Honestly game is such a cope, it's looks or rejected.

[Deleted member 795]

Game, NT, is a pre-requisite for a normal functioning man.

This is what im talking about, "being NT" is normal human requisite, it is not that if you are nt you have a big game jfl

 

[Mr.cope]

It might improve it but NOT having game, NOT being NT, etc will undeniably decrease SMV.

It’s like water; by itself it’s not a magical thing that will increase bodily functions. But a lack of water will decrease normal bodily functions.

Game, NT, is a pre-requisite for a normal functioning man.

do you really think eboys and depressed prettyboys are nt

 

[wristcel]

LOL.

The traffic light, analogy. That they try to debunk there. Is kinda good concept actually.
It's good, when use that light system, to gauge her initial sexual attraction on your appearance. Basically.

I would say:
green: she into your looks and she is available.
Yellow: she could do you, but she doesn't find you hot perse. But when she is looking for settling and betabuxx stuff; she will give it a go. And you can maybe get with her, on the normal/common happening basis that you treat her, betabuxx her (a bit)
Red: the idea of physical contact with you, repulses her.

**************Quote:***********
Traffic Lights Method says:....

There are three kinds of girls out there:

1. GREENS, who are girls who are looking for you. These girls want you, are very compliant with you, and will happily go with you. These are the girls you want to find.
   
   
2. YELLOWS, who are girls who are on the fence about you. Maybe you can get them, but it is going to be a slog.
   
   
3. REDS, who are girls who are not interested in you at all. You are never going to pick these girls up for a same-night lay. Maybe you could sleep with such a girl over a series of dates. But it is going to take a lot of effort and probably isn't worth it.

Yes, the traffic light system is about right

HOWEVER, what happened was the 'mods' /writers (who are trying to sell their crap) realised that acknowledging this fact was kind of putting them out of business.

People were writing field reports and being like 'I opened her and ran some game. It was clear she wasn't into me so I moved on to the next set'. As I say, this made them realise that they needed to do something otherwise their business model was in trouble if people realised this was effectively irrelevant, and so they changed their tune and tried to debunk it all and now claim there are no 'reds'. If a girl is repulsed by you and you are 100% NOT her type, just use NLP (that's their 'special sauce' they try to market like how it was 'negs' back in the mysterymethod days etc) and make her super attracted to you no matter what

 

[Deleted member 5048]

I think game begins when a girl is attracted to you sexually

game exist, you just can't turn girl sexually attracted to you with it alone

 

[IdiAmin]

I just met her once because we have friends in common.
It happens that we talk a little on Instagram sometimes

Why didn't you asked her out on IG?

 

[eduardkoopman]

People were writing field reports and being like 'I opened her and ran some game. It was clear she wasn't into me so I moved on to the next set'. As I say, this made them realise that they needed to do something otherwise their business model was in trouble if people realised this was effectively irrelevant, and so they changed their tune and tried to debunk it all and now claim there are no 'reds'. If a girl is repulsed by you and you are 100% NOT her type, just use NLP (that's their 'special sauce' they try to market like how it was 'negs' back in the mysterymethod days etc) and make her super attracted to you no matter what

Staying talking with a woman, that is repulsed ny you (looks). And she signals, she want you to leave.

When you stay in such a convo. Like Pua coach suggests.
You are actually doing a lot of harm, potentially to yourself.
1. this is how haressment cases happen. ruining your status.
2. it fucks up your self esteem, because such convo's will make you feel bad. And the longer you stay in a convo that woman doesn't want. The more brutal she will get.

Usually, women reject a man quit pleasantly. the first time. It's the pushing for it; and kepping going on by the guy. That makes women go full savage rejection mode.

I found this video. a good summary. on the pua cringe, of hanging in there when a chick rejects you.

 

[gaymidget]

If game = Status, power. If game = Money/Wealth. Than I agree, game can help alot.

But as far as I know, game means: communication abilities and personality traits.
imo. the only personality traits that matter (matters less than looks). 1. extraversion. 2 being low in neuroticisms (calm/relaxed versus anxious/nervous (socially)).


Obvioulsy. but please stop taking outliers, autistic aspies as examples for this. because, obviously their lack of social abolity; fucks it up for them.
But most dudes, are average range in social abilities. Not bad, but not good either.

It's a negative factor for sure.
I'm not saying that being a giga pussy, won't screw stuff up. because it wil.. But your 2 firends are outliers level of pussies. Most men are significantly less pussy, I would think.

So.
these 2 good looking dudes.
Both basically being giga needy pussies, in their personality. KINDA outlier pussies levels; since most men are not that big a pussies I would think.

But they, inspite of being giga pussies, they still slayed and got a girlfirends
.
While a not good looking guy (aka me 10 years ago), whom is NOT needy in persona, and has quit strong mental state. Does not slay in general at all, nor gets alot of gf's and even has trouble getting 1 gf at all.

That kinda shows imo, how much looks helps. and how much game helps.

These 2 pussy guys, still got slays and gf's. Even though their game sucks, their mental state sucks, and they have weak personality, weak self esteem or confidence, and lack self respect.

LOL. I was kinda opposite. I am kinda ugly. But when I did mangage to get a gf, I was quit good at managing it imo. because I'm not a pussy in that sense.

1. It doesn't equal it perfectly but yes, Game is way of showing status. Confidence means that u have something to be confident about.

2. agree

3. Yeah but thats why you should try to get best out of your social skills.

4. No they weren't, thats my point. The tall guy is a bit more pussy than the average guy but he wasn't a push around in day to day life. The second guy is almost cartoonish because how much resembles the archetypical jock/alpha. Hes sporty, wide framed, always popular, always good with girls. Hes got the asshole jock personality where he bullies other people, is arrogant etc. His behavior with his gf wasn't that much extraordinary. 99% of guys would have reacted the same way over time. Every non red pilled guy gets needy and beta over time, thats why most relationships end up in either the gf leaving him or dead bedroom.

5. Yes but only if the relationship with the girl was short term. My point is, showing bad game is detrimental to success even with good looking guys. My case was long term relationships because most men tend to fuck up over time. But if you display beta behaviors in the beginning, the girl will be turned off the same way, even if you got looks.

6. Again, they weren't like this with girls normally. One was averagely good, the other was god like.

 

[Deleted member 795]

Why didn't you asked her out on IG?

Honestly i wanted to test the ground.

Her friend told me she Is not much interested in relationships, nor ons.

And lately i have not good experiences in trying with chicks, i asked to a girl in my social circle a month ago, worse psl than this one and mine, i had good game i guess since i asked her out without trouble, never anxious with her (i was confident) and never simped for her. Still she said no. So...

Also quarantine offers a good excuse to refuse a hang out

 

[Deleted member 795]

I found this video. a good summary. on the pua cringe, of hanging in there when a chick rejects you.

This is gold

 

[gaymidget]

I think game begins when a girl is attracted to you sexually

game exist, you just can't turn girl sexually attracted to you with it alone

You can put a women in 3 categories. Category 1: They will never fuck u because of your looks or status. Category 2: they 100% want to fuck u and category 3: they possibly would fuck u, but haven't decided yet. Essentially looks determine the categories but game can help you push category 3 into category 2.

 

[Deleted member 5185]

Game is important, but it obviously only matters if your overall status is high enough for the girl in question. That will for most guys be determined by overall looks (face, height, physique), for some by social status or fame.

If you don't look good enough / is high status enough for a girl, any game will be irrelevant cope bs that just embarasses you. If you however do look good enough, lack of game can ruin your chances, and well applied game can multiply her attraction tenfold.

 

[Deleted member 795]

Why didn't you asked her out on IG?

Also i guess she answered me after she watched accidentally a story of mine


like "fuck now i cant ignore him"

Idk, im just sad these days, prob im overthinking

 

[IdiAmin]

Also i guess she answered me after she watched accidentally a story of mine


like "fuck now i cant ignore him"

Idk, im just sad these days, prob im overthinking

You shouldn't care so much about it, don't attach yourself to any girl, and I like said, if you do, just tell her about it, so that you win and stop worrying either way (you fuck her or forget about her)

 

[Deleted member 795]

You shouldn't care so much about it, don't attach yourself to any girl, and I like said, if you do, just tell her about it, so that you win and stop worrying either way (you fuck her or forget about her)

Yeah i just ended every other chances.
It Is like keeping her for staying delusional..

Even cuz if (when) she will say no, it will be just embarassing with our friends

 

[IdiAmin]

Yeah i just ended every other chances.
It Is like keeping her for staying delusional..

Even cuz if (when) she will say no, it will be just embarassing with our friends

Nah, you shouldn't care about anyone expect yourself in this matter,

 

[ChangeOfHeart]

Yeah, this is venting because i tried to approach my oneitis answering to her story on ig where she wrote "they are pathetic", i went for a joke with "yo, who, me?" she answered after 8 hours with
"lol, why should be you?"
"idk, the subject was not clear"
she left me on read, if i were a chad the conversation would still be going on

I was confident since she reacted to some of my stories this day, but jfl, my feet are on the ground again.
There is no game, i'm not that gl how people say here, i'm disgusting, and even that bitch who people here thought i have a big chance said no.

jesus christ, ascend or death. Go for your "didnt read" or whatever, guys.

You have weak ass game, and complained that its all about looks. Fucking inbreds.

 

[Madhate]

Yeah, this is venting because i tried to approach my oneitis answering to her story on ig where she wrote "they are pathetic", i went for a joke with "yo, who, me?" she answered after 8 hours with
"lol, why should be you?"
"idk, the subject was not clear"
she left me on read, if i were a chad the conversation would still be going on

I was confident since she reacted to some of my stories this day, but jfl, my feet are on the ground again.
There is no game, i'm not that gl how people say here, i'm disgusting, and even that bitch who people here thought i have a big chance said no.

jesus christ, ascend or death. Go for your "didnt read" or whatever, guys.

nigga you just proved game matters
if you don't see anything wrong with that conversation you just wrote, you are legit autistic
"yo, who, me?" LMAOOOOOOO

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

tbh. WHEN THEY TRACK BEHAVIOR,
there is not that much difference in men and women. In how they select partners.
WOMEN ARE AS VISUAL AS MEN.

yeah that's the greatest lie ever told

I'd argue women are more visual than men since the bar to be attractive as a man is a lot higher

stuff like shoulder width and build in men are way more important than boobs and ass in women and having a shitty frame can put you into the ugly category even if your face is decent

I'm tired of all the lies

 

[Deleted member 795]

nigga you just proved game matters
if you don't see anything wrong with that conversation you just wrote, you are legit autistic
"yo, who, me?" LMAOOOOOOO

You have weak ass game, and complained that its all about looks. Fucking inbreds.

Yeah, Bla bla

If she says yes: "muh, you lowinhib, you look good, there's no game here"
If she says no : "your game's weak, i cant afford that" (no, you cant)

 

[Tusseleif]

If you have autism it’s over, not even looks can save you

 

[Deleted member 795]

If you have autism it’s over, not even looks can save you

If you have not autism you are not safe anyway.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

If you have autism it’s over, not even looks can save you

cope

 

[Tusseleif]

cope

No

 

[DrTony]

it (sosuave) is actually one of the more redpilled PUA forums believe it or not. Most on there tend to know what's up and that looks are what gets your foot in the door, and 'game' can help a little in certain situations

If you want to read completely deluded people who LITERALLY think you can be a 4ft tall 65 year old with no arms and legs and still pull hot teenagers on a regular basis, you should check out the 'skilledseducer' forum

The Traffic Light Method is weak and gay. Respect senior members

Lately there have been a few lame, dumb movements on the Boards. These movements are: Members who think they are hot shots because they follow the Traffic Light Method, who then go and argue with everyone else about it, trying to proselytize this Revolutionary New Method Members who think...

www.skilledseducer.com

or even certain posters on reddit lol

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No, game has ZERO impact on sexual success. Not little as you imply, Z-E-R-O. I am talking about men who do not have neuro-psychological abnormalities (like clinically diagnosed aspergers and the likes).

 

[Deleted member 13264]

Guess what? I didn't read.

How many times are you gonna say that dude? Your dark triad personality doesn't translate well onto a fucking incel forum.​

 

[zeke714]

Status is cope if you're not a celebrity or MMA fighter.

For majority of men, what women really want is a combination of face/height/frame + money. And of course, personality and social media helps.

 

[Deleted member 13264]

First of all, you gotta understand that women are nowhere near as visually oriented/driven as we are. Second, acting like you have plenty of options is not the only aspect of "game".

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WHY DID THEY GO TO THE BORING ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE. HOLY. DUDE, STOP.​

 

[Deleted member 12002]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
WHY DID THEY GO TO THE BORING ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE. HOLY. DUDE, STOP.​

Huh? Who's "they"? And who's boring?

 

[Deleted member 9989]

You can be GL but get rejected anyway because you behave like a beta / fag (me)

 

[Deleted member 9989]

"Imagine if a landwhale come to you for fucking, you say no and she replys "your loss" or acts like she has other males, jfl, will you crying after her then? of course not. Same with women, you act like a big man with many choices but she is not intimidated, she doesn't really care at all. And you know what? That theorycal landwhale actually have choices lol"

First of all, you gotta understand that women are nowhere near as visually oriented/driven as we are. Second, acting like you have plenty of options is not the only aspect of "game".

You've obviously not spent too much time around hight tier women. They lose interest in men all the time, because the man they initially thought was attractive turned out to be a beta only worthey of the friendzone. Once they actually got to know him he wasn't nearly as attractive as he looks. Happens all the time in the real world.

Brutal and relateable

 

[Deleted member 795]

You can be GL but get rejected anyway because you behave like a beta / fag (me)

As i said, not being a fag is not a game jfl. He's acting like a normal human being

 

[wristcel]

Someone redpill this guy who thinks he can 'influence' any girl into attraction with 'game' even if she thinks you''re hideous




We need to find these people one by one on reddit and aware them.

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Not really tbh
imo game can boost you anywhere from 0.5 - 2 points depending on the girl, at least irl

its about good conversation skills, being funny without being a jester, and being NT and not saying things that make you look unaware/awkward

 

[Deleted member 795]

Everything is fine with that girl anyway, she did hit me sometimes on ig after that episode