how can someone become more nt ?

[sahmong.psl]

Im 6'3 and i feel like im above average but im very nd, and its so hard for me to socialize. Didnt have a gf in years and all bcus im always stuck into the talking stage and they always ghost me at the end. i keep trying but it always end up beeing the girl that ghost me. Icl im pretty alone and i cannot do shi abt it. Wish i was a bit more nt sometimes. if someone has advice on how to talk to ppl, id be glad to receive them

 

[weluvpikachu]

Start hanging around people who are considered more nt, who socialize a lot and go out frequently. By doing so, you’ll slowly be included into their out goings, and you’ll also learn “normal” habits which will help you fit in more.

 

[taintedjoke]

If girls constantly ghost you and you can attract them then maybe you need to spend more time in understanding the female/male dynamics. Try and analyze and what point they ghost you and why, then find out what to do instead. If you have chats or can rewind the situations before it ended in your head that should be easy to do.

 

[Hexmask]

Practice, exposure, and learning to observe other charismatic people. You can do it.

 

[rraymond]

Start hanging around people who are considered more nt, who socialize a lot and go out frequently. By doing so, you’ll slowly be included into their out goings, and you’ll also learn “normal” habits which will help you fit in more.

that's the thing tho when ur nd it's very difficult to just "hang out with people"
i hang out with a group in school mainly cuz my best friend does too and i just prefer them to the rest of the year, they're all NT asf tho.
but even with them i don't really get acknowledged i just keep quiet follow them around and talk with my friend most of the time. dont talk to any of them or any of my classmates outside of school.
in my whole time in secondary school ive never gotten invited somewhere outside of school so im definitely not included in any outgoings

it's such a curse ngl

 

[sahmong.psl]

that's the thing tho when ur nd it's very difficult to just "hang out with people"
i hang out with a group in school mainly cuz my best friend does too and i just prefer them to the rest of the year, they're all NT asf tho.
but even with them i don't really get acknowledged i just keep quiet follow them around and talk with my friend most of the time. dont talk to any of them or any of my classmates outside of school.
in my whole time in secondary school ive never gotten invited somewhere outside of school so im definitely not included in any outgoings

it's such a curse ngl

So real, sometimes they invite me to parties but i cannot even socialize i just stay behind my friend while he talks with his other friends. And its mostly guys so no girls for me

 

[rraymond]

So real, sometimes they invite me to parties but i cannot even socialize i just stay behind my friend while he talks with his other friends. And its mostly guys so no girls for me

for real man something that often happens to me is that if im walking with one of my few close friends in school we will walk past classmates who will greet them while i get completely ignored
every social interaction i have i feel is a failure and i overthink every one

 

[sahmong.psl]

for real man something that often happens to me is that if im walking with one of my few close friends in school we will walk past classmates who will greet them while i get completely ignored
every social interaction i have i feel is a failure and i overthink every one

Thats fckn relatable, despite ppl telling im handsome, htn or wtv im easily forgettable because i dont the charisma that nt ppl have. And even when i try to talk or joke it always end up awkward or my friend mocks my "ndness". Its hell. The only method i found for talking to girls is online but most of them foids genuinely are a pain in the ass

 

[rraymond]

Thats fckn relatable, despite ppl telling im handsome, htn or wtv im easily forgettable because i dont the charisma that nt ppl have. And even when i try to talk or joke it always end up awkward or my friend mocks my "ndness". Its hell. The only method i found for talking to girls is online but most of them foids genuinely are a pain in the ass

fr man i relate 100%

 

[xgqd]

just wait until the “nd” buzzword trend dies out and then u dont have to pretend to be “nd” to fit in

 

[iceturtles]

Exposure therapy, just go talk to randos

 

[sahmong.psl]

just wait until the “nd” buzzword trend dies out and then u dont have to pretend to be “nd” to fit in

Neurodivergent means i cannot fit in with ppl and i have a hard time socializing, what are u talking abt.

 

[xgqd]

Neurodivergent means i cannot fit in with ppl and i have a hard time socializing, what are u talking abt.

yeah thanks for the subpar explanation. i know what it means, and 90% of tiktok trendhopper org accounts posting about “clav” and “blasting ghkcu” cant all be neurodivergent. its clearly a buzzword because kids think their cool for being different

 

[taintedjoke]

Neurodivergent means i cannot fit in with ppl and i have a hard time socializing, what are u talking abt.

I think you can even apply many jokes from the forum here into real life. Being funny irl is not really a different world, you just need to have a somewhat decent knowledge on topics that NT people are into and then use the same trolling way you would use here. Gym for example is a very easy thing to have in common, you can even have dates there which is strategically smart because you have high test there and are in a familiar place. The more you focus on your training instead of the bitch the better even lol. You can also just ask people things and once you find something they like they can yap for hours, because people love talking about themselves and give less of a fuck of you than you think.

the roadblock of thinking you're ND is also very counterproductive, you shouldn't see it as a disadvantage. If it's needed, you can also think of them as normies being lower than you, because they're NT. Now is that morally good? Probably not. But will anyone know?

You probably have a few friends that you speak very normal with, just try to apply that type of character on other people aswell, and one thing I started applying is really just saying what I think.

Like literally, only remembering things from people they mentioned a while ago can really make them like you, you just have to make them feel like YOU care about THEM. Don't try to impress them with your interesting character or whatever. Have a few hobbies you claim to have that are interesting and that will be enough. You could call this larping but bruv better to larp than to isolate yourself in a room the wholetime, the extend doens't have to be too obvious. Say you play chess or some random shit, even tho you only know the basics.

I know this is pretty chaotic rn but I'm just writing out everyhing I think might help you

 

[uknown slayerrr]

Im 6'3 and i feel like im above average but im very nd, and its so hard for me to socialize. Didnt have a gf in years and all bcus im always stuck into the talking stage and they always ghost me at the end. i keep trying but it always end up beeing the girl that ghost me. Icl im pretty alone and i cannot do shi abt it. Wish i was a bit more nt sometimes. if someone has advice on how to talk to ppl, id be glad to receive them

it doesnt matter if u are ugly or not during talking stage never show interest and u are good when u show em that u care they will most likely leave u

 

[taintedjoke]

it doesnt matter if u are ugly or not during talking stage never show interest and u are good when u show em that u care they will most likely leave u

It's a bit more nuanced than that. But certainly don't overly commit and show interest, never seem desperate. Try to push and pull and kind of mirror her level of interest, but substract a few percentages.

Simplified example:
She says heyyy
you say heyy


When you act like she's your everything she will think/know she's your only bitch at the moment, she has to feel like you could instantly swap her with someone better. Because scarcity is what gives the man his value.

 

[uknown slayerrr]

It's a bit more nuanced than that. But certainly don't overly commit and show interest, never seem desperate. Try to push and pull and kind of mirror her level of interest, but substract a few percentages.

Simplified example:
She says heyyy
you say heyy


When you act like she's your everything she will think/know she's your only bitch at the moment, she has to feel like you could instantly swap her with someone better. Because scarcity is what gives the man his value.

it aint even abt love anymore u just want to mog and dont feel inferior to others

 

[taintedjoke]

it aint even abt love anymore u just want to mog and dont feel inferior to others

bruh I think real love is just able to happen when you are like top mogger. High status, looks, abilities, iq and all that.

I feel like love is just a trap.
Because once you actually love her (more than she loves you), you automatically turn into a bitch.

Because women will always naturally tend to test and manipulate you into becoming weaker.
She will ask you to work less, go less often to the gym, talk more to her, start random arguments.

In a nutshell, she will turn you into a pussy if you act according to what she says she wants: They say they want X and they respond to Y,

There are countless other examples.

So my theory is that love is just able to happen when either she is not manipulative (whis is imo really rare)
Or there is a huge disparity in attraction. For example Chad dating Ltb.
Of course she will not leave him.

I don't know maybe that's a pretty fucked up viewpoint but my experiences until now have led to that conlusion

 

[uknown slayerrr]

bruh I think real love is just able to happen when you are like top mogger. High status, looks, abilities, iq and all that.

I feel like love is just a trap.
Because once you actually love her (more than she loves you), you automatically turn into a bitch.

Because women will always naturally tend to test and manipulate you into becoming weaker.
She will ask you to work less, go less often to the gym, talk more to her, start random arguments.

In a nutshell, she will turn you into a pussy if you act according to what she says she wants: They say they want X and they respond to Y,

There are countless other examples.

So my theory is that love is just able to happen when either she is not manipulative (whis is imo really rare)
Or there is a huge disparity in attraction. For example Chad dating Ltb.
Of course she will not leave him.

I don't know maybe that's a pretty fucked up viewpoint but my experiences until now have led to that conlusion

ts so relatable that bitch will eventually cheat on ur ass instead cheat on her so she doesnt

 

[taintedjoke]

ts so relatable that bitch will eventually cheat on ur ass instead cheat on her so she doesnt

yeah I have a good plan.

When you date multiple girls at once, you don't even have to act as if you have options. They will like you more because they want to convince you to take her as your main chick.

But never directly say you got other girls, just let it be undercover, she will know.

That way I will not only gain massive experience in a short time span, but also have a higher chance of slaying. Really just a numbers game.

Also, I will actually be busy and don't have the urge to reply to her, because I got enough shit going on already. So I'm really indirectly doing everything right without having to think about.

W plan?

 

[uknown slayerrr]

yeah I have a good plan.

When you date multiple girls at once, you don't even have to act as if you have options. They will like you more because they want to convince you to take her as your main chick.

But never directly say you got other girls, just let it be undercover, she will know.

That way I will not only gain massive experience in a short time span, but also have a higher chance of slaying. Really just a numbers game.

Also, I will actually be busy and don't have the urge to reply to her, because I got enough shit going on already. So I'm really indirectly doing everything right without having to think about.

W plan?

ts is so peak

 

[sahmong.psl]

yeah thanks for the subpar explanation. i know what it means, and 90% of tiktok trendhopper org accounts posting about “clav” and “blasting ghkcu” cant all be neurodivergent. its clearly a buzzword because kids think their cool for being different

Not everyone is clav fan or wtv, think the best. Im neurodivergent because my therapist told that to me also. And being nd isnt cool

 

[weluvpikachu]

that's the thing tho when ur nd it's very difficult to just "hang out with people"
i hang out with a group in school mainly cuz my best friend does too and i just prefer them to the rest of the year, they're all NT asf tho.
but even with them i don't really get acknowledged i just keep quiet follow them around and talk with my friend most of the time. dont talk to any of them or any of my classmates outside of school.
in my whole time in secondary school ive never gotten invited somewhere outside of school so im definitely not included in any outgoings

it's such a curse ngl

dw trust i feel you, im definitely not super nd but i am to a certain point. I used to be ignored by my more popular “friends” until i started jestering around more . But tbh if they still don’t invite u anywhere, maybe they’re more of the problem than u. Make sure to try your best to have little interactions with people here and there so they think you chill, even though im pretty weird most people in my school think im chill.

 

[rraymond]

yea man thank u, i am diagnosed autism and adhd (and dyspraxia less related) so for me i really struggle with these things. i'm just quiet in school as i've kinda been conditioned to just avoid social interactions with fear of rejection or fear of being judged / ignored. as a autist its hard for me to fully capture and replicate nt humour aswell as other communication skills, so i guess im just seen as an npc or just a strange antisocial guy. i try get the most social interaction i can but its so hard for me, i dont know how to talk to new people or make friends or contribute to conversations so i kinda just am on my own. idrk what people think of me but i constantly feel like many of them dont like me.