How come I get iois in person but hardly any matches on tinder

[Nautica]

Lmao inknow not that kind of ioi. Women will look stare hop out of there cars near me smile etc

LMFAO! Get real bro

 

[KDA Player]

Iois are cope

Dick sucked are cope

 

[Yoyo2233]

LMFAO! Get real bro

Huh?

 

[Yoyo2233]

LMFAO! Get real bro

Only sex matters?

 

[Subhuman trash]

Dick sucked are cope

I don’t get any of that

 

[Nautica]

Only sex matters?

Are you asking me if only sex matters?

 

[randomuser2407]

Why do women follow me and smile at the me then?

Don't trust what these idiots are saying, they're just trying to destroy your self confidence so you stay just like them. Like I said, it's normal if you can't get matches, women have too many options with online dating but in real life, most men don't even dare to approach women during the day so on the rare occasion where it happens, she is definitely going to remember it and talk about it with her friends and family.

Insecure incels will tell you that women would approach a hot guy but they are wrong. Women never make the first move most of the time even if you're hot. If this wasn't the case, if those incels were really right, then girls who are many points below you would approach you, but clearly it does not happen. That's because most girls are very shy in person around strangers and if they want to create opportunities, they'll use online dating.

But make no mistake, although girls have hundreds of options on Tinder, they'll reject the vast majority not because they have options but because most of the men on there are considered to be low quality, that is because on Tinder, she can only judge you based on your pictures. But in real life, she can judge you based on other factors such as your height, your vibe/personality, your self confidence and how you look in person. Also, it's not hard to be visible in real life, you just have to go out, but on Tinder, your ELO score can be ruined by so many factors.

Also, yes you can tell if they like you through eye contact. If they hold eye contact with you for more than 2 seconds, they are very attracted to you and if you talk to them with a good indirect opener, it's nearly 100% guaranteed that she likes you and you don't get rejected.

If girls don't look at you at all even after you spend some time checking them out, then they're just not available. And if they look at you but only for half a second before looking away, they are available but not necessarily attracted to you but wanted to see who was checking them out. Most of the time, a girl will never look at you if she has a boyfriend, that is because she doesn't want to get approached.

TL ; DR: The trick to succeeding in day game is to only approach the ones who make eye contact with you for 2 seconds or more and stick mostly to indirect openers, especially when you are in a risky location with security guards. A direct opener could get you cockblocked, but an indirect opener will always make you go under the radar. If you want a more detailed version of everything I have said here with more great advice, I recommend you read the book where I got all this information, it's Game by Roosh V, it was published in 2018 and so it is updated to match with the current #metoo hostile social situation with talking to women. You can get the book for free here from zlibrary: https://b-ok.cc/book/5206813/0e94cf

 

[randomuser2407]

I mean shit I got a girls number the other day and she said nice meeting my hottie I even asked her if she had a boyfriend so I gave her the option

Don't ask if she has a boyfriend, just do eye contact first before approaching to see if she is available and how much she is attracted to you. Also, don't just aim to get numbers. The best way to close an approach is to tell her you have to go but want to continue the conversation with her over drinks, this way when she gives you her number, she knows what you are going to ask her, so she is more likely to reply to your text later on. Also, focus mostly on the girls who like you so the ones who make the most eye contact. It's better to have low standards early on to acquire some experience and be comfortable enough to succeed with hotter women.

Since I was 16, I made the mistake of always aiming for the hottest women so I missed out on so many great opportunities that would have given me a lot of experience over the years. Having sex with an ugly woman is better than masturbating with your hand anyways. And you don't have to make her into your girlfriend after you have sex with her. Anyways, most of the success that players have is with ugly or average looking women and often times, they give the best sexual performance while the hottest girls just lie there and do nothing, so there is an benefit to having sex with ugly or average women.

 

[Yoyo2233]

Don't ask if she has a boyfriend, just do eye contact first before approaching to see if she is available and how much she is attracted to you. Also, don't just aim to get numbers. The best way to close an approach is to tell her you have to go but want to continue the conversation with her over drinks, this way when she gives you her number, she knows what you are going to ask her, so she is more likely to reply to your text later on. Also, focus mostly on the girls who like you so the ones who make the most eye contact. It's better to have low standards early on to acquire some experience and be comfortable enough to succeed with hotter women.

Since I was 16, I made the mistake of always aiming for the hottest women so I missed out on so many great opportunities that would have given me a lot of experience over the years. Having sex with an ugly woman is better than masturbating with your hand anyways. And you don't have to make her into your girlfriend after you have sex with her. Anyways, most of the success that players have is with ugly or average looking women and often times, they give the best sexual performance while the hottest girls just lie there and do nothing, so there is an benefit to having sex with ugly or average women.

What do you mean eye contact though? Like to just look at her make eye contact with her? Or the ones that look at
Me the most or something?

 

[randomuser2407]

What do you mean eye contact though? Like to just look at her make eye contact with her? Or the ones that look at
Me the most or something?

Use a direct approach on those who look at you for longer than 2 seconds, use indirect on all the others to maximize your success rate.
So here's the step-by-step technique of doing that:

1) Make eye contact with the girls that you find hot enough to have sex with.
2) Then keep looking into their eyes until they look at you.
3) Count the number of seconds that they look back at you and judge their attraction level based on that alone
4) Approach only the girls who gave you eye contact longer than 2 seconds
5) Use either an indirect or direct opener and start a conversation that lasts (around 10 minutes)
The longer the conversation is, the more likely she is to give you her number and follow through with the date. Because if you just get numbers as quickly as possible, she hasn't talked to you for long enough to know if she likes your personality or not. Because unlike what most people here will tell you, personality does matter, you can also dislike her personality so it's helpful for you too to do this.

For an indirect opener, you'll say something like: "Excuse me, do you know where I can find a coffee shop around here that has the best coffee (or tea)?" (you can swap the words "coffee shops" and "coffee" with literally anything else like pizza, burgers, sushi, or a specific product that you want to buy)

Act like every answer she gives you isn't good enough because you are searching for a specific food item or product, be as dissatisfied by her answers as possible to extend the conversation for as long as possible.

Then, later on, you use some bait to make her ask questions about yourself to make it more personal:
"Where I come from, there are a lot of good coffee shops. So I’m used to quality.”

Then, she will ask where you come from, and if you live in your country of origin, you can say that but say that you lived in another country or city for a certain number of years and then she will make you talk about it.

Then you can compliment her personality or mood (not her looks), then you can close with her number by asking her out to continue the conversation.

Also, if she gives you lots of eye contact you can be more effective by saying: “Do I know you from somewhere?”

 

[randomuser2407]

If you're interested I have also found a great free guide that you can use to make dating as fun and as enjoyable as possible, maximize your performance in bed and make her into a fuckbuddy or even into a girlfriend. The guide even shows you how to get threesomes, it's a tinder guide at it's core but it works for approaching too, you just have to skip the first few parts of the guide. I combine both Roosh V's Game and that guide to maximize my chances of success: https://killyourinnerloser.com/tinder-guide-4/

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Don't trust what these idiots are saying, they're just trying to destroy your self confidence so you stay just like them. Like I said, it's normal if you can't get matches, women have too many options with online dating but in real life, most men don't even dare to approach women during the day so on the rare occasion where it happens, she is definitely going to remember it and talk about it with her friends and family.

Insecure incels will tell you that women would approach a hot guy but they are wrong. Women never make the first move most of the time even if you're hot. If this wasn't the case, if those incels were really right, then girls who are many points below you would approach you, but clearly it does not happen. That's because most girls are very shy in person around strangers and if they want to create opportunities, they'll use online dating.

But make no mistake, although girls have hundreds of options on Tinder, they'll reject the vast majority not because they have options but because most of the men on there are considered to be low quality, that is because on Tinder, she can only judge you based on your pictures. But in real life, she can judge you based on other factors such as your height, your vibe/personality, your self confidence and how you look in person. Also, it's not hard to be visible in real life, you just have to go out, but on Tinder, your ELO score can be ruined by so many factors.

Also, yes you can tell if they like you through eye contact. If they hold eye contact with you for more than 2 seconds, they are very attracted to you and if you talk to them with a good indirect opener, it's nearly 100% guaranteed that she likes you and you don't get rejected.

If girls don't look at you at all even after you spend some time checking them out, then they're just not available. And if they look at you but only for half a second before looking away, they are available but not necessarily attracted to you but wanted to see who was checking them out. Most of the time, a girl will never look at you if she has a boyfriend, that is because she doesn't want to get approached.

TL ; DR: The trick to succeeding in day game is to only approach the ones who make eye contact with you for 2 seconds or more and stick mostly to indirect openers, especially when you are in a risky location with security guards. A direct opener could get you cockblocked, but an indirect opener will always make you go under the radar. If you want a more detailed version of everything I have said here with more great advice, I recommend you read the book where I got all this information, it's Game by Roosh V, it was published in 2018 and so it is updated to match with the current #metoo hostile social situation with talking to women. You can get the book for free here from zlibrary: https://b-ok.cc/book/5206813/0e94cf

Women DO approach

your coping if u disagree

 

[Deleted member 6403]

the hottest girls just lie there and do nothing, so there is an benefit to having sex with ugly or average women.

Cope

 

[randomuser2407]

Women DO approach

your coping if u disagree

Yes girls do approach, but only in the right situation. A girl who is out during the day at the supermarket, mall, library, bookstore or in a clothing store is not going to approach a guy that she is attracted to. I have never seen it happen, not even in a youtube video, except for the times where it was a social experiment. Women will only approach you in a bar or a club but not when they are busy doing something else.

However, during the day, they are going to give you IOIs through eye contact, the trick is to approach only the ones who give you the strongest IOIs. If you do that, your success rate is almost 100%.

The reason why women don't approach during the day is because they are not in that environment to have sex unlike when they go out to bars. The benefit of approaching during the day though is that 99.9% of the time they aren't going to get approached, because most millenial and gen z men are cowards.

This means that women will not have their shields up during that time, so they are less likely to reject you, you are also less likely to get cockblocked, and also, many women dream of getting approached by a hot guy during the day, because they have seen it in their favorite romantic comedy movies, and it's a fantasy for many of them especially since most guys are too cowardly to do it.

Also, the word "coping" isn't a valid argument, it's like when a virgintow says that "all women are like that" or that "she's not yours it's just your turn." Incels will always tell a guy who is starting to change for the better that he is coping because they want him to be just as miserable as they are, that is the truth.

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Yes girls do approach, but only in the right situation. A girl who is out during the day at the supermarket, mall, library, bookstore or in a clothing store is not going to approach a guy that she is attracted to. I have never seen it happen, not even in a youtube video, except for the times where it was a social experiment. Women will only approach you in a bar or a club but not when they are busy doing something else.

However, during the day, they are going to give you IOIs through eye contact, the trick is to approach only the ones who give you the strongest IOIs. If you do that, your success rate is almost 100%.

The reason why women don't approach during the day is because they are not in that environment to have sex unlike when they go out to bars. The benefit of approaching during the day though is that 99.9% of the time they aren't going to get approached, because most millenial and gen z men are cowards.

This means that women will not have their shields up during that time, so they are less likely to reject you, you are also less likely to get cockblocked, and also, many women dream of getting approached by a hot guy during the day, because they have seen it in their favorite romantic comedy movies, and it's a fantasy for many of them especially since most guys are too cowardly to do it.

Also, the word "coping" isn't a valid argument, it's like when a virgintow says that "all women are like that" or that "she's not yours it's just your turn." Incels will always tell a guy who is starting to change for the better that he is coping because they want him to be just as miserable as they are, that is the truth.

False, I’ve gotten approached in normal situations and I ain’t even Chad yet

You just have to be attractive enough

 

[randomuser2407]

False, I’ve gotten approached in normal situations and I ain’t even Chad yet

You just have to be attractive enough

What normal situations are you talking about? Just to clarify, I was talking about going to public places where you don't know anyone, making eye contact with random women and approaching them.

 

[Deleted member 6403]

What normal situations are you talking about? Just to clarify, I was talking about going to public places where you don't know anyone, making eye contact with random women and approaching them.

School and the mall

 

[randomuser2407]

School and the mall

That's what I thought you were going to say. I haven't gone to college yet, and when I was in high school, it was a private school with ugly girls so I didn't even put any effort into my appearance, in my area, the hottest girls went to public school. Now I'm in between high school and college and I've been in that same spot for years but I haven't really had any opportunities because I never really went full time for most semesters.

However, for the few semesters where I had lots of classes, I had many opportunities with hot girls, opportunities that I ruined by being too lazy to talk to them. And sure, they haven't approached me, but that's only because in my area, men don't approach women during the day and women don't approach men either.

Maybe it's different elsewhere, but here, the hot guys get laid 100% of the time with online dating, they don't get approached, and they don't approach women because Tinder is so easy. Most women also rely on social circles and tinder.

So, although you may not be lying about getting approached by women, you are 100% wrong when you say that the girls who like me are supposed to be approaching me. Where I live, women don't approach men, that's basically what I'm saying.

That's why I haven't had any experience with women, because where I live, if you don't have a good social circle, and you don't approach women during the day or in bars, you can't succeed even if girls like you. Many times, I have seen girls who liked me so much that they maintained eye contact for a very long time or even smiled at me but because it's so frowned upon in my region to talk to women you don't know, I never had the guts to talk to those women, so I wasted all my opportunities because of that. Even my parents don't want me to do it, but I'm not going to let them run my life.

 

[Yoyo2233]

Use a direct approach on those who look at you for longer than 2 seconds, use indirect on all the others to maximize your success rate.
So here's the step-by-step technique of doing that:

1) Make eye contact with the girls that you find hot enough to have sex with.
2) Then keep looking into their eyes until they look at you.
3) Count the number of seconds that they look back at you and judge their attraction level based on that alone
4) Approach only the girls who gave you eye contact longer than 2 seconds
5) Use either an indirect or direct opener and start a conversation that lasts (around 10 minutes)
The longer the conversation is, the more likely she is to give you her number and follow through with the date. Because if you just get numbers as quickly as possible, she hasn't talked to you for long enough to know if she likes your personality or not. Because unlike what most people here will tell you, personality does matter, you can also dislike her personality so it's helpful for you too to do this.

For an indirect opener, you'll say something like: "Excuse me, do you know where I can find a coffee shop around here that has the best coffee (or tea)?" (you can swap the words "coffee shops" and "coffee" with literally anything else like pizza, burgers, sushi, or a specific product that you want to buy)

Act like every answer she gives you isn't good enough because you are searching for a specific food item or product, be as dissatisfied by her answers as possible to extend the conversation for as long as possible.

Then, later on, you use some bait to make her ask questions about yourself to make it more personal:
"Where I come from, there are a lot of good coffee shops. So I’m used to quality.”

Then, she will ask where you come from, and if you live in your country of origin, you can say that but say that you lived in another country or city for a certain number of years and then she will make you talk about it.

Then you can compliment her personality or mood (not her looks), then you can close with her number by asking her out to continue the conversation.

Also, if she gives you lots of eye contact you can be more effective by saying: “Do I know you from somewhere?”

Ok so just count in my head 1
Second, 2 Second and if she looks at me that long without looking away then she likes me? If she looks away before that then she doesn’t?

 

[Linoob]

Impossible to tell you why without photo examples.

 

[Over]

Why do women follow me and smile at the me then?

Just lol at his nigger he thinks women are following him or smiling at him i never seen this kind of delusional psychosis

 

[randomuser2407]

Ok so just count in my head 1
Second, 2 Second and if she looks at me that long without looking away then she likes me? If she looks away before that then she doesn’t?

Yes exactly. Some could say that if she stares for a long time it could be due to something else, but most of the time, it's because she likes what she sees. I would use an indirect approach on the ones who don't give very long eye contact, and a direct approach on those who give very long eye contact, and I would avoid those who don't look at you at all. That is how you maximize your success rate.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

You look better in motion or you mog more people in your smaller circles than the whole of the world

 

[Deleted member 6997]

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My video

 

[MentalistKebab]

However, during the day, they are going to give you IOIs through eye contact, the trick is to approach only the ones who give you the strongest IOIs. If you do that, your success rate is almost 100%.

The reason why women don't approach during the day is because they are not in that environment to have sex unlike when they go out to bars. The benefit of approaching during the day though is that 99.9% of the time they aren't going to get approached, because most millenial and gen z men are cowards.

This means that women will not have their shields up during that time, so they are less likely to reject you, you are also less likely to get cockblocked, and also, many women dream of getting approached by a hot guy during the day, because they have seen it in their favorite romantic comedy movies, and it's a fantasy for many of them especially since most guys are too cowardly to do it.

Another PUA / Redpill nonsense graycel.
Muh "most Gen Z coward" "muh you just need to approach" and all other shit.

Reality is girls get approached in the middle of day too much to pointthey start with "I have a bf" to their conversations.

There are many guys who literally got in fucking PRISON because they fell for the PUA meme.

Even your username is like the average guys cope. "Yeahh bro, girls check me out, so I am a volcel"

Truth: girl not looking at you with disgust is not an IOI, and because of that you dont get laid often.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Most girls I speak to tell me they are approached almost daily, or atleast weekly. Whether its at the gym, grocery store, in the library, etc. There's always some guy that thinks he has a shot. Ofc they are all rejected.

If you wanna play the approach game its not much different than tinder in terms of success rate. Avg guys dont stand a chance cold approaching, so you gonna have to run very large numbers.

 

[randomuser2407]

Another PUA / Redpill nonsense graycel.
Muh "most Gen Z coward" "muh you just need to approach" and all other shit.

Reality is girls get approached in the middle of day too much to pointthey start with "I have a bf" to their conversations.

There are many guys who literally got in fucking PRISON because they fell for the PUA meme.

Even your username is like the average guys cope. "Yeahh bro, girls check me out, so I am a volcel"

Truth: girl not looking at you with disgust is not an IOI, and because of that you dont get laid often.

You only say this because you come from a mindset of low self confidence, low self worth and body image issues. I am not saying that a guy who is 4/10 can get plenty of success with women who are 10/10 if he just approaches more, you have to be realistic of course but the only women who will check you out are those who are in your league. If you just focus on those, they won't be pissed off that you approached them, that's what you don't understand.

The problem with most PUAs is that they approach women who don't want to be approached, they focus most of their attention on the hottest girls and they ignore the uglier or fatter girls who actually like them because they believe they are entitled to only the hottest girls. I am telling you to do the complete opposite. The trick is to approach women only based on eye contact, not on whether you find them really hot or not. Because most of the time, if you aren't a Chad, you will think that the ones who check you out are too ugly for you. The trick is to lower your standards while you looksmax, it's better to have sex with uglier or fatter girls than being forever alone jerking off alone in a dark room.

The only guys who get arrested for approaching were creepy, not because they were ugly, but because they were too direct and impolite, because they didn't respect women's boundaries and because they approached too many women in the same venue. The trick is to limit yourself to 2 women per location per week, and focus mostly on indirect approaches where you are only asking for information on something. It's not illegal to have conversations with strangers and it is actually a very natural thing to do.

PUAs do the complete opposite of what I am describing, they do very dangerous things, and that's why women dislike them so much, because they have a fake personality and don't actually respect women's boundaries.

Also, although hot girls get approached a lot, average or below average looking women don't get approached often because guys often have high standards and when hot girls get approached, it's never done in a nice smooth way, I'm not talking about trying to seduce women into having sex with you, there is no trick to talking to women, you just do it. If you're too afraid to just have simple non sexual conversations that normal people would have with each other, then you're a coward, it's that simple; a lazy coward who will be forever alone.

 

[randomuser2407]

Most girls I speak to tell me they are approached almost daily, or atleast weekly. Whether its at the gym, grocery store, in the library, etc. There's always some guy that thinks he has a shot. Ofc they are all rejected.

If you wanna play the approach game its not much different than tinder in terms of success rate. Avg guys dont stand a chance cold approaching, so you gonna have to run very large numbers.

I never said to cold approach women. There is a huge difference between approaching random women just because you find them hot, and approaching the women who find you hot, if a girl tells you through eye contact that she is very attracted to you, she won't reject you when you approach her, it's that simple.

So the trick is to limit yourself to those who give you the most eye contact, and you won't get rejected. The only thing that could happen is that she could forget about you after giving you her number because girls have lots of options nowadays. So many numbers may not lead to anything. But if you want to avoid high risk approaches, just never approach women who haven't clearly shown that they like you.

If you're really ugly or even if you're just average, it's very likely that the women who check you out are uglier than you would like, and because of that, they don't get approached as often as the hot girls, they get very little attention from men so they like it when the guy that they want likes them back enough to go up and talk to them.

The problem with PUAs is that they focus on the wrong girls, they try to force attraction with the hottest girls who don't actually like them, they force the interaction so much that they become creepy and impolite. But if you only talk to the girls who like you, they won't reject you because they have no reason to, and the more they are attracted to you, the more forgiving they will be about what you say to them. So it's really not about what you say but how much they are attracted to you.

Even the ugliest subhumans have women who like them but they don't notice it because they view those women as too ugly or too fat because their standards do not match their looks. I am not denying looks. Looks are everything, and the hotter you are, the higher the quantity and quality of women you are able to attract. So looksmaxxing is an excellent idea, but no amount of looksmaxxing is going to help you if you are too afraid to talk to the women who like you. You could be very good looking and be getting attention from many hot women, but if you're too afraid to talk to them, you will never have sex with them. So although looks matter, confidence is essential to take action.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Even the ugliest subhumans have women who like them but they don't notice it because they view those women as too ugly or too fat because their standards do not match their looks.

So basically everything you say boils down to this. Approach/date/flirt with ugly women.

You could be very good looking and be getting attention from many hot women, but if you're too afraid to talk to them, you will never have sex with them. So although looks matter, confidence is essential to take action.

But if you are not 5+PSL, no hot woman will ever give you attention so who even cares if you are afraid to talk to them lmao.

 

[Deleted member 8080]

Bc u r 6 1.
Im the exact opposite. Girls begging me to date me online and nothing irl

 

[randomuser2407]

So basically everything you say boils down to this. Approach/date/flirt with ugly women.



But if you are not 5+PSL, no hot woman will ever give you attention so who even cares if you are afraid to talk to them lmao.

Whether they are ugly or not depends on your own looks level and how you rate the women you meet (the higher your standards, the more you will be dissapointed), for someone like me who is 6 foot 4 but skinny and average in the face, I get a lot of attention from women that I find very hot and consider by my own standards to be 8/10, so I am satisfied with my results although many people here would say that I am average or below average in looks. How women view you in real life matters more than how this site views you, people can tell you you're ugly all they want, but if you can attract women that you like, it doesn't matter what your "PSL rating" actually is.

So I am not saying you have to limit yourself to ugly women, but if you are a 5/10, you will only be able to attract women who are 4/10 or below unless you have really high social status (like if you're a member of a popular band or a famous actor). So you have to be realistic. The more you are realistic, the better your success rate will be, it's that simple.

Also, yes, even if you're average, if you don't have a good halo that makes you stand out, you most likely won't get attention from hot girls so you shouldn't approach them because your success rate will be low since they won't be making long eye contact.

There should be no shame with having sex with girls who are on your level or a little below, anything you can get is still better than nothing at all. Since I was a kid, so for most of my life, my standards have always been very high but that was a huge mistake because the more you limit your options, the less options you will have as a result, and the more alone you will be.

TL ; DR: What I am basically saying is that looksmaxxing is great and it's the most useful thing to have more success with more women and hotter women but while you are doing that, you can have sex or even have a relationship with an uglier girl, there is nothing wrong with that. And it's better to get started now instead of postponing your goals for many years. As humans, we aren't immortal, our time on this planet is very finite, so the more time you waste, the less you have, and although you may only die at 85-90 years old, it's also possible that you die young because of a disease or an accident that you couldn't have anticipated. So if you have dreams or goals, do them now, don't think for a second that you have all the time in the world because you don't.

 

[CommanderCope]

because you aren't top 1% in terms of looks

 

[Yoyo2233]

Yes exactly. Some could say that if she stares for a long time it could be due to something else, but most of the time, it's because she likes what she sees. I would use an indirect approach on the ones who don't give very long eye contact, and a direct approach on those who give very long eye contact, and I would avoid those who don't look at you at all. That is how you maximize your success rate.

It’s just weird man I talked to a woman the other day and she was like your really hot if you have insecurities you need to work on that. Yet I get zero matches on tinder. I don’t consider myself super ugly maybe not model tier but shit I’ve been told I’m attractive etc and gotten laid but I’m struggling on tinder Right now.

 

[randomuser2407]

It’s just weird man I talked to a woman the other day and she was like your really hot if you have insecurities you need to work on that. Yet I get zero matches on tinder. I don’t consider myself super ugly maybe not model tier but shit I’ve been told I’m attractive etc and gotten laid but I’m struggling on tinder Right now.

Like I said before, if Tinder doesn't work for you, give up and focus on approaching women in the real world.

She wouldn't have said you have insecurities if you didn't tell her, and women are just as shy as we are when talking to strangers, so don't worry. Don't tell women you're shy, just be confident when you talk to them. Also, there is nothing to work on, you can't get good at talking to women without talking to women, that would be like running every day to learn how to be faster on a bicycle. Doing social activities can make you more comfortable around people, but the skill of talking to women can only be improved directly. However, after 1 year of approaching women properly like I've been showing you, you should become enough of an expert to get laid with a new girl at least once per week but maybe even more than that. So it's really all about experience, and to get experience, you have to suck at it first, just like with anything else you learn to do.

 

[Yoyo2233]

I never said to cold approach women. There is a huge difference between approaching random women just because you find them hot, and approaching the women who find you hot, if a girl tells you through eye contact that she is very attracted to you, she won't reject you when you approach her, it's that simple.

So the trick is to limit yourself to those who give you the most eye contact, and you won't get rejected. The only thing that could happen is that she could forget about you after giving you her number because girls have lots of options nowadays. So many numbers may not lead to anything. But if you want to avoid high risk approaches, just never approach women who haven't clearly shown that they like you.

If you're really ugly or even if you're just average, it's very likely that the women who check you out are uglier than you would like, and because of that, they don't get approached as often as the hot girls, they get very little attention from men so they like it when the guy that they want likes them back enough to go up and talk to them.

The problem with PUAs is that they focus on the wrong girls, they try to force attraction with the hottest girls who don't actually like them, they force the interaction so much that they become creepy and impolite. But if you only talk to the girls who like you, they won't reject you because they have no reason to, and the more they are attracted to you, the more forgiving they will be about what you say to them. So it's really not about what you say but how much they are attracted to you.

Even the ugliest subhumans have women who like them but they don't notice it because they view those women as too ugly or too fat because their standards do not match their looks. I am not denying looks. Looks are everything, and the hotter you are, the higher the quantity and quality of women you are able to attract. So looksmaxxing is an excellent idea, but no amount of looksmaxxing is going to help you if you are too afraid to talk to the women who like you. You could be very good looking and be getting attention from many hot women, but if you're too afraid to talk to them, you will never have sex with them. So although looks matter, confidence is essential to take action.

I’m just saying I’m confused on how to tell if a girl likes me before I speak to her. Basically just her looking at me?

 

[Enfant terrible]

Which country ?

 

[Yoyo2233]

Like I said before, if Tinder doesn't work for you, give up and focus on approaching women in the real world.

She wouldn't have said you have insecurities if you didn't tell her, and women are just as shy as we are when talking to strangers, so don't worry. Don't tell women you're shy, just be confident when you talk to them. Also, there is nothing to work on, you can't get good at talking to women without talking to women, that would be like running every day to learn how to be faster on a bicycle. Doing social activities can make you more comfortable around people, but the skill of talking to women can only be improved directly. However, after 1 year of approaching women properly like I've been showing you, you should become enough of an expert to get laid with a new girl at least once per week but maybe even more than that. So it's really all about experience, and to get experience, you have to suck at it first, just like with anything else you learn to do.

I didn’t tell her bro she literally that without me saying anything

 

[Yoyo2233]

Which country ?

America hypergamy central

 

[Enfant terrible]

America hypergamy central

Just do it in real life then. Tinder is awful.

 

[randomuser2407]

I’m just saying I’m confused on how to tell if a girl likes me before I speak to her. Basically just her looking at me?

Seriously, at this point, you have to be trolling/larping, I told you everything that you need to know, if you just go through my previous posts and follow that, it'll be enough. Like I keep saying, it's all about eye contact. The more eye contact you get, the more she is attracted to you, because if she found you ugly, she would look away so you don't approach her. And a woman who has a boyfriend or isn't searching for a guy will stare at her phone the entire time, that's how you can see if she is available or not.

 

[Enfant terrible]

Seriously, at this point, you have to be trolling/larping, I told you everything that you need to know, if you just go through my previous posts and follow that, it'll be enough. Like I keep saying, it's all about eye contact. The more eye contact you get, the more she is attracted to you, because if she found you ugly, she would look away so you don't approach her. And a woman who has a boyfriend or isn't searching for a guy will stare at her phone the entire time, that's how you can see if she is available or not.

This is true, also a smile is a clear sign.

 

[Yoyo2233]

Just do it in real life then. Tinder is awful.

Why though thought it was easy to get laid? If I’m not getting shit in real life I won’t get shot on tinder? Why is tinder so bad

 

[randomuser2407]

I didn’t tell her bro she literally that without me saying anything

It also could have been a shit test. I didn't think those were actually real but maybe they actually are. The trick to passing shit tests is to ignore them or to deny them (telling her you're not nervous).

Women don't judge you just based on looks but also based on self confidence, if she is attracted to you but sees that you have poor self image or poor self confidence, she will be turned off because she doesn't want a weak insecure bitch of a man even if he is good looking.

You can't fake self confidence but you can get better at it by talking to more women and acquiring some success. You can't be an expert on day 1 unless you were born with that gift. Most men are too cowardly to develop that skill, so the ones who have the most success with day game are often the ones who were always great at it.

 

[randomuser2407]

Why though thought it was easy to get laid? If I’m not getting shit in real life I won’t get shot on tinder? Why is tinder so bad

Tinder is low effort. Real life is high effort. Low effort gives you poor results, high effort gives you great results. That's the truth.

If you can't get anything in real life it is because you don't approach enough girls. Approach at least 10 girls every week and talk to them properly with the openers I mentioned in my previous posts (direct for the ones who like you a lot, indirect for everyone else).
after 10 weeks, you'll have approached 100 girls, at this point, it will be impossible for you to have 0 success. If you do it properly, you'll even get your first success very early on.

Don't ask for their number right upon meeting them, talk to them for a bit first, have some normal conversations you would have with friends or family, then comment that you like her mood or personality, then close for the number. That's how you do it properly. If you just ask for her number too soon, she won't give it because she won't trust you enough, trust is very important. Most guys can't succeed on Tinder, even I can't, just forget tinder. Stop procrastinating or you will get nowhere in the next 5-10 years, and I say this from experience.

 

[Yoyo2233]

Tinder is low effort. Real life is high effort. Low effort gives you poor results, high effort gives you great results. That's the truth.

If you can't get anything in real life it is because you don't approach enough girls. Approach at least 10 girls every week and talk to them properly with the openers I mentioned in my previous posts (direct for the ones who like you a lot, indirect for everyone else).
after 10 weeks, you'll have approached 100 girls, at this point, it will be impossible for you to have 0 success. If you do it properly, you'll even get your first success very early on.

Don't ask for their number right upon meeting them, talk to them for a bit first, have some normal conversations you would have with friends or family, then comment that you like her mood or personality, then close for the number. That's how you do it properly. If you just ask for her number too soon, she won't give it because she won't trust you enough, trust is very important. Most guys can't succeed on Tinder, even I can't, just forget tinder. Stop procrastinating or you will get nowhere in the next 5-10 years, and I say this from experience.

I’m just saying man if I was a chad wouldn’t I be getting matches?

 

[randomuser2407]

I’m just saying man if I was a chad wouldn’t I be getting matches?

Yeah of course but that's like saying that because there are rich billionaires in the world, you're never going to work because you'll have that life. Focus on what you can control instead of just envying someone else's success.

By the way, it's not that difficult to get matches on Tinder, you just have to be above average, you don't have to be perfect. One thing that helps a lot is to lean down to a low body fat, however the problem if you do that is that you will look very skinny if you have no muscle mass. But it does wonders for your face, and also you can't effectively progress in the gym as a beginner while at a low body fat, so you have to make a sacrifice, either you get a lean face or you get a muscular body and then you get your lean face. I still don't know what I'm going to pick but I'm probably going to gymmax before I leanmax to maximize my overall looks level.

 

[Yoyo2233]

I already

Yeah of course but that's like saying that because there are rich billionaires in the world, you're never going to work because you'll have that life. Focus on what you can control instead of just envying someone else's success.

By the way, it's not that difficult to get matches on Tinder, you just have to be above average, you don't have to be perfect. One thing that helps a lot is to lean down to a low body fat, however the problem if you do that is that you will look very skinny if you have no muscle mass. But it does wonders for your face, and also you can't effectively progress in the gym as a beginner while at a low body fat, so you have to make a sacrifice, either you get a lean face or you get a muscular body and then you get your lean face. I still don't know what I'm going to pick but I'm probably going to gymmax before I leanmax to maximize my overall looks level.

I already bulked up I’m leaning down now to show my jaw and shit again loosing some mass but face is getting leaner

 

[randomuser2407]

I already

I already bulked up I’m leaning down now to show my jaw and shit again loosing some mass but face is getting leaner

What are your lifts (bench press, overhead press, deadlift, squat, barbell row, weighted chin ups)? Also, can you show a picture of your physique?

 

[TheChosenChad]

Photos could be shit but chad takes photos on a potato and gets a 100 matches so probably cope.

What are your lifts (bench press, overhead press, deadlift, squat, barbell row, weighted chin ups)? Also, can you show a picture of your physique?

Never seen a some one cope harder then you posting essays after every post, almost 2k post and you have learned nothing from this site.

Also one of these in this list is probably why your PUA shit works
6'4" 22 yr old skinny white guy Gymmaxxing

That's called being polite and not being socially awkward. It's rude to just stare at someone so they will usually smile to make it less awkward. Just because someone looks at you for one millisecond doesn't mean they want to fuck you as well.

Drop the ego my man, this is comedy tier how every dude thinks he's getting IOIs every day. If you're getting nada on tinder then you aren't getting any IOIs in real life.

Miring this brutal greycel.

 

[Deleted member 8080]

Prob bc u r 6 1. Im short so im the opposite. I do okayish on dating sites but awful irl