How can I get a palate expander if my both my mom and ortho tells it’s not needed

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I can’t fucking take this anymore I just want a wider palate cause it genuinely messes with my looks and my life now everyone keeps telling me it’s unnecessary what the fuck do I even do now:feelswah:
 
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why not
So many atractive people with wide palates and smiles.
Example: angelina Jolie, Josh Mcgregor. Both have 50mm +palate, specially Mcgregor
And Henry cavill has a narrow one with a 6 tooth smile and mogs the whole forum
 
And Henry cavill has a narrow one with a 6 tooth smile and mogs the whole forum
Yes but Who cares, he has ideal fWHR and I dont, Ill go from 1.75FWHR to 1.8 easily with a wider palate and 10 teeth smile easily .
Wide palate is a very dimorphic feature
 
Yes but Who cares, he has ideal fWHR and I dont, Ill go from 1.75FWHR to 1.8 easily with a wider palate and 10 teeth smile easily .
Wide palate is a very dimorphic feature
Can you properly fit your tongue on your palate + fwhr is not a very important ratio
 
Btw im not buying any palate expander ,Ive been doing thumbpulling for 2 months and my palate has widen 2mm and my maxilla is slightly wider
How do you know it's not molar tipping or you are measuring incorrectly?
@pfl @druiglooksmaxer @sigmamogger @eternalcoper @Loruki
 
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How do you know it's not molar tipping or you are measuring incorrectly?
@pfl @druiglooksmaxer @sigmamogger @eternalcoper @Loruki
Just smile like a retarded 24 hours and you have Rodrigo Guirao palato Lil bro, this or the Joker method with a knife (tdk reference)
 
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No, because it only create a big failo when it is extreme (it becomes a failo faster on the wider side)
Midface ratio is more important
I havent seen nearly anyone with a mouth TOO wide plus my mouth doesnt even look wide at all at the moment, not at all
 
You applie 12N force at your palate for 15 minutes a day while with a palate expander, 1-3N
Yes, which doesn't matter because it won't stimulate bone growth/remodeling. That's why orthodontists, for example, always tell their patients to wear their elastics otherwise the teeth shift back to their previous position.
 
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Yes, which doesn't matter because it won't stimulate bone growth/remodeling. That's why orthodontists, for example, always tell their patients to wear their elastics otherwise the teeth shift back to their previous position.
I actually dont know to believe because both points make sense to me, I Will keep doing It for some months and Ill see if something changes
 
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Angle fraud. His IPA angle video didn't help either. He tilts his head slightly, showing is his other eyebrow to fraud a better anteface.
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can you tell me how is this angle frauding?
 
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View attachment 3665377View attachment 3665378can you tell me how is this angle frauding?
Well, 1.75 to 1.98 is lowk ridiculous change. His head rotation is not the same. I need to get home so I can download this to my laptop and measure it.
Also camera position. Look at the first photo. His camera is below his head which distorts measurements - your face will look narrower when the mirror picture is taken by a camera below your head.
 
Also camera position. Look at the first photo. His camera is below his head which distorts measurements - your face will look narrower when the mirror picture is taken by a camera below your head.
Yeah but you cannot cope saying that this is completely angle fraud, there is some very visible changes on his bone structure
 
Still if he want a wider maxilla he would need 5mm more, I have a 48mm intermolar and I would benefit from a bit of expansion
alot of models have a average or below average palate, henry caville + jordan barrett
 
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