how can I fix my eyebags and dark circles

[ijustwannabeprety]

i think I have them because of my college deficiency and Ik that the bones aren't the problem cuz I didn't had any dark circles or eyebags a few years ago so it has to be my sleep and collagen right? what else could it be and how can I fix it

 

[pajjeetslayer]

Fat grafts

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

@copercel123

 

[Сигма Бой]

Row meet.

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

@chadisbeingmade @eternalcoper @KT-34

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

@Zeekie @Orthognathic

 

[eternalcoper]

idk im an offtopic poster
@It'snotover @gookcelriceR @isegrim314 @CEO

 

[Psocho]

you can’t,start frauding with gay concealer

 

[StellaFanboy]

remove all stress from your life, get in the sun, get natural raw animal foods

 

[copercel123]

View attachment 3778165i think I have them because of my college deficiency and Ik that the bones aren't the problem cuz I didn't had any dark circles or eyebags a few years ago so it has to be my sleep and collagen right? what else could it be and how can I fix it

there’s no 100% way of getting rid of it but ghk cu, microneedling and vitamin c could be it.

 

[Zeekie]

View attachment 3778165i think I have them because of my college decency and I'm that the bones aren't the problem cuz I didn't had any dark circles or eyebags a few years ago so it has to be my sleep and collagen right? what else could it be and how can I fix it

Sleep bags have like 10 different potential causes, so until you try to address them all and diagnose what's causing your issue it's pretty hard to fix them. They say that to cure a disease, you have to diagnose it first.

- Nutrition: Basic, are you meeting 100% of your nutritional intake at the very least most days?
- Sleep: Are you sleeping 7.5 to 9 hours? Are you waking up and going to bed around the same times? Do you stop eating at the very least 1 hour before bed?
- Fitness: Are you exercising? Seeing the sun? Doing some cardio? - This is probably not the cause, but who knows


- Fat: If you believe you're fine in all of the above, then you probably just like support in this area due to fat. Obviously fat grafting is the solution.
- Lack of bone support: Alternatively, you may also lack under eye support. The solution is an infraobirtal rim implant, but this is only if you actually have hollowing of this area, it could botch you very easily if you don't.
- Melanin: Some people due to genetics or sun exposure simply produce more melanin in certain areas of their body... Are you wearing sunscreen daily? If you are, then it's likely just your genetics and blood vessels fucking with, caffeine serum and a vitamin C serum. If none of these work, and you really think it's neither orbital support nor fat, then maybe hydroquinone could help, although I'm unsure how safe it is to put under the eyes.

 

[Psocho]

remove all stress from your life, get in the sun, get natural raw animal foods

just eat raw meat brah!



Not going to help hide his recessed maxilla.

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

just eat raw meat brah!



Not going to help hide his recessed maxilla.

what can I do for my recessed maxilla

 

[eternalcoper]

what can I do for my recessed maxilla

oooof buddy

 

[flatcheck213]

there’s no 100% way of getting rid of it but ghk cu, microneedling and vitamin c could be it.

co2 laser
fat grafts

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

Sleep bags have like 10 different potential causes, so until you try to address them all and diagnose what's causing your issue it's pretty hard to fix them. They say that to cure a disease, you have to diagnose it first.

- Nutrition: Basic, are you meeting 100% of your nutritional intake at the very least most days?
- Sleep: Are you sleeping 7.5 to 9 hours? Are you waking up and going to bed around the same times? Do you stop eating at the very least 1 hour before bed?
- Fitness: Are you exercising? Seeing the sun? Doing some cardio? - This is probably not the cause, but who knows


- Fat: If you believe you're fine in all of the above, then you probably just like support in this area due to fat. Obviously fat grafting is the solution.
- Lack of bone support: Alternatively, you may also lack under eye support. The solution is an infraobirtal rim implant, but this is only if you actually have hollowing of this area, it could botch you very easily if you don't.
- Melanin: Some people due to genetics or sun exposure simply produce more melanin in certain areas of their body... Are you wearing sunscreen daily? If you are, then it's likely just your genetics and blood vessels fucking with, caffeine serum and a vitamin C serum. If none of these work, and you really think it's neither orbital support nor fat, then maybe hydroquinone could help, although I'm unsure how safe it is to put under the eyes.

idk if I have hollowing in my eye area what'd u think I have a photo attached to this post

 

[copercel123]

co2 laser
fat grafts

Co2 laser isn’t a good option since it also cause skin thinning and maybe fat loss so it can get worse.

I’m pretty sure he asked about softmaxxes so fat grafts aren’t an option

 

[eternalcoper]

what can I do for my recessed maxilla

you can't change a recessed bone naturally

 

[flatcheck213]

Co2 laser isn’t a good option since it also cause skin thinning and maybe fat loss so it can get worse.

I’m pretty sure he asked about softmaxxes so fat grafts aren’t an option

oh yeah
with softmaxxes you can't fix it

 

[copercel123]

oh yeah
with softmaxxes you can't fix it

Yeah but you can try I mean — ghk cu and derma rolling is a good bet.

Tbh I would just give up on trying to fix dark circles via siftmaxxing and go straight to frauding it with concealer. Work great and no down sides.

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

you can't change a recessed bone naturally

brah ik that, can mse fix it??

 

[copercel123]

brah ik that, can mse fix it??

Yeah

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

Yeah

how can I convince an orthodontist to give me mse

 

[copercel123]

how can I convince an orthodontist to give me mse

You can’t just “convince” him if you’re under 18.

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

You can’t just “convince” him if you’re under 18.

no I'm going to get it when I'm around 19

 

[Zeekie]

idk if I have hollowing in my eye area what'd u think I have a photo attached to this post

It's likely just lack of fat in the area, but without seeing a profile view of your eye area, I really can't tell what is it

 

[flatcheck213]

Yeah

how is it so

 

[rare.zgvvvv]

View attachment 3778165i think I have them because of my college deficiency and Ik that the bones aren't the problem cuz I didn't had any dark circles or eyebags a few years ago so it has to be my sleep and collagen right? what else could it be and how can I fix it

eye serum

 

[copercel123]

how is it so

Mse expansion drives lateral and anterior movement of the maxilla and zygos. That reshapes the orbital rim and increases structural support under the eyes

 

[Zeekie]

what can I do for my recessed maxilla

At 19? Surgery.

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

At 19? Surgery.

yeah why it's just mse

 

[Zeekie]

yeah why it's just mse

Well to begin with MSE really fix your recessed maxilla, that's an issue in the horizontal plane of your face (meaning front to back), an MSE device works in the transverse plane (meaning expander left to right). An MSE device will have very tiny effects on your horizontal plane and therefore maxillary recession, the only real solution for this is jaw surgery.

You probably don't even need MSE unless your palate is clinally narrow.

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

Well to begin with MSE really fix your recessed maxilla, that's an issue in the horizontal plane of your face (meaning front to back), an MSE device works in the transverse plane (meaning expander left to right). An MSE device will have very tiny effects on your horizontal plane and therefore maxillary recession, the only real solution for this is jaw surgery.

You probably don't even need MSE unless your palate is clinally narrow.

it's really narrow but idk if it's clinically narrow so I'll get it checked out tho and what jaw surgery are u talking about?

 

[Zeekie]

it's really narrow but idk if it's clinically narrow so I'll get it checked out tho and what jaw surgery are u talking about?

Probably Le Fort I advancement, but only a maxillofacial surgeon will really know. First I suggest you go talk with an orthodontist and ask about your concerns, generally if your tongue fits in your maxilla, you have no crowding of the teeth, and you can speak fine then you don't have a clinically recessed maxilla and if your teeth are already fine, then it could fuck you up more than it could help.

Then get a consultation with a maxillofacial surgeon and ask him what procedures would be ideal for your issue, it's likely going to be Le Fort I, but that's for a medical professional to figure out.

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

Probably Le Fort I advancement, but only a maxillofacial surgeon will really know. First I suggest you go talk with an orthodontist and ask about your concerns, generally if your tongue fits in your maxilla, you have no crowding of the teeth, and you can speak fine then you don't have a clinically recessed maxilla and if your teeth are already fine, then it could fuck you up more than it could help.

Then get a consultation with a maxillofacial surgeon and ask him what procedures would be ideal for your issue, it's likely going to be Le Fort I, but that's for a medical professional to figure out.

tbh I don't wanna get any of these surgeries like lefort 1, bimax and stuff the only surgeries I'm gonna get is forehead reduction, nose job, infraobirtal rim implant etc. and am i fucked cuz I just checked my toumge doesn't fit in my maxilla but my teeths are fine cuz I had braces

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

Probably Le Fort I advancement, but only a maxillofacial surgeon will really know. First I suggest you go talk with an orthodontist and ask about your concerns, generally if your tongue fits in your maxilla, you have no crowding of the teeth, and you can speak fine then you don't have a clinically recessed maxilla and if your teeth are already fine, then it could fuck you up more than it could help.

Then get a consultation with a maxillofacial surgeon and ask him what procedures would be ideal for your issue, it's likely going to be Le Fort I, but that's for a medical professional to figure out.

????

 

[Zeekie]

tbh I don't wanna get any of these surgeries like lefort 1, bimax and stuff the only surgeries I'm gonna get is forehead reduction, nose job, infraobirtal rim implant etc. and am i fucked cuz I just checked my toumge doesn't fit in my maxilla but my teeths are fine cuz I had braces

Well I mean I really have no say in what you do, if you don't want to go through with jaw surgery then go for it. Also, again, infraorbital implants are very dangerous, not in the sense that they could kill you, but in the sense that they can make you look very bad if you don't need them, so make sure you actually have infraorbital hollowing and that it is significant, if it isn't then just get fat grafting, way cheaper and faster.

But really, you're splitting hairs here, no one in this forum has the answers you're looking for or can diagnose you, for that you are going to have to go talk to an actual professional in the area. The best we can do is assume what your issue is and tell you what procedures could function, but that's just speculation, not real advice.

 

[7arely.eroz]

there’s no 100% way of getting rid of it but ghk cu, microneedling and vitamin c could be it.

Ghk cu for the bags specifically?

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

Well I mean I really have no say in what you do, if you don't want to go through with jaw surgery then go for it. Also, again, infraorbital implants are very dangerous, not in the sense that they could kill you, but in the sense that they can make you look very bad if you don't need them, so make sure you actually have infraorbital hollowing and that it is significant, if it isn't then just get fat grafting, way cheaper and faster.

But really, you're splitting hairs here, no one in this forum has the answers you're looking for or can diagnose you, for that you are going to have to go talk to an actual professional in the area. The best we can do is assume what your issue is and tell you what procedures could function, but that's just speculation, not real advice.

okayy thank you for replying

 

[copercel123]

Ghk cu for the bags specifically?

Yes

 

[It'snotover]

tbh I don't wanna get any of these surgeries like lefort 1, bimax and stuff the only surgeries I'm gonna get is forehead reduction, nose job, infraobirtal rim implant etc. and am i fucked cuz I just checked my toumge doesn't fit in my maxilla but my teeths are fine cuz I had braces

Lefort 1 won't fix dark circles. Don't fall for the memes of this site. Neither will infraorbital implants... if your infraorbitals are recessed your lower eyeball should bulge out in side profile and possibly have scleral show. If you don’t have these, you wouldn't benefit from implants but from fat grafting, it looks like it's a fat pad issue in your case. So only fat grafts will work

idk im an offtopic poster
@It'snotover @gookcelriceR @isegrim314 @CEO

Of course you don't know. You just put pretty make up over them.

 

[7arely.eroz]

Yes

What about fat grafts?

 

[copercel123]

What about fat grafts?

Great aswell. Best solution atm

 

[jockidc120610]

@chadisbeingmade @eternalcoper @KT-34

i was abotut to tell u but u didnt tag me

 

[Orthognathic]

@Zeekie @Orthognathic

Looks to be discoloration rather than actual bags caused by weak collagen. Fix your sleep and see if it resolves

 

[ijustwannabeprety]

i was abotut to tell u but u didnt tag me

@jockidc120610

 

[injecting]

just to tell you. its 100% your bones and fat distribution. I know a chad who sleeps 4 hours a day and have 0 eyebags and perfect zygos and infra orbitals. OVER