How come I never had any matches on dating apps yet my IRL treatment was much better?

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Meanwhile I've seen multiple people claiming they get 0 iois IRL e.g that polish or Russian guy who claims to have been rejected 25dates in a row or smth. @russiancelreturns
Also mogger Gaston claiming 0 iois. Yet both these guys (and many others) get many matches, convos on apps.

I've tried using tinder around 3 times in my life, I've literally never had a conversation with a woman on there. I had 4 matches in my entire life, and around 14 likes at most.

I don't know what looks rating this treatment would be described as but surely below MTN, like LTN or worse.

Whereas IRL I'm treated way better. I've had women approach a few times at bars in the UK, they were never above weak MTB and I always had high standards so never entertained their approaches.

I made the thread nearly a yr ago now JFL when I kissed a girl for the first time in my life in Hungary. Actually was 3 girls in the same night and one was honestly HTB just about with body halo, and was generally treated like a mogger the entire night, guys coming up yo me, talking to me like I was the main man.

At university on my STEM course, in labs on computer etc, multiple student women teaching assistants hit on me, tried making conversation about my personal life and just giggly in general.

On my course I mogged nearly everyone, though no one was a clear cut htn or above. All of the decent looking girls would smile and stare at me across the room despite me sitting alone and not talking to anyone like a loner. I was blackpilled AF at that point, thought sitting alone didn't matter since looks were the only thing that mattered. So you can imagine how surprised I was when I saw they got normie oofy doofy bfs.

Do I just suck at taking pics? I have 0 pictures of me on my phone, I only used selfies front camera, but even when I tried a mirror pic it just always came out low res, looked shit.

I've seen some study that QOVES showed, it's a scatter plot with how looks are rated in IRL (or video maybe) vs still pics. There's some variation, like there's a guy who's a 6 in motion who's a 3.5 in still pics. I think that's me NGL

I'm thinking of buying a DSRL or mirrorless camera to properly assess my face, cuz I just don't get it
 
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Meanwhile I've seen multiple people claiming they get 0 iois IRL e.g that polish or Russian guy who claims to have been rejected 25dates in a row or smth. @russiancelreturns
Also mogger Gaston claiming 0 iois. Yet both these guys (and many others) get many matches, convos on apps.

I've tried using tinder around 3 times in my life, I've literally never had a conversation with a woman on there. I had 4 matches in my entire life, and around 14 likes at most.

I don't know what looks rating this treatment would be described as but surely below MTN, like LTN or worse.

Whereas IRL I'm treated way better. I've had women approach a few times at bars in the UK, they were never above weak MTB and I always had high standards so never entertained their approaches.

I made the thread nearly a yr ago now JFL when I kissed a girl for the first time in my life in Hungary. Actually was 3 girls in the same night and one was honestly HTB just about with body halo, and was generally treated like a mogger the entire night, guys coming up yo me, talking to me like I was the main man.

At university on my STEM course, in labs on computer etc, multiple student women teaching assistants hit on me, tried making conversation about my personal life and just giggly in general.

On my course I mogged nearly everyone, though no one was a clear cut htn or above. All of the decent looking girls would smile and stare at me across the room despite me sitting alone and not talking to anyone like a loner. I was blackpilled AF at that point, thought sitting alone didn't matter since looks were the only thing that mattered. So you can imagine how surprised I was when I saw they got normie oofy doofy bfs.

Do I just suck at taking pics? I have 0 pictures of me on my phone, I only used selfies front camera, but even when I tried a mirror pic it just always came out low res, looked shit.

I've seen some study that QOVES showed, it's a scatter plot with how looks are rated in IRL (or video maybe) vs still pics. There's some variation, like there's a guy who's a 6 in motion who's a 3.5 in still pics. I think that's me NGL

I'm thinking of buying a DSRL or mirrorless camera to properly assess my face, cuz I just don't get it
i took basic car selfies in a daily lightning and posted them in my tinder profile + a gym mirror selfie.

nowadays i get like 1 like on average per day.


got rejected 32th times in a row rn (since i installed tinder a year ago). albeit i got few kissing and even with a high MTB. they all rejected me in the end without an explanation. i think its bc of my cucked behavior. i look low trust and pretty masc so i need to behave more DOM. it might've been a cope but i have no other explanation why it has been happening all the time.

also i got called i remind somerhalder like 20th times since august this year. irl one high class MTB said i should model and wasting my potential. she still rejected me in the end and i didnt even kiss her (blocked me on IG after the first date and deleted the match JFL).

IRL Im invisible. I was working in a pizza shop with some UA slut 3y younger than me and she was very hostile to me and unfriendly. She snitched to my bossjak about my every mistake xd.
 
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like 80% of guys can barley pull on dateing apps so they lower there standers alot so ltb or even mtb get hella praises and probably hundreds of matches bootsting there ego to the point were they think there to good for there looks match
 
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Meanwhile I've seen multiple people claiming they get 0 iois IRL e.g that polish or Russian guy who claims to have been rejected 25dates in a row or smth. @russiancelreturns
Also mogger Gaston claiming 0 iois. Yet both these guys (and many others) get many matches, convos on apps.

I've tried using tinder around 3 times in my life, I've literally never had a conversation with a woman on there. I had 4 matches in my entire life, and around 14 likes at most.

I don't know what looks rating this treatment would be described as but surely below MTN, like LTN or worse.

Whereas IRL I'm treated way better. I've had women approach a few times at bars in the UK, they were never above weak MTB and I always had high standards so never entertained their approaches.

I made the thread nearly a yr ago now JFL when I kissed a girl for the first time in my life in Hungary. Actually was 3 girls in the same night and one was honestly HTB just about with body halo, and was generally treated like a mogger the entire night, guys coming up yo me, talking to me like I was the main man.

At university on my STEM course, in labs on computer etc, multiple student women teaching assistants hit on me, tried making conversation about my personal life and just giggly in general.

On my course I mogged nearly everyone, though no one was a clear cut htn or above. All of the decent looking girls would smile and stare at me across the room despite me sitting alone and not talking to anyone like a loner. I was blackpilled AF at that point, thought sitting alone didn't matter since looks were the only thing that mattered. So you can imagine how surprised I was when I saw they got normie oofy doofy bfs.

Do I just suck at taking pics? I have 0 pictures of me on my phone, I only used selfies front camera, but even when I tried a mirror pic it just always came out low res, looked shit.

I've seen some study that QOVES showed, it's a scatter plot with how looks are rated in IRL (or video maybe) vs still pics. There's some variation, like there's a guy who's a 6 in motion who's a 3.5 in still pics. I think that's me NGL

I'm thinking of buying a DSRL or mirrorless camera to properly assess my face, cuz I just don't get it
if your mtn don't bother with dating apps irl will always be better
 
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if your mtn don't bother with dating apps irl will always be better
apparantly im mtn and tinder is my only socializing app. im used to get praised for my looks there
 
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bump. good thread
 
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Meanwhile I've seen multiple people claiming they get 0 iois IRL e.g that polish or Russian guy who claims to have been rejected 25dates in a row or smth. @russiancelreturns
Also mogger Gaston claiming 0 iois. Yet both these guys (and many others) get many matches, convos on apps.

I've tried using tinder around 3 times in my life, I've literally never had a conversation with a woman on there. I had 4 matches in my entire life, and around 14 likes at most.

I don't know what looks rating this treatment would be described as but surely below MTN, like LTN or worse.

Whereas IRL I'm treated way better. I've had women approach a few times at bars in the UK, they were never above weak MTB and I always had high standards so never entertained their approaches.

I made the thread nearly a yr ago now JFL when I kissed a girl for the first time in my life in Hungary. Actually was 3 girls in the same night and one was honestly HTB just about with body halo, and was generally treated like a mogger the entire night, guys coming up yo me, talking to me like I was the main man.

At university on my STEM course, in labs on computer etc, multiple student women teaching assistants hit on me, tried making conversation about my personal life and just giggly in general.

On my course I mogged nearly everyone, though no one was a clear cut htn or above. All of the decent looking girls would smile and stare at me across the room despite me sitting alone and not talking to anyone like a loner. I was blackpilled AF at that point, thought sitting alone didn't matter since looks were the only thing that mattered. So you can imagine how surprised I was when I saw they got normie oofy doofy bfs.

Do I just suck at taking pics? I have 0 pictures of me on my phone, I only used selfies front camera, but even when I tried a mirror pic it just always came out low res, looked shit.

I've seen some study that QOVES showed, it's a scatter plot with how looks are rated in IRL (or video maybe) vs still pics. There's some variation, like there's a guy who's a 6 in motion who's a 3.5 in still pics. I think that's me NGL

I'm thinking of buying a DSRL or mirrorless camera to properly assess my face, cuz I just don't get it
whats ur looks on scale?
 
Meanwhile I've seen multiple people claiming they get 0 iois IRL e.g that polish or Russian guy who claims to have been rejected 25dates in a row or smth. @russiancelreturns
Also mogger Gaston claiming 0 iois. Yet both these guys (and many others) get many matches, convos on apps.

I've tried using tinder around 3 times in my life, I've literally never had a conversation with a woman on there. I had 4 matches in my entire life, and around 14 likes at most.

I don't know what looks rating this treatment would be described as but surely below MTN, like LTN or worse.

Whereas IRL I'm treated way better. I've had women approach a few times at bars in the UK, they were never above weak MTB and I always had high standards so never entertained their approaches.

I made the thread nearly a yr ago now JFL when I kissed a girl for the first time in my life in Hungary. Actually was 3 girls in the same night and one was honestly HTB just about with body halo, and was generally treated like a mogger the entire night, guys coming up yo me, talking to me like I was the main man.

At university on my STEM course, in labs on computer etc, multiple student women teaching assistants hit on me, tried making conversation about my personal life and just giggly in general.

On my course I mogged nearly everyone, though no one was a clear cut htn or above. All of the decent looking girls would smile and stare at me across the room despite me sitting alone and not talking to anyone like a loner. I was blackpilled AF at that point, thought sitting alone didn't matter since looks were the only thing that mattered. So you can imagine how surprised I was when I saw they got normie oofy doofy bfs.

Do I just suck at taking pics? I have 0 pictures of me on my phone, I only used selfies front camera, but even when I tried a mirror pic it just always came out low res, looked shit.

I've seen some study that QOVES showed, it's a scatter plot with how looks are rated in IRL (or video maybe) vs still pics. There's some variation, like there's a guy who's a 6 in motion who's a 3.5 in still pics. I think that's me NGL

I'm thinking of buying a DSRL or mirrorless camera to properly assess my face, cuz I just don't get it
Same but reversed. I get so many likes and attention on tinder it's actually insane, girls invite me on dates all the time, but nothing comes out of them. I haven't slayed or kissed any girl off of tinder despite having 2000 matches. It's so weird, apparently you just look good in real life and shit in photos while I'm the opposite. In the end, your probablity of scoring a girl is higher than mine so I would be happy if I were you.
 
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One sentence:

IRL: I compare you to other men I see (a few dozen)
Online: I compare you with other men I see (hundreds, or thousands; Chad uses these apps to get free slays)
 
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One sentence:

IRL: I compare you to other men I see (a few dozen)
Online: I compare you with other men I see (hundreds, or thousands; Chad uses these apps to get free slays)
Yeh I know but I'm mostly taking about how there's often a massive mismatch between online and irl treatment

Many saying their online treatment is way better
 
Your photos probably aren't as good as other mens (unironically) & competition is too strong online. If you have ND looking photos, don't even bother using Tinder. You've got to use niche apps if you have shittier photos.
 
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Your photos probably aren't as good as other mens (unironically) & competition is too strong online. If you have ND looking photos, don't even bother using Tinder. You've got to use niche apps if you have shittier photos.
Which niche apps
 
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Which niche apps
Depends on what your country uses. Maybe use OKCupid or Bumble or something like that. If you're a youngcel you can still use Yubo, but don't even bother with that app if you're an oldcel because it's not really meant for anyone 21+ and it looks creepy if you're on it past that age.
 
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Lol that's not niche
Well, it's not as popular as Tinder is what I meant. I don't really know all the apps that are popular in the UK. On the subways in NYC you'll see a bunch of apps like OKC being advertised but they're less popular than Tinder. The competition is too fierce on Tinder and if you're sub lite or have ND photos it's GG for you.
 
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Well, it's not as popular as Tinder is what I meant. I don't really know all the apps that are popular in the UK. On the subways in NYC you'll see a bunch of apps like OKC being advertised but they're less popular than Tinder. The competition is too fierce on Tinder and if you're sub lite or have ND photos it's GG for you.
I understand

In the UK, bumble and also hinge I think are like equivalent to tinder, probably similar usage %
 
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One sentence:

IRL: I compare you to other men I see (a few dozen)
Online: I compare you with other men I see (hundreds, or thousands; Chad uses these apps to get free slays)
You could also debate:

IRL: just the way you look, unfrauded
Online: can fraud photos, angles, lightning to look better

Etc
 
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Your photos probably aren't as good as other mens (unironically) & competition is too strong online. If you have ND looking photos, don't even bother using Tinder. You've got to use niche apps if you have shittier photos.
I have pics like that and tinder is my only way to socialize. I get comments I remind Somerhalder. IRL im invisible
 

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I have pics like that and tinder is my only way to socialize. I get comments I remind Somerhalder. IRL im invisible
You do look like Somerhalder. I guess Somerhalder halo is too hard for women to ignore on the apps. I don't understand how you'd be invisible irl if you look like that :feelswat:
 
You do look like Somerhalder. I guess Somerhalder halo is too hard for women to ignore on the apps. I don't understand how you'd be invisible irl if you look like that :feelswat:
i met 32 foids within a year and got ghosted every single time after the first date
 
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Yeah i get wayyyyyyy better treatment irl as well. bump. But its like im a 0 on tinder jfl
 
I have pics like that and tinder is my only way to socialize. I get comments I remind Somerhalder. IRL im invisible
fuck, if you are an incel then the next year Goatis will become a blackpiller
You are basically Chad, wtd, femorrhoids aren,t violently murdered enough
 
I had 4 matches in my entire life, and around 14 likes at most.
Honestly not that bad, normies cry about having 0 matches at all.
I would say that's normal MTN results
 
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dating apps are based on pics only though which is pretty much all most women use them for so it's not a surprise that some guys who dont have decent bone structure do bad there tbh
 
women that sit on dating apps have way higher standards than women who are going out and actually looking for someone
 
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