hair, and visible recessed radix from the front. Strongpoints being ur bizygomatic width and lips.
I used the rear camera for those photos, not the front one.

I tried to keep the distance and angles as neutral as possible.
Appreciate the breakdown.

What kind of haircut would you recommend to balance out the temples and eye area?
 
Haha 4.5-4.75
I used the rear camera for those photos, not the front one.

I tried to keep the distance and angles as neutral as possible.
Appreciate the breakdown.

What kind of haircut would you recommend to balance out the temples and eye area?
I get that ratings can vary a lot depending on standards.
 
I used the rear camera for those photos, not the front one.

I tried to keep the distance and angles as neutral as possible.
Appreciate the breakdown.

What kind of haircut would you recommend to balance out the temples and eye area?
instant ascension
 

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instant ascension
Haha I didn’t expect that, but it actually looks interesting.

Do you think a longer, more textured hairstyle would suit me better than shorter cuts?
 
Haha I didn’t expect that, but it actually looks interesting.

Do you think a longer, more textured hairstyle would suit me better than shorter cuts?
the morph I showed you of the hair is genuinely slightly above average looking, imo youll be mtn if you can get that hair, as it hides ur biggest flaws, ur fwhr and narrow temples
 
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the morph I showed you of the hair is genuinely slightly above average looking, imo youll be mtn if you can get that hair, as it hides ur biggest flaws, ur fwhr and narrow temples
I’ve got wavy hair, so I’ll try growing it out and adding more texture.
 
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Well over the past 4 years, I’ve focused on improving myself overall.

I’ve been working on my physique, taking better care of my grooming and style, and gaining more real-life experience socially. I’ve also been focusing on my studies and building discipline.

I’m not claiming to be perfect, but I’ve definitely improved compared to before, and I’m still working on getting better.
Thats good, but now you have to get to work facially. Good for you making this post to make some progress
 
Thats good, but now you have to get to work facially. Good for you making this post to make some progress
Appreciate it, I’m working on improving overall.
 
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I am 23 years old and I would like a detailed and objective facial analysis.

I actually posted on this forum about 4 years ago, so I’m also curious if your evaluation standards or rating system have changed since then.

Please evaluate my face based on the following criteria:

- Overall facial harmony and proportions
- Symmetry
- Jawline definition and chin projection
- Cheekbone structure
- Eye area (shape, spacing, canthal tilt, eyelid exposure)
- Nose proportions and alignment
- Skin quality
- Hair and hairline

If possible, provide:

1. An approximate rating (and explain why)
2. My strengths (genetic positives)
3. My weaknesses or areas for improvement
4. Specific, actionable advice to improve my appearance (gym, grooming, hairstyle, posture, etc.)
5. Whether my features are more “universally attractive” or niche

Please be honest and direct rather than overly nice.

Also, if possible, I would appreciate any comparison to how I might have been rated 4 years ago, assuming similar standards.
4 years of what eating your own cum?
 

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