How come modern people developed bonelessness?

[NoReedemingFeature]

Literally every single ancestral skull of any ethnic group has good bone mass

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

bump

 

[Cleetus Cornfield]

Soft foods, lower T

 

[brownmutt42]

 

[FiendFiend]

Literally every single ancestral skull of any ethnic group has good bone mass

meanwhile curries eating vegan goyslop and still have better skull than most westerners i see, just absolutely raped by other bad features

 

[Snicket]

Literally every single ancestral skull of any ethnic group has good bone mass

No, it's mainly genetic - at least between immediate generations.
However, there is a significant environmental factor thanks to diet changes over the course of 10,000 + years though.
Development of agriculture played a big role.
At least, that's my take.

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

meanwhile curries eating vegan goyslop and still have better skull than most westerners i see, just absolutely raped by other bad features

No, it's mainly genetic - at least between immediate generations.
However, there is a significant environmental factor thanks to diet changes over the course of 10,000 + years though.
Development of agriculture played a big role.
At least, that's my take.

I'm not saying it's not genetic.
But it boggles me how literally everyone is boneless when it was always the opposite?

 

[Snicket]

I'm not saying it's not genetic.
But it boggles me how literally everyone is boneless when it was always the opposite?

When was it the opposite, over what time frame are you talking?
10,000 years ago as hunter gatherers I would agree.
2,000 years ago I would not.

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

When was it the opposite, over what time frame are you talking?
10,000 years ago as hunter gatherers I would agree.
2,000 years ago I would not.

Early iron age and earlier

 

[FiendFiend]

I'm not saying it's not genetic.
But it boggles me how literally everyone is boneless when it was always the opposite?

false perception of the past? People were way more leaner mainly due to less seed oil and chemical slop so basically way more men were lower bf %.

 

[Snicket]

Early iron age and earlier

I don't think the inhabitants of Troy were all forward grown chads....
I disagree here.

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

false perception of the past? People were way more leaner mainly due to less seed oil and chemical slop so basically way more men were lower bf %.

Early iron age and earlier

I don't think the inhabitants of Troy were all forward grown chads....
I disagree here.

Alright, I think neolithic skulls all having large bone mass is undeniable

 

[Snicket]

Alright, I think neolithic skulls all having large bone mass is undeniable

I think regardless of what the exact cut-off is, we can agree that it took many thousands of years of dieting changes to change facial structure.

Between immediate generations, development is overwhelmingly genetic .

There's no diet that's going to give you a forward grown face within a single lifetime.

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

I think regardless of what the exact cut-off is, we can agree that it took many thousands of years of dieting changes to change facial structure.

Between immediate generationsm development is overwhelmingly genetic .

There's no diet that's going to give you a forward grown face.

I'm not implying any of that, what I was thinking in the op was the world went through a dysgenic process and I don't know how

 

[Deleted member 114545]

Poor nutrition, cooked foods (they go hand in hand), stale air from indoor living, lack of sunlight, physical inactivity.

 

[Deleted member 114545]

A few generations generations of eating animals raw, head to tail, living outdoors/in open air would physiologically turn us back to how robust we were in paleolithic times.

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

A few generations generations of eating animals raw, head to tail, living outdoors/in open air would physiologically turn us back to how robust we were in paleolithic times.

5+ generations required

 

[Altruist]

Ancient skeleton offers clues on prehistoric diet

German researchers are piecing together the life of a prehistoric woman who died more than 5,000 years ago in the Neolithic period, after her skeleton was found during excavation works for wind turbines.

www.thedailystar.net

change in diet caused by evolutionary success in the form of both increased control of our environment and superior intelligence

not the best explanation in the article, but it's the only link i could find quickly

 

[FiendFiend]

Alright, I think neolithic skulls all having large bone mass is undeniable

cool, it happend over hundreds of years... Theres a difference between saying "people in the past had bigger skulls" when u say that shit people think ur saying in the 50s people did or some shit. Not fucking thousands of years ago. If anything its out of ur control.

This belief that also if u have a couple generation eat raw meat or something u will all have chad children is hilarious. I mog my brother to the astral realm, he has green eyes, i got blue, his hair is more dirty blonde mine is more blonde, doesnt really look like me and is taller than me. Same mom and dad. Genetic recombination and also genetics decide ur fate

 

[Altruist]

^https://www.todaysrdh.com/human-skull-jaw-and-teeth-evolution-looking-beyond-dietary-changes-alone/

 

[Snicket]

A few generations generations of eating animals raw, head to tail, living outdoors/in open air would physiologically turn us back to how robust we were in paleolithic times.

No it wouldn't. It took thousands of years and the advent and proliferation of agriculture to do the opposite.

 

[+10]

meanwhile curries eating vegan goyslop and still have better skull than most westerners i see, just absolutely raped by other bad features

Ehhhh

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

cool, it happend over hundreds of years... Theres a difference between saying "people in the past had bigger skulls" when u say that shit people think ur saying in the 50s people did or some shit. Not fucking thousands of years ago. If anything its out of ur control.

my bad

This belief that also if u have a couple generation eat raw meat or something u will all have chad children is hilarious. I mog my brother to the astral realm, he has green eyes, i got blue, his hair is more dirty blonde mine is more blonde, doesnt really look like me and is taller than me. Same mom and dad. Genetic recombination and also genetics decide ur fate

I believe a proper diet prevents recession, that's it

 

[Deleted member 114545]

No it wouldn't. It took thousands of years and the advent and proliferation of agriculture to do the opposite.

I don't think epigenetics are that long rippling

 

[FiendFiend]

my bad

I believe a proper diet prevents recession, that's it

Agreed. My brother loved sweets when he was younger, i was breast fed more when i was younger. He ended up being recessed, and insane teeth problems, and I dont. Im the younger sibling too, and the older the women has a kid more chances of deformity, and i turned out better with less recessions, although shorter, and higher inhib.

 

[Mosh12]

I am boneless and the ugliest person ever. Everyone here hates me and bullies me and mocks me for being deformed and ethnic.

 

[Snicket]

I don't think epigenetics are that long rippling

It’s at the very least multi generational.
Goatis copers, you know where the door is.

 

[Deleted member 114545]

Goatis copers, you know where the door is.

I think he raises some good points but many of his claims of the impact of the diet are exaggerated/fictitious, not unlike aajonus vonderplanitz, who was an even bigger charlatan. You can't deny the importance of raw and rotten foods though, it's precisely how modern eskimo and siberian hunter gatherers eat.

It’s at the very least multi generational.

Yeah

 

[Snicket]

I think he raises some good points but many of his claims of the impact of the diet are exaggerated/fictitious, not unlike aajonus vonderplanitz, who was an even bigger charlatan. You can't deny the importance of raw and rotten foods though, it's precisely how modern eskimo and siberian hunter gatherers eat.

Yeah

I agree that epigenetics plays a role, probably in a multigenerational context, but not strictly between generations - genetics prevails here.

I think Goatis is scientifically illiterate and doesn't check his own sources properly.

Even in his own cited study with rats, they showed changes in facial structure - if you could call it that - over generations on different diets.