How did your first cycle effect you

[therealdeal877]

Very curious before i pin i hear its a lot like second puberty

 

[Finalkiosk]

Very curious before i pin i hear its a lot like second puberty

it isnt a second puberty

its just easier gains and maybe a bit of free body fat lost if your on tren

 

[Faustum]

it isnt a second puberty

its just easier gains and maybe a bit of free body fat lost if your on tren

For me it was a second puberty.

But that's likely due to me coming from 280ng (Hypogonadal) to 2000ng+

Very curious before i pin i hear its a lot like second puberty

As for his question:

- I experienced crazy libido for first 2-4 weeks. Tempered down after, I've always been a hypersexual but THAT level of libido was something else.
- Rapid "muscle" gain specifically at the start (mostly glycogen and water for now, muscle nuceli will develop in the next months) Most muscle gains I've seen are in my forearms, deltoids (the best muscle to grow), traps, and basically my entire upper body.

This was roughly 9 weeks with NO GYM ^ high body fat, I took MK677 (cope) and that + Estrogen + 3200 calories put me from 170 to 220 in 9 weeks.
- Had bad Injection lumps because I was doing Test E SubQ (JFL) so switched to Test C, lumps are gone
- 2.5 weeks I noticed strength gains which I documented via my PR's. The next day however I had horrible soreness in chest, shoulders, arms, everything, I had shortness of breath as well. And now I'm on Tylenol 500mg since Friday, as it is Sunday now currently. Biceps grew a bit too, first time I've seen actual growth on roids on the 10th. This was likely something called DOMs. It went away.

- First 5 weeks had horrible "Testosterone" bloat, but that wasn't Testosterone, I had no AI and was pushing 440 Estrogen (like 2-3 adult women level)

- I hopped on Aromasin 12.5mg 3x a week, and almost got Estrogen back in range, so upped the dosage and my next blood test should be in healthy range again

- Mental clarity improved drastically + my drive
- You are basically never sore after a workout
- You have the energy of a bull
- My morning erection are very hard (they were gone when I was hypogonadal)
- Confidence increased significantly

This was 15 weeks in, bidelt is 24.5 inches you can see most gains were in the traps and deltoids. But you can also see I carry high BF % ideally you'd start at a lower BF


- If you use a gym, you'll get MORE results FASTER than I did.

But by me not going to the gym, it proves just how beneficial a high androgenic environment within your body is for creating mass, and giving you more masculine build.

 

[TajManzoor]

Very curious before i pin i hear its a lot like second puberty

Just makes you hornier, and give you better gains.

 

[A🇳🇦🇰🇮🇳]

Very curious before i pin i hear its a lot like second puberty

Pin estrogen and see what a second puberty really is

 

[IbalmeHponeMin]

Idk
Mark me as solution

 

[therealdeal877]

Pin estrogen and see what a second puberty really is

Son

 

[Finalkiosk]

For me it was a second puberty.

if you had low dht during puberty it can def be a second puberty, i took hgh var and enclo as my first "cycle", test went up, alongside var's anabolism and collagen synthesis from var and hgh

felt really good, strong, went from 25 dips to 50 dips at 100kg in like 3 days

second "cycle" - technically my first actual cycle, was 420 test 210 tren 210 mast + 6-8iu hgh 6-7x a week

i wouldnt call it a second puberty, i didnt get a crazy beard even tho tren is super androgenic, got stronger, leaner, and bigger in a deficit

i think to experience a second puberty you would need 700mg+ of test without a systemic dht blocker alongside alot of hgh to really experience growing taller and wider everyday

but yea, i could see how some people would experience another puberty of sorts

 

[Faustum]

if you had low dht during puberty it can def be a second puberty, i took hgh var and enclo as my first "cycle", test went up, alongside var's anabolism and collagen synthesis from var and hgh

felt really good, strong, went from 25 dips to 50 dips at 100kg in like 3 days

second "cycle" - technically my first actual cycle, was 420 test 210 tren 210 mast + 6-8iu hgh 6-7x a week

i wouldnt call it a second puberty, i didnt get a crazy beard even tho tren is super androgenic, got stronger, leaner, and bigger in a deficit

i think to experience a second puberty you would need 700mg+ of test without a systemic dht blocker alongside alot of hgh to really experience growing taller and wider everyday

but yea, i could see how some people would experience another puberty of sorts

I had high DHT from all I could tell, at least all the side effects of what high DHT would bring, oily skin, insane acne, good penile development (IYKYK) people often overstate DHT's importance after puberty, Testosterone is the main male hormone, increasing it by 4x-7x will give you meaningful results in all areas.

The puberty thing for me was because I was hypogonadal, I no longer even remembered what it was like to have morning wood, now I have a god damn rock cock every morning. And I went from an Estrogenic manlet build to actually decent size and masculinization of the body.