How bad is my down growth? Marking good response solution

[mirinnnasal]

I’m Im confused cause in motion when I’m on snap looking at myself it doesn’t look bad but when taken as a photo with back camera which is without distortion I look very downgrown, planning djs with implants with raffani let me know, getting marpe and dame which expands both the lower and upper jaws before though, my moms helping me pay for that, what type of rotation does my case warrant,

 

[Ray0n]

I’m Im confused cause in motion when I’m on snap looking at myself it doesn’t look bad but when taken as a photo with back camera which is without distortion I look very downgrown, planning djs with implants with raffani let me know, getting marpe and dame which expands both the lower and upper jaws before though, my moms helping me pay for that, what type of rotation does my case warrant,


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it's not even that bad, + 5° of CCW maxillary rotation could literally fix it all

you have like the same downgrowth as this guy before his ascension

 

[ChudLarper_67]

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bro you got your mouth open in this pic and its even not that bad, dont worry about it

 

[thetruthnuke]

your down growth isnt bad-since your face doesn't seem super long, jawline is visible, ramus is good- bit of a recessed chin overall not bad down growth if u want when u get marpe look into reverse pull facemask

 

[mirinnnasal]

bro you got your mouth open in this pic and its even not that bad, dont worry about it

That was taken on snap camera facing me the other photo is what you would see in real life, from what I’ve head about lens distortion but here is a photo taken on my canon g 7x backward camera also, 6ft away correct way to take photos lmk, I think jaw angle implants would really ascend, along with some maxillary rotation, if I can get the implants same time as djs im definitely doing it

 

[ChudLarper_67]

That was taken on snap camera facing me the other photo is what you would see in real life, from what I’ve head about lens distortion but here is a photo taken on my canon g 7x backward camera also, 6ft away correct way to take photos lmk

not that bad, you got no ramus. if you're up for hardmaxxing getting ramus implants would be highest ROI for you, cheaper than a full on osteotomy.

 

[mirinnnasal]

it's not even that bad, + 5° of CCW maxillary rotation could literally fix it all

you have like the same downgrowth as this guy before his ascension

is out of the country going abroad bad for djs if I want this type of rotation, I was thinking of going to italy,

 

[mirinnnasal]

not that bad, you got no ramus. if you're up for hardmaxxing getting ramus implants would be highest ROI for you, cheaper than a full on osteotomy.
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understood but I could get them done at the same time with a good surgon many do implants along with djs, and I don’t wanna get implants before djs I think has to either be done after or same time, not to well versed on it but let me know, but the gonion implants is a need

 

[mirinnnasal]

it's not even that bad, + 5° of CCW maxillary rotation could literally fix it all

you have like the same downgrowth as this guy before his ascension

wait I know this dude, didn’t know he hardmaxxed, I think we a similar pheno, tbh I thought he was just a really good fraud, nice maxillary rotation would you say that’s around 5’ degrees

 

[Ray0n]

is out of the country going abroad bad for djs if I want this type of rotation, I was thinking of going to italy,

i have no idea man, only thing ik is that djs costs around 13k-25k in italy

wait I know this dude, didn’t know he hardmaxxed, I think we a similar pheno, tbh I thought he was just a really good fraud, nice maxillary rotation would you say that’s around 5’ degrees

he claims natty and i'd say that he got around 5° or a little more ccw rotation

i've seen other guys who got insane results by facepulling

 

[mirinnnasal]

i have no idea man, only thing ik is that djs costs around 13k-25k in italy

he claims natty and i'd say that he got around 5° or a little more ccw rotation

i've seen other guys who got insane results by facepulling

 

[Ray0n]

achievable with or without surgery

 

[mirinnnasal]

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achievable with or without surgery

much better morph appreciate it, this looks like, a djs with good advancement in the upper jaw, along with the lower but slightly less of an advancement, along with jaw angle implants and a rhino plast with some cartilage added to the bridge and to add projection only question i have is do you recommend i risk getting marpe and dame first which expands both upper and lower jaws, my mouth width is really narrow, and it would widen my smile, planning on getting composite bonding aswell, or no marpe

And this is my side rn back camera

 

[mirinnnasal]

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achievable with or without surgery

and is this a wrap around jaw angle implant, looks like my chin got better aswell, kinda like this

 

[mirinnnasal]

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achievable with or without surgery

and is this a wrap around jaw angle implant, looks like my chin got better aswell, kinda like this