How are you supposed to be sociable when you’re ugly and ND?

[Prøphet]

Every time I try and leave my comfort zone I just get humiliated one way or another. Whether it’s someone making fun of me, mocking me, or seeing a picture taken of my atrocious face. Often times I sabotage myself by making some huge social blunder, probably because I never take the chance to practice being social so it’s a vicious cycle. I also get a physical adrenaline spike when I’m interacti ng with people becasue of so many past bad experiences

I can’t even stand looking in the mirror, and I’m supposed to go out in the world and show everyone that as a representation of myself? I don’t identify with myself at all. I didn’t used to be like this, but years of negative reinforcement molded me into a terra insociable weirdo

So to those who are in a similar situation, have you found a fix to get some momentum started when it comes to reintegrating with society?

 

[Elegant]

Don’t ever get up, keep grinding, keep hustling, shoot for your dreams.

 

[acm]

bro look at my new avi
rafa Noah spinning around

 

[Prøphet]

Don’t ever get up, keep grinding, keep hustling, shoot for your dreams.

Ohhhh brotharrrr

 

[nestivv]

 

[Prøphet]

Also I’ve tried alcohol and yes it works in the moment somewhat but then the next few days I end up acting 2x as ND

I’m so tired of this endless cope nigga if I wasn’t born with defects and bad genetics I would have confidence in myself and have an ounce of self esteem instead I see nothing in myself

 

[IHATEINDIANS]

Do you enjoy / need socializing?

I'm in exactly the same situation. Very ugly and I have terrible social skills. I'm personally rather introverted and never felt a need to put myself out much beyond my small friend group and talking online.

I'm fairly happy just being quiet and not trying to speak much as I often embarrass myself and being more open to a small group of friends who are similar to me. Of course, you get pressured by people into thinking you need to be some NT Chad who has a billion friends but even then your bonds become less deep and meaningful once you befriend so many people.

If you're an extrovert or being forced to socialize, I'm genuinely sorry for you and it's probably one of the hardest situations you can be in in modern life at least. But you have to realize the average NTfag is mega retarded and says stupid shit constantly. If you force yourself to speak despite your inhibitions and say stupid shit 3/10 timesbyou're still better off than the average guy.

 

[asdvek]

Try high meat

Goatis approved

 

[Prøphet]

Do you enjoy / need socializing?

I'm in exactly the same situation. Very ugly and I have terrible social skills. I'm personally rather introverted and never felt a need to put myself out much beyond my small friend group and talking online.

I'm fairly happy just being quiet and not trying to speak much as I often embarrass myself and being more open to a small group of friends who are similar to me. Of course, you get pressured by people into thinking you need to be some NT Chad who has a billion friends but even then your bonds become less deep and meaningful once you befriend so many people.

If you're an extrovert or being forced to socialize, I'm genuinely sorry for you and it's probably one of the hardest situations you can be in in modern life at least. But you have to realize the average NTfag is mega retarded and says stupid shit constantly. If you force yourself to speak despite your inhibitions and say stupid shit 3/10 timesbyou're still better off than the average guy.

No same I’m extremely introverted I just have trouble when I NEED to talk to someone to the point where I actively go out of my way to try and avoid it

All because I never got the chance to develop any social skills, I don’t even know how to carry a conversation without looking ND as hell, and the harder I try to mirror nts, the more uncanny I feel like my act is

 

[Prøphet]

Do you enjoy / need socializing?

I'm in exactly the same situation. Very ugly and I have terrible social skills. I'm personally rather introverted and never felt a need to put myself out much beyond my small friend group and talking online.

I'm fairly happy just being quiet and not trying to speak much as I often embarrass myself and being more open to a small group of friends who are similar to me. Of course, you get pressured by people into thinking you need to be some NT Chad who has a billion friends but even then your bonds become less deep and meaningful once you befriend so many people.

If you're an extrovert or being forced to socialize, I'm genuinely sorry for you and it's probably one of the hardest situations you can be in in modern life at least. But you have to realize the average NTfag is mega retarded and says stupid shit constantly. If you force yourself to speak despite your inhibitions and say stupid shit 3/10 timesbyou're still better off than the average guy.

Last part is true asf, low inhib is definitely the cure, I just have trouble putting myself in that state of mind, especially looking back on every past failure and every time I said the wrong thing

I feel like an actor when I have to socialize with people sometimes, so much effort just to try and fake someone Im not

 

[mlnmln]

if ur really ND, ur never gonna have a good social life

 

[Prøphet]

if ur really ND, ur never gonna have a good social life

I don’t expect a good social life as I am now, thats something I’ll pursue after I fix my face. I just want be at least passable though in the mean time, without always making mistakes or doing the wrong thing

 

[IHATEINDIANS]

No same I’m extremely introverted I just have trouble when I NEED to talk to someone to the point where I actively go out of my way to try and avoid it

All because I never got the chance to develop any social skills, I don’t even know how to carry a conversation without looking ND as hell, and the harder I try to mirror nts, the more uncanny I feel like my act is

Do you know what causes your poor social skills? Do you know how to respond, but think too much before you talk or can you genuinely not think of anything to say?

Some things are trainable and can be improved but most cannot. If you're naturally high inhib, and always have been, it's a genetic personality trait that can't really be changed past puberty.

But using high inhib as an example, while it will always feel somewhat like you're forcing yourself to say what you think, it's very trainable and eventually can get to the point it's somewhat close to slipping off the tongue like it is for NTs. This requires a lot of practice and probably embarassment, but you can actually change it if you try.

If you lock up in conversation and can't think of any words to say at all that's quite a bit worse, because you can't really fantasize over what someone might ask or say in every possible conversation. You can maybe predict most basic ones but you're gonna struggle in deeper conversation. Again, another mostly unchangeable trait.

So yeah it really depends. Likely won't ever be fully NT but you can get close if it's just high inhib, if it's really serious social anxiety or lack of ability to articulate it's substantially worse.

 

[Prøphet]

Do you know what causes your poor social skills? Do you know how to respond, but think too much before you talk or can you genuinely not think of anything to say?

Some things are trainable and can be improved but most cannot. If you're naturally high inhib, and always have been, it's a genetic personality trait that can't really be changed past puberty.

But using high inhib as an example, while it will always feel somewhat like you're forcing yourself to say what you think, it's very trainable and eventually can get to the point it's somewhat close to slipping off the tongue like it is for NTs. This requires a lot of practice and probably embarassment, but you can actually change it if you try.

If you lock up in conversation and can't think of any words to say at all that's quite a bit worse, because you can't really fantasize over what someone might ask or say in every possible conversation. You can maybe predict most basic ones but you're gonna struggle in deeper conversation. Again, another mostly unchangeable trait.

So yeah it really depends. Likely won't ever be fully NT but you can get close if it's just high inhib, if it's really serious social anxiety or lack of ability to articulate it's substantially worse.

Mine is a mix of both

Sometimes I think of what to say but then I get so filled with self doubt about my answer that I freeze up and end up saying something stupider

but also a lot of times I genuinely don’t know how to respond because I’m so out of practice and ND from isolating myself so much

I used to be a bit better at Larping NT and even was a top tier jestermaxxer, but it’s like a muscle I stopped working it out because of so much negative feedback and now it’s basically gone and I’m just the worst version of myself socially

But I could never get 100% NT, there’s always been at least one little thing off that I always miss and people hate it

My brain chemistry is beyond brutal fuck