Hooded eyes and the correlation to body fat levels

[Deleted member 24379]

Is hooded eyes solely related to body fat percentage or are there other factors to consider?

Like for example, when 50 Cent went through his huge weight loss, he lost his hooded eyes, whereas model sean o pry is incredibly lean yet has hooded eyes.
Is there a correlation to body fat levels or is it purely genetics and fat distribution?

He is not the only case either as we know. Many other models alike are lean with hooded eyes.

 

[Birdcell]

Of course , I have the same , look at the diff

 

[Artemis]

Is hooded eyes solely related to body fat percentage or are there other factors to consider?

Like for example, when 50 Cent went through his huge weight loss, he lost his hooded eyes, whereas model sean o pry is incredibly lean yet has hooded eyes.
Is there a correlation to body fat levels or is it purely genetics and fat distribution?

He is not the only case either as we know. Many other models alike are lean with hooded eyes.

Hooded eyes is not only fat. O'Pry effectively has monolids, like asians. His eyelid is covered with brow-skin. Thus, no fat loss for him.

But yeah, in general, the hoodedness of eyes can be reduced in some people. However, this is a stubborn fat for most men, and not going anywhere even with severe weight loss.

 

[Deleted member 24379]

Onward to 12% bf I go then.

Is that literal when you say they brow skin is quite literally the skin which hangs down from his brow area?

Apologies if that question was fucked up, most of the things I say are.

 

[StrangerDanger]

O'Pry effectively has monolids, like asians. His eyelid is covered with brow-skin.

No he doesn't, he definitely does NOT have a MONOLID. His eyes are hooded by big chunks of fatpads not because of a thin loose tissue fold hanging over his eyes which would also create a soft round appearance as in Asians. Sure he has a slight epicanthal fold on his left eye but its not a monolid. Extremely big difference

Monolids(not epicanthal folds) are almost exclusively to Asians the only exception I can think off is Björk

 

[Artemis]

No he doesn't, he definitely does NOT have a MONOLID. His eyes are hooded by big chunks of fatpads not because of a thin loose tissue fold hanging over his eyes which would also create a soft round appearance as in Asians. Sure he has a slight epicanthal fold on his left eye but its not a monolid. Extremely big difference
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Monolids(not epicanthal folds) are almost exclusively to Asians the only exception I can think off is Björk

No man, he has monolids, absolutely.

THe ONLY difference between "hooded" and "monolid" is that "hooded" usually is "fat + skin" while monolid is "skin only". However, in opry case, what you see falling down is not fat, it is purely SKIN. He DOES have monolids.

Also asians look different ONLY because their orbits are large. If they had orbits compact like O'Pry they would have O'pry's hooded eyes pretty much.

Anyways, this is NOT only my opinion. There are literally plastic surgeons on RealSelf, who specifically said that O'PRY HAS MONOLIDS.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

No he doesn't, he definitely does NOT have a MONOLID. His eyes are hooded by big chunks of fatpads not because of a thin loose tissue fold hanging over his eyes which would also create a soft round appearance as in Asians. Sure he has a slight epicanthal fold on his left eye but its not a monolid. Extremely big difference
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Monolids(not epicanthal folds) are almost exclusively to Asians the only exception I can think off is Björk

Have you seen asians with no monolids?

 

[Deleted member 23554]

No he doesn't, he definitely does NOT have a MONOLID. His eyes are hooded by big chunks of fatpads not because of a thin loose tissue fold hanging over his eyes which would also create a soft round appearance as in Asians. Sure he has a slight epicanthal fold on his left eye but its not a monolid. Extremely big difference
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Monolids(not epicanthal folds) are almost exclusively to Asians the only exception I can think off is Björk

can i have something similar to o pry if i have almond eye shape and get shit ton og uee fillers

 

[StrangerDanger]

No man, he has monolids, absolutely.

THe ONLY difference between "hooded" and "monolid" is that "hooded" usually is "fat + skin" while monolid is "skin only". However, in opry case, what you see falling down is not fat, it is purely SKIN. He DOES have monolids.

Also asians look different ONLY because their orbits are large. If they had orbits compact like O'Pry they would have O'pry's hooded eyes pretty much.

Anyways, this is NOT only my opinion. There are literally plastic surgeons on RealSelf, who specifically said that O'PRY HAS MONOLIDS.

He does not in any form or shape have monolids. A monolid is a fine skin fold hanging over the upper eyelid which very different from hooded eyes that has large chunk of fatpads like pillows pulled forward and given support by the supraorbital rims hence the depth to them. If you would pinch the monolid you would barely have anything to pinch its just fine hanging skin tissue versus hooded eyes.
Two polar opposites and they should not be compared, anyone who does lacks any aesthetic knowledge at all. This would imply any person with hooded eyes have monolids.
See any thin round fold extending over to his entire upper eyelid or do you see just see a huge chunk of fat above his eyes?

The second statement is also utterly retarded, the "ONLY" difference between asian and europeans are definitely not only the size of the orbits, there is still change in soft tissue, eye shape and orbital projection to name a few

 

[StrangerDanger]

Have you seen asians with no monolids?

Yes and many undergo double eyelid surgery to remove it

can i have something similar to o pry if i have almond eye shape and get shit ton og uee fillers

Fat graft would be a better choice and no idea consult a surgeon, sounds like theorycrafting don't know if someone has done it + you would need proper orbital support or it may sag like in old men

 

[Dodevu]

I think a lot to do with water retention too, when I eat low sodium and carbs and also next day drinking my eyes have lids like Tommy Shelby, then soon as I start eating again they will fill out.

 

[FutureChadronelite]

OP, for my case I lose my hooded eyes when I go down in body fat or debloat myself.

 

[godfrey]

google a before and after of people who used to be extremely skinny or anorexic, after they gained weight their eyelids are more hooded and there isn't as much exposure.

 

[sub5outsider]

having a lot of body fat can make your eyes more hooded but would fuck your jawline

 

[Racky]

Sure he has a slight epicanthal fold on his left eye but its not a monolid

I was going to tell you you were wrong but then I realized I would have made a fool of myself.
He actually does have an epicanthal fold on one eye though it's very slight

In O'Pry's case they are so slight because his nose bridge is pulling the flap of skin I guess? Similar to when someone with more pronounced epicanthal folds pinches the skin around his nose bridge to see his medial canthus and lacrimal caruncle more?

So if an ethnic with a flat low rooted nose was to get nose bridge augmentation to get rid of epicanthal folds I guess the result would be similar to the kind O'Pry has? But you'd basically still have epicanthal folds, just that the flap of skin is pulled.

And is it just an impression of mine or is O'Pry's nose kinda asymmetric and a little more towards one side of his face?

Which could maybe explain why he has more pronounced epicanthal folds only in one eye, as the skin is pulled more towards one side than the other?
I feel he has epicanthal folds on both eyes but the flap of skin gets almost completely pulled on one side while it stays slightlyyyyy pronounced on the other

So what causes epicanthal folds? Why does O'Pry have very mild epicanthal folds?

 

[Magnum Opus]

Not topic related but I wanted to say that his mouth area looks very different in many pics, in this one the upper lip looks swollen.

 

[StrangerDanger]

In O'Pry's case they are so slight because his nose bridge is pulling the flap of skin I guess? Similar to when someone with more pronounced epicanthal folds pinches the skin around his nose bridge to see his medial canthus and lacrimal caruncle more?

I mean epicanthal folds come in varying degrees it all boils down how much excess soft tissue there is around that area that lacks support, it's genetic. As you can tell O'Pry has a very prominent nose bridge, more so than most people yet he has a slight one whilst others have none with lesser projected nasions, some people with already mild epicanthal folds would have none without the amount of projection he has whilst others would. There is no answers that fits all and its highly individual

So if an ethnic with a flat low rooted nose was to get nose bridge augmentation to get rid of epicanthal folds I guess the result would be similar to the kind O'Pry has? But you'd basically still have epicanthal folds, just that the flap of skin is pulled.

I dont get it, it's not digital it's not a 0 or 1, its not either you have it or you don't. There are many different ways it can express itself and whether the ethnics excess tissue reacts the same way to the surrounding forces as O'Prys I wouldnt know. The ethnic could augment his nasal bridge as much as realistically possible and still retain the folds, in another scenario the measure would completly get rid of them. You can even address it directly with a medial epicanthoplasty and have the excess tissue removed without even touching the nasal bridge, it all depends on the individual.

Why does O'Pry have very mild epicanthal folds?

O'Pry is part Irish aswell as Amerindian which would explain why he could be genetically predisposed to it, whilst not typical epicanthal folds are still frequent in Northern Europe (Russia, Scandinavia and Ireland especially) and the Amerindian speaks for itself

And is it just an impression of mine or is O'Pry's nose kinda asymmetric and a little more towards one side of his face?
Which could maybe explain why he has more pronounced epicanthal folds only in one eye, as the skin is pulled more towards one side than the other?
I feel he has epicanthal folds on both eyes but the flap of skin gets almost completely pulled on one side while it stays slightlyyyyy pronounced on the other

Yes, the asymmetry is probably the reason why he has a slight fold in one eye and not the other
In some shoots they are more visible

Also here is an interesting video

 

[Nochills]

Nah doubt it. I have gained a lot of weight since my leanest point and eyes look exactly the same.

 

[poopoohead]

I mean epicanthal folds come in varying degrees it all boils down how much excess soft tissue there is around that area that lacks support, it's genetic. As you can tell O'Pry has a very prominent nose bridge, more so than most people yet he has a slight one whilst others have none with lesser projected nasions, some people with already mild epicanthal folds would have none without the amount of projection he has whilst others would. There is no answers that fits all and its highly individual

I dont get it, it's not digital it's not a 0 or 1, its not either you have it or you don't. There are many different ways it can express itself and whether the ethnics excess tissue reacts the same way to the surrounding forces as O'Prys I wouldnt know. The ethnic could augment his nasal bridge as much as realistically possible and still retain the folds, in another scenario the measure would completly get rid of them. You can even address it directly with a medial epicanthoplasty and have the excess tissue removed without even touching the nasal bridge, it all depends on the individual.

O'Pry is part Irish aswell as Amerindian which would explain why he could be genetically predisposed to it, whilst not typical epicanthal folds are still frequent in Northern Europe (Russia, Scandinavia and Ireland especially) and the Amerindian speaks for itself

Yes, the asymmetry is probably the reason why he has a slight fold in one eye and not the other
In some shoots they are more visible

Also here is an interesting video

Yeah I have a decent fold on one of my eyes and the other doesn’t have them. Whenever I slightly pull my nose it disappears. Also when I raise my eyebrows it disappears as well because I have low set eyebrows and hooded eyes so probably my nose doesn’t have enough bone support for the fold to go away

 

[cendawan]

Soft tissue, its a folded layer of skin in true hooded eyes that doesn't go away no matter the bf%