How can I ascend (no hate please)

[welli2009]

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[Rira Reincarnated]

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[Planes]

what are u laughing at??? negative ptr classic

 

[Rira Reincarnated]

what are u laughing at??? negative ptr classic

rep me then pussy.

 

[Deleted member 414310]

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lowkey a trimax with a high cut lf1

 

[astatin]

You look decent

loose some weight and get more sleep

Your main flaws are the under eyes and the bloating

 

[jotunnr]

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Try to take these photos down as quick as possible. You don't want your pictures on some retarded incel forum

My advice for you is analyzing your own failos and looking for solutions within the forum, we're not going to spoonfeed you

Best of luck

 

[spust]

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*hate*

 

[astatin]

lowkey a trimax with a high cut lf1

Spamming buzzwords

 

[astatin]

Try to take these photos down as quick as possible. You don't want your pictures on some retarded incel forum

My advice for you is analyzing your own failos and looking for solutions within the forum, we're not going to spoonfeed you

Best of luck

Agreed, op should definently edit snd remove the pics..

 

[Planes]

rep me then pussy.

no LOL

 

[Deleted member 414310]

Spamming buzzwords

and what would your recommendation be?

 

[welli2009]

Agreed, op should definently edit snd remove the pics..

Am i that ugly? I was just hoping for advice

 

[welli2009]

and what would your recommendation be?

Probably reincarnation

 

[astatin]

Am i that ugly? I was just hoping for advice

no not at all, i don't find you ugly.

you will just regret posting your face on here later on, that's all.

 

[welli2009]

Try to take these photos down as quick as possible. You don't want your pictures on some retarded incel forum

My advice for you is analyzing your own failos and looking for solutions within the forum, we're not going to spoonfeed you

Best of luck

Is it that bad? Im only a teen whos trying to figure out. Why would you make fun of me. Crazy what looks does

 

[welli2009]

no not at all, i don't find you ugly.

you will just regret posting your face on here later on, that's all.

What you mean by later on. What is happening later on. You think anyone in reallife would find this? Also its to late now i cant delete them but ive posted more on here so yeah its to late. Second question you think i can still acend because im in puperty? Or is it over and i need to hardmax.

 

[astatin]

Is it that bad? Im only a teen whos trying to figure out. Why would you make fun of me. Crazy what looks does

it's a forum filled with raging incels lmao, that's just how it is..

people will tell you mean things for no reason, but you shouldn't let them bring you down

 

[astatin]

What you mean by later on. What is happening later on. You think anyone in reallife would find this? Also its to late now i cant delete them but ive posted more on here so yeah its to late. Second question you think i can still acend because im in puperty? Or is it over and i need to hardmax.

it's not over lmao

haven't even started, just focus on your diet, go to the gym, and that's it.

you shouldn't worry about looks this much during puberty, you can literally go from subhuman to htn by puberty alone

 

[midfacedeficient]

are your teeth tipped heavily outward?

 

[welli2009]

are your teeth tipped heavily outward?

Yes they are. But i dont know what to do about it. Heres some picture. So i hope itd good Quality i also have an overbite or overjet . But my dentists want to extract

 

[welli2009]

it's not over lmao

haven't even started, just focus on your diet, go to the gym, and that's it.

you shouldn't worry about looks this much during puberty, you can literally go from subhuman to htn by puberty alone

Hi so which diet can you recomend me should i eat in a calorie surplus or defecit. I usually just eat when im hungry and much protein thats how i do it. I also drink raw milk. Do you really think puperty is at my age 17 relevant. So do i change much at age 17 because since im 14 i havent changed much anymore only minimal. If you now say check your boneage i cant because i wanted to do that the doctors gave me a paper and my parents destroyed it and were angry they say its unhealthy

-yours welli

 

[midfacedeficient]

Yes they are. But i dont know what to do about it. Heres some picture. So i hope itd good Quality i also have an overbite or overjet . But my dentists want to extract

dont extract. u need more room in ur mouth so theyll fit properly. ideally u need the whole palate moved forward, and probably expanded, cant tell from the angle, and then they can tip the teeth back down and theyll fit in place. itll give u better facial proportions too

 

[polarpop]

you already posted the same exact thread

go take action instead of procrastinating

 

[welli2009]

dont extract. u need more room in ur mouth so theyll fit properly. ideally u need the whole palate moved forward, and probably expanded, cant tell from the angle, and then they can tip the teeth back down and theyll fit in place. itll give u better facial proportions too

I screenshotet your post if its okay for you. How are these things called and what do i have to tell my doctor. Also how much money does that all cost i have currently 500€

 

[astatin]

Hi so which diet can you recomend me should i eat in a calorie surplus or defecit. I usually just eat when im hungry and much protein thats how i do it. I also drink raw milk. Do you really think puperty is at my age 17 relevant. So do i change much at age 17 because since im 14 i havent changed much anymore only minimal. If you now say check your boneage i cant because i wanted to do that the doctors gave me a paper and my parents destroyed it and were angry they say its unhealthy

-yours welli

probably bad bone age, you should focus on a clean diet with alot of fibre and just loose some weight. raw milk doesn't do anything and i would avoid milk.

you should really fix your sleep or try under eyes serums

 

[welli2009]

probably bad bone age, you should focus on a clean diet with alot of fibre and just loose some weight. raw milk doesn't do anything and i would avoid milk.

you should really fix your sleep or try under eyes serums

Okay i will try and im so gratefull for your tips. What does bad boneage mean tho? Isnt there only older or younger boneage?

 

[astatin]

Okay i will try and im so gratefull for your tips. What does bad boneage mean tho? Isnt there only older or younger boneage?

yeah, it doesn't mean alot tho

 

[midfacedeficient]

I screenshotet your post if its okay for you. How are these things called and what do i have to tell my doctor. Also how much money does that all cost i have currently 500€

not gunna be enough. youre either going do have to do some form of palate expansion via an orthodontist, and then see a jaw surgeon to have a djs done. or just do a djs with a segmental lefort 1 if your palate only needs 4-6 or so mm of expansion. whichever of these you do you'll then need the orthodontist to correct the teeth after the djs

 

[welli2009]

not gunna be enough. youre either going do have to do some form of palate expansion via an orthodontist, and then see a jaw surgeon to have a djs done. or just do a djs with a segmental lefort 1 if your palate only needs 4-6 or so mm of expansion. whichever of these you do you'll then need the orthodontist to correct the teeth after the djs

Okay thank you i will do that. Also whats ur opinion on roids for acension?

-yours welli

 

[welli2009]

yeah, it doesn't mean alot tho

So what should i do to do the boneage or bones better? Roids?

 

[welli2009]

you already posted the same exact thread

go take action instead of procrastinating

But i dont know where to start and it seems like i cant go forward. It guenenlly feels like its over. But is it? Some say its over some say its not. Some say it ended some say it hasnt even started. Some say that is bad other say not. What to do. Im 17 years old what can i do abt that because my parents wont help me. Im sorry for the long text but yeah i just need someone who helps me.

-yours welli

 

[midfacedeficient]

Okay thank you i will do that. Also whats ur opinion on roids for acension?

-yours welli

i think if youre young enough that they'll do more positive things than just muscle growth then i can understand using them. if youre older i think anything other than 250ish test is gunna be overall negative. still not gunna concretely encourage them, just my opinion, and lots disagree with me, so dont take me as the voice of truth.

i do think everyone pretty much agrees on at least low dose reta year round though

if you go really hard on gear with your facial structure though, you personally will likely get screwed by the facial changes. you don't have strong enough bone structure there to help any added weight or drooping that you'd run in to. and your hairs a good feature of yours, wouldn't wanna throw that out the window, so have a good preventative measure if you do anything

 

[welli2009]

i think if youre young enough that they'll do more positive things than just muscle growth then i can understand using them. if youre older i think anything other than 250ish test is gunna be overall negative. still not gunna concretely encourage them, just my opinion, and lots disagree with me, so dont take me as the voice of truth.

i do think everyone pretty much agrees on at least low dose reta year round though

if you go really hard on gear with your facial structure though, you personally will likely get screwed by the facial changes. you don't have strong enough bone structure there to help any added weight or drooping that you'd run in to. and your hairs a good feature of yours, wouldn't wanna throw that out the window, so have a good preventative measure if you do anything

Thanks man i really really apreciatte your long text. Im 17 years old so would that be to late or the right age to start. Also why would my hear get damaged from it? Also whats ur opinion on peptides instead of roids. They can even be healthy and dont destroy like naturall hormones. Theyre more mild of course and not as efficent. But people like bojack used them too. So what would be your overall advice for me be? Should i save my money for otrodonthics and surgerys or other stuff. I mean comon im 17 years old it cant be the end already right?.... right????

-yours welli

 

[midfacedeficient]

Thanks man i really really apreciatte your long text. Im 17 years old so would that be to late or the right age to start.

once you can afford it

Also why would my hear get damaged from it? Also whats ur opinion on peptides instead of roids. They can even be healthy and dont destroy like naturall hormones. Theyre more mild of course and not as efficent. But people like bojack used them too.

not really gunna do much for muscle growth

So what would be your overall advice for me be? Should i save my money for otrodonthics and surgerys or other stuff.

probably surgeries and ortho

I mean comon im 17 years old it cant be the end already right?.... right????

nah. i had it way worse than you and surgeries helped a ton. either way you're normal looking enough to live a normal life

 

[isba816]

Try to take these photos down as quick as possible. You don't want your pictures on some retarded incel forum

My advice for you is analyzing your own failos and looking for solutions within the forum, we're not going to spoonfeed you

Best of luck

Why shouldnt you post photos of yourself?

 

[ohhohh]

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To ascend facially, if i was u i would first fix ur eyebrows, they r not symmetrical, they r not fully filled in(lacking hair). I wld also dye them darker for contrast . U have slight undereyes so maybe sleeping more, undereye cream, etc. besides that there’s rlly not much else that is kind of just ur face. U look skinny so clearly u r bloated / maybe need to fix diet or something. I also dont know how young u r to see how far along in puberty u, which would help. Also i feel ur haircut cld be better. Again tho, u know urself more than i ever will. U know / can see ur flaws way better than i can. For ur small neck, u shld train ur neck also.

 

[witedudzz]

dude, your orthodontics are fucked, get braces. shred down so you can actually see your bones and please accept the fact you'll never be attractive. you can get better but not good enough. Jus look at all the threads on various topics. Your main flaws are lack of bones in general, especially around the eyes (they're the complete opp of deepset) and lack of forward growth (you'll be needing surgery to fix that). your potential is capped by your bone structure. follow the softmax and fraud tips. you'll get there with enough effort money and luck

 

[welli2009]

To ascend facially, if i was u i would first fix ur eyebrows, they r not symmetrical, they r not fully filled in(lacking hair). I wld also dye them darker for contrast . U have slight undereyes so maybe sleeping more, undereye cream, etc. besides that there’s rlly not much else that is kind of just ur face. U look skinny so clearly u r bloated / maybe need to fix diet or something. I also dont know how young u r to see how far along in puberty u, which would help. Also i feel ur haircut cld be better. Again tho, u know urself more than i ever will. U know / can see ur flaws way better than i can. For ur small neck, u shld train ur neck also.

thanbks man i really apprecitae your tips and i will work on them. so my biggest flaws are my bones. ias someone said i have exactly the oposite of deepset eyes because of around eyearea bone lack but yeah nothing much i can do about. everyone says you cant grow boones at my age. im 17 years old because you asked. so question is it over for me?

-yours welli

 

[welli2009]

dude, your orthodontics are fucked, get braces. shred down so you can actually see your bones and please accept the fact you'll never be attractive. you can get better but not good enough. Jus look at all the threads on various topics. Your main flaws are lack of bones in general, especially around the eyes (they're the complete opp of deepset) and lack of forward growth (you'll be needing surgery to fix that). your potential is capped by your bone structure. follow the softmax and fraud tips. you'll get there with enough effort money and luck

alright man. is it really over for my bones? like nothing i could do to grwo them? brutal. even tho thanks for the honest words i will keep up the work until im there. btw which psl am i rn and whats my max psl naturally with ssoftmax?

 

[ohhohh]

thanbks man i really apprecitae your tips and i will work on them. so my biggest flaws are my bones. ias someone said i have exactly the oposite of deepset eyes because of around eyearea bone lack but yeah nothing much i can do about. everyone says you cant grow boones at my age. im 17 years old because you asked. so question is it over for me?

-yours welli

Yeah i didnt say anything abt ur bones bc i dont know ur age. First off, everyone who is saying this shit does not know what they r talking about. Yes u cld use orthodontics but ur 17, i dont know what stage ur in pubery. Also ur not ugly like ur not super handsome ofc but ur not ugly so that’s another thing. If i was u i wld see what u look like at low body fat percentage (like a visible six pack) if u have cheek bones or anything. U cant grow bones but u can hop on roids which wld rlly ascend u facially. There’s also the orthodontic route of expansion, MSE, etc. but again, this can only be said based on you. IE -> do u mouth breahte, sleep with ur mouth closed or open, can u fit ur tongue on roof of mouth comfortably? All questions such as these. Besides that, based on generic things of all i can tell from these two pictures, is ur skinny but ur bloated. So before u even say anything abt bones, get to a low percent body fat to see what u look like, clearly fix ur diet, i wld also train ur neck, eyebrow shit, etc. then at 18 decide if u need to go orthodontic route or roids. Orthodontic route also wont be cheap bc u have no medical need for it most likely. Anyways yeah, good luck. Don’t do anything stupid. And also be careful bc orthodontic can also become too wide of a face

 

[bricex22]

What you mean by later on. What is happening later on. You think anyone in reallife would find this? Also its to late now i cant delete them but ive posted more on here so yeah its to late. Second question you think i can still acend because im in puperty? Or is it over and i need to hardmax.

dont let anyone bring u down lol. every1 on here will js end up making fun of you, also your in puberty, so you will naturally grow, but theres things you can do to benefit you while your still in puberty.