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160cm
Laugh at my misery & Drop some advice
Face wise i have good genetics but
I’m fucking done being small and invisible.
I’ve made up my mind — I’m changing my body one way or another. I’m just stuck between two completely different paths and I need real high-IQ input before I pull the trigger.
Path 1: Twinkmaxx / Lean Physiquemax
Stay small. Cut hard to 8-10% bodyfat. Get the visible six-pack, tiny waist, prettyboy aesthetic. High-rep training, stairmaster, core vacuums — the whole twink routine from the recent thread. Keep the lean, compact, “cute but toned” look that some girls apparently like.
Path 2: Framemaxx / Hop on the stack
Run the exact cycle from illusion’s 1000th post thread — 500mg Testosterone Enanthate + 6-8iu HGH every day for 20+ weeks. Lean bulk to 165-175 lbs at 10-12% bodyfat. Build a real V-taper (wide shoulders, thick upper back, capped delts), then cut down while keeping the new muscle. Become the dense, muscular short guy that actually mogs instead of getting mogged.
I already know the studies (Sell et al. 2017, Pazhoohi 2019, Maisey 1999, Provost 2008). Frame, shoulder-to-hip ratio, and muscularity are massive predictors of attractiveness.
My current thinking:
Hopping on and framemaxxing feels like the higher ROI move by far. HGH should help with quality tissue, tendon health, and keeping the bulk somewhat clean. But I’m worried it’ll take too long and I’ll still look like a manlet at the end of it. The lean twink route is safer and faster… but it also feels like coping.
At 5’2 the real question is brutal — does building a dense, V-tapered frame actually save me from the heightpill, or do I just end up looking like a short bodybuilder that still gets mogged every day while the lean twinkmaxx route was the smarter play all along?”
Poll (reply with number + real reasoning):
1. Twinkmaxx lean — stay small, cut hard, prettyboy route
2. Framemaxx on the stack — 500mg Test + 6-8iu HGH, bulk then cut
3. Hybrid — run the cycle but stay in a controlled surplus for slower, leaner gains
160cm
Laugh at my misery & Drop some advice
Face wise i have good genetics but
I’m fucking done being small and invisible.
I’ve made up my mind — I’m changing my body one way or another. I’m just stuck between two completely different paths and I need real high-IQ input before I pull the trigger.
Path 1: Twinkmaxx / Lean Physiquemax
Stay small. Cut hard to 8-10% bodyfat. Get the visible six-pack, tiny waist, prettyboy aesthetic. High-rep training, stairmaster, core vacuums — the whole twink routine from the recent thread. Keep the lean, compact, “cute but toned” look that some girls apparently like.
Path 2: Framemaxx / Hop on the stack
Run the exact cycle from illusion’s 1000th post thread — 500mg Testosterone Enanthate + 6-8iu HGH every day for 20+ weeks. Lean bulk to 165-175 lbs at 10-12% bodyfat. Build a real V-taper (wide shoulders, thick upper back, capped delts), then cut down while keeping the new muscle. Become the dense, muscular short guy that actually mogs instead of getting mogged.
I already know the studies (Sell et al. 2017, Pazhoohi 2019, Maisey 1999, Provost 2008). Frame, shoulder-to-hip ratio, and muscularity are massive predictors of attractiveness.
My current thinking:
Hopping on and framemaxxing feels like the higher ROI move by far. HGH should help with quality tissue, tendon health, and keeping the bulk somewhat clean. But I’m worried it’ll take too long and I’ll still look like a manlet at the end of it. The lean twink route is safer and faster… but it also feels like coping.
At 5’2 the real question is brutal — does building a dense, V-tapered frame actually save me from the heightpill, or do I just end up looking like a short bodybuilder that still gets mogged every day while the lean twinkmaxx route was the smarter play all along?”
Poll (reply with number + real reasoning):
1. Twinkmaxx lean — stay small, cut hard, prettyboy route
2. Framemaxx on the stack — 500mg Test + 6-8iu HGH, bulk then cut
3. Hybrid — run the cycle but stay in a controlled surplus for slower, leaner gains
scrap what I said brother and get that LL first
