How can you even be "Blackpilled"

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This forum is filled with easily influenced kids, and it’s honestly wild how a few well-written sentences can completely change the way they think. They start repeating an ideology they don’t even fully understand, blindly following the narrative without ever questioning the bigger picture.

The blackpill has plenty of flaws, but of course the teenagers on this forum can’t seem to grasp them even though they are obvious in almost every BP video. A classic example is the constant cherry picking: they’ll compare a clearly below average guy to someone in the top 0.5% and act like it’s a fair comparison. Then they claim the average guy is doomed no marriage, no job, no future while the top tier guy is basically the Cristiano Ronaldo of life... Like where is the correlation???

Muh hunter eyes! :soy: Facial symmetry! :soy: Hollow cheeks! :soy:
Like bro, do you seriously think that when a woman walks past a guy on the street, she’s analyzing the angle of his canthal tilt? Lets be real she’s most likely noticing overall facial harmony or just general masculinity... But then you go to the rating section and it’s full of teenagers sucking in their cheeks and squinting like apes, trying to look "maxxed" its laughable. Its pure male gaze nonsense. As if they could walk around 24/7 squinting and sucking their cheeks...
People here also love to claim that having a certain body type, not height, but a gymmaxxed physique automatically makes you attractive. There was even a thread today saying "big arms + thick neck = instant respect", like yeah respect from other men cause women dont give a single fuck... I work at a gym, and let me tell you: the shredded 30 year old guys aren’t dating HTBs. Most of them are either with LTBs, MTB's, or just single.
What’s even funnier is that the most attractive women in the gym, mostly HTB's and a few stacylite (imo) are usually dating either looksmatches or guys who, by blackpill standards, would be considered below average and none of them is gymmaxed... So much for muscles = success.

The blackpill also paints all women as hypergamous, shallow, and only chasing chads for looks and money... Do you guys even go outside? Because if you do, I can tell you right now the next couple walking in front of you isn’t going to be some Chad + Stacy. More often than not, its just two regular people, average looks, maybe even a guy who’d be labeled a sub5 by this community. Real life isn’t a dating app algorithm...


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OP just stumbled across the blackpill for the first time and is now trying to convince himself that it's not true somehow :feelskek:

Just you wait until you discover the other (((pills))) :feelsgood:
 
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Bait ass title nigga, I clicked on this expecting some reddit dissertation but it's a fucking ocean. The apple of an African's eye. Once anything stops being your actual personal truth it's just fluff, alot of these org niggas and youtube blackpillers cling too strongly to what they see as authority and end up parroting dumbfuck takes because people want to outcompete eachother in how doomerist they can be. The world doesn't have to be a worse caricature of itself, it already is what it is.
 
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Not one molecule
 
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How can you even be "Bluepilled” ??​

 
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OP just stumbled across the blackpill for the first time and is now trying to convince himself that it's not true somehow :feelskek:

Just you wait until you discover the other (((pills))) :feelsgood:
Tell me a blackpill moment that you've witnessed irl. Oh!! stacys want chad!! so the sub5 men is virgin... Everday i walk outside there's a sub5 man with a girlfriend...
 
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OP just stumbled across the blackpill for the first time and is now trying to convince himself that it's not true somehow :feelskek:

Just you wait until you discover the other (((pills))) :feelsgood:

How can you even be "Bluepilled” ??​

Btw I would prefer that you actually tryed to refute the flaws I just stated on the blackpill ideology, cause im quite sure you cant...
 
Because they are fucking nt normie retards with a sheep mindset unable to think outside the box of a strict set of ideological priniciples presented to them by a slightly higher iq person
 
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Tell me a blackpill moment that you've witnessed irl. Oh!! stacys want chad!! so the sub5 men is virgin... Everday i walk outside there's a sub5 man with a girlfriend...
i was instantly rejected by a girl after telling her my height eventhough before she was saying that i looked good and btw i was still 4 inches taller than her (i bumped my height up an inch its more like a 3 inch difference)
 
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Tell me a blackpill moment that you've witnessed irl. Oh!! stacys want chad!! so the sub5 men is virgin... Everday i walk outside there's a sub5 man with a girlfriend...
also dating app data shows you just how blackpilled dating apps are
 
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i was instantly rejected by a girl after telling her my height eventhough before she was saying that i looked good and btw i was still 4 inches taller than her (i bumped my height up an inch its more like a 3 inch difference)
One rejection ≠ universal truth, just because one person rejected you after learning your height doesnt mean all or even most will. People have preferences, biases, and random dealbreakers all the time. That’s human behavior, not a universal law of attraction. For example you woudnt date an obese woman right?
also dating app data shows you just how blackpilled dating apps are
Dating apps arent a reflection of real life. I'd say the number of people that are a couple thanks to dating apps is less than 5% worldwide.
Been saying this for quite a while tbh, dating apps are only good as an reflection of how good looking you are for the average woman, the number of likes and the quality of those likes are 5000000x a better indication of your looks level than a random incel telling you with an incel scale.
 
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Most people here are losers who sit inside their moms basement all day on their PC, have zero friends, no job, and no life and blame all their problems on muh looks.

Anyone who’s actually worked normie jobs and has basic social skills knows Blackpill is 100% false.

At my old lifeguard job I saw all kinds of manlets, ugly guys, ethnics with cute gfs just because they were confident, took care of themselves (not fat fucks), and had basic social skills.
 
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One rejection ≠ universal truth, just because one person rejected you after learning your height doesnt mean all or even most will.
Tinder’s introduction of a height filter for premium users (2025) sparked debate, but data from user behavior shows women frequently set minimum height thresholds at 6’0”, even when they’re much shorter (e.g., 5’3” women excluding men under 6’0”). A 2013 study cited by Newsweek found women prefer partners 8 inches taller, and Tinder’s data reflects this in swipe patterns: men 6’0”+ get significantly higher match rates than men 5’8” or below. For example, men 5’6” report needing to “game the system” by exaggerating height to avoid being filtered out.
2013 Speed-Dating Study (N = 5,782 participants, 128,104 choices):
Conducted in the U.S. and Canada, this study (published in Personality and Individual Differences) found women were most likely to select men 25 cm (9.8 inches) taller than themselves, while men preferred women 7 cm (2.8 inches) shorter. Women’s minimum preferred height never dropped below 5’7”, even for shorter women, and men below 5’8” faced significantly lower selection rates.

Millennium Cohort Study (UK, N = 12,502 couples):Findings: This large-scale study of UK couples found that in 91% of heterosexual couples, the man was taller than the woman, far higher than expected by random pairing (where men are taller in ~70% of cases due to average height differences). The average height difference was 5–6 inches, with women most satisfied when the man was 8 inches taller

OkCupid: ~1.5 million interactions, with specific analyses on thousands of profiles.
Bumble: 10,000 user profiles, focused on swipe behavior.
Tinder: 75 million monthly users, with studies sampling thousands of profiles.
Speed-Dating Study: 5,782 participants, 128,104 choices.
Millennium Cohort Study: 12,502 couples.
These datasets are large and drawn from diverse contexts (apps, speed-dating, real couples), ensuring reliable evidence of convergence toward taller men.

Dating apps arent a reflection of real life. I'd say the number of people that are a couple thanks to dating apps is less than 5% worldwide.
Not worth debating this.
 
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do you know that the blackpill is not only related to looks but basically assumes that your whole is determined from the moment you are born? that includes personality and even socialeconomic factors.
i dont get how you can deny that, the only non-chads who you see having active dating life are hypersocial which is also genetic
 
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Tinder’s introduction of a height filter for premium users (2025) sparked debate, but data from user behavior shows women frequently set minimum height thresholds at 6’0”, even when they’re much shorter (e.g., 5’3” women excluding men under 6’0”). A 2013 study cited by Newsweek found women prefer partners 8 inches taller, and Tinder’s data reflects this in swipe patterns: men 6’0”+ get significantly higher match rates than men 5’8” or below. For example, men 5’6” report needing to “game the system” by exaggerating height to avoid being filtered out.
2013 Speed-Dating Study (N = 5,782 participants, 128,104 choices):
Conducted in the U.S. and Canada, this study (published in Personality and Individual Differences) found women were most likely to select men 25 cm (9.8 inches) taller than themselves, while men preferred women 7 cm (2.8 inches) shorter. Women’s minimum preferred height never dropped below 5’7”, even for shorter women, and men below 5’8” faced significantly lower selection rates.

Millennium Cohort Study (UK, N = 12,502 couples):Findings: This large-scale study of UK couples found that in 91% of heterosexual couples, the man was taller than the woman, far higher than expected by random pairing (where men are taller in ~70% of cases due to average height differences). The average height difference was 5–6 inches, with women most satisfied when the man was 8 inches taller

OkCupid: ~1.5 million interactions, with specific analyses on thousands of profiles.
Bumble: 10,000 user profiles, focused on swipe behavior.
Tinder: 75 million monthly users, with studies sampling thousands of profiles.
Speed-Dating Study: 5,782 participants, 128,104 choices.
Millennium Cohort Study: 12,502 couples.
These datasets are large and drawn from diverse contexts (apps, speed-dating, real couples), ensuring reliable evidence of convergence toward taller men.


Not worth debating this.
An argument against the idea that Tinder represents real-life dating is that Tinder simplifies and distorts key aspects of real-life romantic interaction. Here are the core points in that argument:














1.


Overemphasis on Appearance








  • Tinder prioritizes visual attraction—users decide to engage based primarily on profile pictures.
  • In real life, attraction often builds through body language, conversation, shared experiences, or context, not just looks.
















2.


Lack of Social Context








  • In person, people meet through mutual friends, school, work, hobbies, or social events, where trust and compatibility are more naturally assessed.
  • Tinder removes those social frameworks, creating an artificial, contextless interaction.
















3.


Gamification and Choice Overload








  • Tinder’s swipe mechanic turns dating into a game, which encourages impulsivity, superficiality, and short attention spans.
  • This differs from real life, where people usually take more time to assess potential partners.
















4.


Misrepresentation and Curation








  • Users can curate and edit their profiles to present idealized versions of themselves, leading to misaligned expectations.
  • In real life, people present themselves more organically—flaws, quirks, and all.
















5.


Different Intentions








  • Many people use Tinder for casual encounters, hookups, or validation, which may not reflect the broader intentions people have when dating in real life (like long-term relationships).
  • Real-world dating offers clearer signals and cues about someone’s intentions.
















6.


Emotional and Interpersonal Skills Are Undervalued








  • Tinder interactions often begin and end with short texts, not genuine conversations.
  • Real-life dating heavily involves empathy, emotional intelligence, timing, vulnerability, and other interpersonal skills that Tinder often bypasses.













Conclusion: While Tinder is a part of modern dating culture, it reflects a narrow and distorted slice of how people actually connect romantically in real life.
 
Tinder’s introduction of a height filter for premium users (2025) sparked debate, but data from user behavior shows women frequently set minimum height thresholds at 6’0”, even when they’re much shorter (e.g., 5’3” women excluding men under 6’0”). A 2013 study cited by Newsweek found women prefer partners 8 inches taller, and Tinder’s data reflects this in swipe patterns: men 6’0”+ get significantly higher match rates than men 5’8” or below. For example, men 5’6” report needing to “game the system” by exaggerating height to avoid being filtered out.
2013 Speed-Dating Study (N = 5,782 participants, 128,104 choices):
Conducted in the U.S. and Canada, this study (published in Personality and Individual Differences) found women were most likely to select men 25 cm (9.8 inches) taller than themselves, while men preferred women 7 cm (2.8 inches) shorter. Women’s minimum preferred height never dropped below 5’7”, even for shorter women, and men below 5’8” faced significantly lower selection rates.

Millennium Cohort Study (UK, N = 12,502 couples):Findings: This large-scale study of UK couples found that in 91% of heterosexual couples, the man was taller than the woman, far higher than expected by random pairing (where men are taller in ~70% of cases due to average height differences). The average height difference was 5–6 inches, with women most satisfied when the man was 8 inches taller

OkCupid: ~1.5 million interactions, with specific analyses on thousands of profiles.
Bumble: 10,000 user profiles, focused on swipe behavior.
Tinder: 75 million monthly users, with studies sampling thousands of profiles.
Speed-Dating Study: 5,782 participants, 128,104 choices.
Millennium Cohort Study: 12,502 couples.
These datasets are large and drawn from diverse contexts (apps, speed-dating, real couples), ensuring reliable evidence of convergence toward taller men.


Not worth debating this.
Height is a indication that blackpill is real? Like what? Quite sure it indicates you are most likely to have more sucess, its not an universal truth
 
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An argument against the idea that Tinder represents real-life dating is that Tinder simplifies and distorts key aspects of real-life romantic interaction. Here are the core points in that argument:














1.


Overemphasis on Appearance








  • Tinder prioritizes visual attraction—users decide to engage based primarily on profile pictures.
  • In real life, attraction often builds through body language, conversation, shared experiences, or context, not just looks.
















2.


Lack of Social Context








  • In person, people meet through mutual friends, school, work, hobbies, or social events, where trust and compatibility are more naturally assessed.
  • Tinder removes those social frameworks, creating an artificial, contextless interaction.
















3.


Gamification and Choice Overload








  • Tinder’s swipe mechanic turns dating into a game, which encourages impulsivity, superficiality, and short attention spans.
  • This differs from real life, where people usually take more time to assess potential partners.
















4.


Misrepresentation and Curation








  • Users can curate and edit their profiles to present idealized versions of themselves, leading to misaligned expectations.
  • In real life, people present themselves more organically—flaws, quirks, and all.
















5.


Different Intentions








  • Many people use Tinder for casual encounters, hookups, or validation, which may not reflect the broader intentions people have when dating in real life (like long-term relationships).
  • Real-world dating offers clearer signals and cues about someone’s intentions.
















6.


Emotional and Interpersonal Skills Are Undervalued








  • Tinder interactions often begin and end with short texts, not genuine conversations.
  • Real-life dating heavily involves empathy, emotional intelligence, timing, vulnerability, and other interpersonal skills that Tinder often bypasses.













Conclusion: While Tinder is a part of modern dating culture, it reflects a narrow and distorted slice of how people actually connect romantically in real life.
Would be a good argument if I only included tinder
 
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First you deny, now you backpeddle?
Cmon.
Backpeddle on what? The average male height in one country is lets say 1.80 cm, the blackpill says and what you are trying to say is, if a guy is 1.75cm he got no chance, its over, thats it...
 
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Anyone who’s actually worked normie jobs and has basic social skills knows Blackpill is 100% false
definitely not 100% false, but also not 100% true

heres how i would personally rank the “pills” from most to least accurate and my thoughts on them

1. blackpill (absolute truth nuke of a pill, most accurate, however it is a giga doomer ideology with some inaccuracies that should be taken with a grain of salt)

2. redpill (less accurate than the blackpill but still has some truth to it, i believe if you play your cards right, redpill game could unironically ascend the fuck out of you, best for lifestylemaxxing if you don’t fall for the redpill grifters, should also be taken with a grain of salt though)

3. bluepill (ignorant, harmful, batshit, and just completely misleading ideology and if you’re bluepilled in 2025 you are the lowest of low sentience and room temperature iq)
 
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Backpeddle on what? The average male height in one country is lets say 1.80 cm, the blackpill says and what you are trying to say is, if a guy is 1.75cm he got no chance, its over, thats it...
No that would be really stupid to say
Ignoring exceptions would destroy all credibility.
 
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I would never say to man TO never try
I am libertarian personally
I don't think any libertarian would be elected as president in my country
But I am still one

You can take it as this
 
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they’ll compare a clearly below average guy to someone in the top 0.5% and act like it’s a fair comparison
Blackpill isn’t supposed to be fair
 
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definitely not 100% false, but also not 100% true

heres how i would personally rank the “pills” from most to least accurate and my thoughts on them

1. blackpill (absolute truth nuke of a pill, most accurate, however it is a giga doomer ideology with some inaccuracies that should be taken with a grain of salt)

2. redpill (less accurate than the blackpill but still has some truth to it, i believe if you play your cards right, redpill game could unironically ascend the fuck out of you, best for lifestylemaxxing if you don’t fall for the redpill grifters, should also be taken with a grain of salt though)

3. bluepill (ignorant, harmful, batshit, and just completely misleading ideology and if you’re bluepilled in 2025 you are the lowest of low sentience and room temperature iq)
That's how I feel mainly. Most pills will have certain aspects of truth, and so just take those parts that you believe in and live by them or educate yourself with them, but you don't need to trap yourself inside one single ideology. Putting yourself and your beliefs inside one single box forever is silly, and you don't need to be ride or die for every aspect of an ideology. Obviously we all believe certain aspects of the pills are true or we wouldn't be here.

Bluepill is for the ignorant, but we have ignorant people in this world. I view it as a necessary evil in a lot of ways.
 
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No that would be really stupid to say
Ignoring exceptions would destroy all credibility.
Thats exactly my point. If you look at what the blackpill actually promotes, it basically says that if you werent born with a certain level of attractiveness, you might as well just kys. It pushes this hopeless narrative that you'll never be anyone but just because one woman rejected that guy over his height doesnt mean no other woman will ever care about him. That kind of thinking is irrational.
 
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That's how I feel mainly. Most pills will have certain aspects of truth, and so just take those parts that you believe in and live by them or educate yourself with them, but you don't need to trap yourself inside one single ideology. Putting yourself and your beliefs inside one single box forever is silly, and you don't need to be ride or die for every aspect of an ideology. Obviously we all believe certain aspects of the pills are true or we wouldn't be here.

Bluepill is for the ignorant, but we have ignorant people in this world. I view it as a necessary evil in a lot of ways.
yep

blackpillers wouldn’t like to hear this, but believing in one ideology strictly without taking others into consideration is actually a normie trait, and we all know how anti-normie the average blackpiller is.

personally ive always been blackpilled and redpilled. im more blackpill-leaning though because of how my teenage years went.
 
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Thats exactly my point. If you look at what the blackpill actually promotes, it basically says that if you werent born with a certain level of attractiveness, you might as well just kys. It pushes this hopeless narrative that you'll never be anyone but just because one woman rejected that guy over his height doesnt mean no other woman will ever care about him. That kind of thinking is irrational.
To me being purely blackpilled where you feel like there's no hope in change almost goes against the concept/ideology of looksmaxxing in general. I know that .org and .is have a lot of overlaps, but I feel like there's a reason we're two separate sites. I was a bit surprised to see so many people say to just give up on here. Obviously you need to have a realistic understanding that looksmaxxing only takes you so far, but still.
 
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Blackpill isn’t supposed to be fair
Dude, you need to think beyond what I said. Most of the comparisons shown in blackpill videos and within the blackpill community in general are between some gigachad and a so called sub5 or average guy, just to prove a point. But irl, its extremely rare to even come across a chad, and chances are, you're not some subhuman either, you are just a normal guy. So the content in those videos is already disconnected from your own real life experience and doesnt accurately reflect your everyday reality.

Most of the time is just normie vs normie to get a becky...
 
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Dude, you need to think beyond what I said. Most of the comparisons shown in blackpill videos and within the blackpill community in general are between some gigachad and a so called sub5 or average guy, just to prove a point. But irl, its extremely rare to even come across a chad, and chances are, you're not some subhuman either, you are just a normal guy. So the content in those videos is already disconnected from your own real life experience and doesnt accurately reflect your everyday reality.

Most of the time is just normie vs normie to get a becky...
That is very true, but make no mistake the normie Becky picks will have to at least look slightly better, or compensate by being more confident, charismatic etc
 
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Another subhuman redditor bluepiller in this forum… We have enough of you niggers here, just fucking leave you disgusting coper.
 
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To me being purely blackpilled where you feel like there's no hope in change almost goes against the concept/ideology of looksmaxxing in general. I know that .org and .is have a lot of overlaps, but I feel like there's a reason we're two separate sites. I was a bit surprised to see so many people say to just give up on here. Obviously you need to have a realistic understanding that looksmaxxing only takes you so far, but still.
Honestly, before I even came across this forum, I had no idea what the blackpill was or that people actually followed such an extreme ideology. At first, I started buying into it like a sheep believing the whole "looks determine everything" narrative. But man, my work involves constantly watching and talking to all kinds of people, and that gave me perspective. Sure, there are some truths in the blackpillbut most of the time, it is just an exaggerated interpretation of real social interactions...
 
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Another subhuman redditor bluepiller in this forum… We have enough of you niggers here, just fucking leave you disgusting coper.
Just get out of my thread kid... Smh...
 
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Tinder’s introduction of a height filter for premium users (2025) sparked debate, but data from user behavior shows women frequently set minimum height thresholds at 6’0”, even when they’re much shorter (e.g., 5’3” women excluding men under 6’0”). A 2013 study cited by Newsweek found women prefer partners 8 inches taller, and Tinder’s data reflects this in swipe patterns: men 6’0”+ get significantly higher match rates than men 5’8” or below. For example, men 5’6” report needing to “game the system” by exaggerating height to avoid being filtered out.
2013 Speed-Dating Study (N = 5,782 participants, 128,104 choices):
Conducted in the U.S. and Canada, this study (published in Personality and Individual Differences) found women were most likely to select men 25 cm (9.8 inches) taller than themselves, while men preferred women 7 cm (2.8 inches) shorter. Women’s minimum preferred height never dropped below 5’7”, even for shorter women, and men below 5’8” faced significantly lower selection rates.

Millennium Cohort Study (UK, N = 12,502 couples):Findings: This large-scale study of UK couples found that in 91% of heterosexual couples, the man was taller than the woman, far higher than expected by random pairing (where men are taller in ~70% of cases due to average height differences). The average height difference was 5–6 inches, with women most satisfied when the man was 8 inches taller

OkCupid: ~1.5 million interactions, with specific analyses on thousands of profiles.
Bumble: 10,000 user profiles, focused on swipe behavior.
Tinder: 75 million monthly users, with studies sampling thousands of profiles.
Speed-Dating Study: 5,782 participants, 128,104 choices.
Millennium Cohort Study: 12,502 couples.
These datasets are large and drawn from diverse contexts (apps, speed-dating, real couples), ensuring reliable evidence of convergence toward taller men.


Not worth debating this.
Good job on brutally destroying this bluepilled coper by presenting actual facts instead of bluepilled reddit garbage he spilled with no evidence or logic or anything at all to back it up.
 
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Good job on brutally destroying this bluepilled coper by presenting actual facts instead of bluepilled reddit garbage he spilled with no evidence or logic or anything at all to back it up.
You cant make this shit up... Do you even know how to read just get out of my thread you low iq inbred... You cant even refute nothing of what I said... You not only bring no value to this thread nor irl...
 
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do you know that the blackpill is not only related to looks but basically assumes that your whole is determined from the moment you are born? that includes personality and even socialeconomic factors.
i dont get how you can deny that, the only non-chads who you see having active dating life are hypersocial which is also genetic
Sorry I missed your comment. Either way I dont agree with your comment at all XD.
i dont get how you can deny that, the only non-chads who you see having active dating life are hypersocial which is also genetic
This comment alone is so bad... What about Elon Musk? Was he born a Chad? And what about like 90% of famous athletes were they born chads? Sure, Usain Bolt has the right genetics and the perfect type of muscle fibers for the 100-meter race, but what about Cristiano Ronaldo? Was he born with the perfect genetics, or did he fight and work hard to get where he is?... That comment makes no sense.
If you are talking about the dating life only, it still makes no sense since, when you go outside normies are dating beckys, subhumans are dating beckys...
 
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Good thread.
 
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